Law Do you support Zohan Mamdani's call for ban of AR15s?

[Koro_11]

He’s at least trying to stop school shootings. Better than the rapist/p-edo supporting Republicans who seem to be OK with doing nothing about them.

What a bunch of weird gun obsessed freaks the USA has. Number one cause of death in children is gun violence but people who want to ban guns are “crazy”.

So you think someone crazy enough to go shoot up a school, would be deterred from buying a gun on the black market because it’s against the law?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Mexico has only one gun store and it's located in a heavily fortified military base, averaging 30+ gun sales a day to a very rigorous background process.

And they have about 4x the gun homicide rate as the US

two gun stores. and they are attached to texas.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

and they are attached to texas

Canada has more free gun ownership than Mexico and is attached to more of the US and they have a far lower gun homicide rate.

Furthermore you said the issue is intranational gun policy; now you're saying it's international?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Canada has more free gun ownership than Mexico and is attached to more of the US and they have a far lower gun homicide rate.

mexico allows arms in through their border. canada doesn't.

Furthermore you said the issue is intranational gun policy; now you're saying it's international?

it's intranational AND international, depending on context. should the manufacturing, possession, and sale of weapons be outlawed in america, it would also do the same for mexico.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

mexico allows arms in through their border. canada doesn't.

Canada does as well.

it's intranational AND international, depending on context. should the manufacturing, possession, and sale of weapons be outlawed in america, it would also do the same for mexico.

No, the demand would just look for elsewhere to meet the supply. Unless every production company decicde to give it up and current stock dried up

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Well, the shoot on sight is a bit much, lol. But I agree with open carrying that shit. I don't want some gravy seal asshole walking around Walmart with an AR when there are families just trying to shop. That's 100% bullshit and needs to stop.

Civilians who open carry are targets for theft...Tons of vids of that. Also, idiots who publicly post that they have a "truck gun" or what kind gun they keep in their car.
Or people who post pics of their gun collection, dont have the appropriate bolted down heavy safe, then post non stop pictures of them being on vacation and not home.

These are the pro 2A people who give the left legs to stand-on for telling them they are too irresponsible to own certain weapons.

 

[oldshadow]

There are actually other words that come before that. I mean goddamn, the thing is only 27 words long, somehow some people thing only 4 of them matter.

I get it though, since the far right took over the NRA in the 1970s, they only have those last 4 words displayed on their window They want to do their best to obscure what all the words before that actually mean.

EDIT: in addition to those words, there’s historical context that illuminates further what they mean.

Do you understand what they were meant to mean? Do understand what the comma means and why it was there? I dont think so.

 

[Kingz]

Nope and Zohan can go fuck himself.

I hope Trump jobs him out of being mayor

 

[oldshadow]

Democrats screaming more gun control which we already have plenty of but will not support criminal control on the laws we have including gun control laws.

 

[BFoe]

Do you understand what they were meant to mean? Do understand what the comma means and why it was there? I dont think so.

I’m not just talking about the Militia Clause, SCOTUS (and NRA and like-minded people) are wrong about what comes after it too.

The version of the 2A in final handwritten Bill of Rights as passed by Congress had 2 commas. Some state ratified versions of it had 1 comma or no commas at all. Capitalization varied amongst them as well.

 

[oldshadow]

I’m not just talking about the Militia Clause, SCOTUS (and NRA and like-minded people) are wrong about what comes after it too.

The version of the 2A in final handwritten Bill of Rights as passed by Congress had 2 commas. Some state ratified versions of it had 1 comma or no commas at all. Capitalization varied amongst them as well.

This was how it was written and ratified in the original.

"The Second Amendment, as it appears in the original Bill of Rights, reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." This amendment was ratified on December 15, 1791. "

No they are right about what it means. Just because you don't like it doesn't make them wrong.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Canada does as well.

no. no it does not. certainly not in any significant number.

No, the demand would just look for elsewhere to meet the supply. Unless every production company decicde to give it up and current stock dried up

yeah like where? ecuador gonna start supplying 400 million guns? guatemala? mexico has the guns it has because it's attached to the worlds largest arms dealer and its border enforcement agents are in bed with black market arms/drug smugglers.

 

[Err]

no. no it does not. certainly not in any significant number.

yeah like where? ecuador gonna start supplying 400 million guns? guatemala? mexico has the guns it has because it's attached to the worlds largest arms dealer and its border enforcement agents are in bed with black market arms/drug smugglers.

When you say Canada doesn’t allow arms through their border, do you mean intentionally via import? Because they do, in large numbers. There are multiple companies/websites that provide this service. If you’re talking about illegally through smuggling across the border, you’re also wrong. A large portion of gun crime in Canada is committed with weapons smuggled in from the US.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

no. no it does not. certainly not in any significant number.

Cbsa confiscated 60000 guns from 2018-2022

what do you consider significant?

yeah like where? ecuador gonna start supplying 400 million guns? guatemala? mexico has the guns it has because it's attached to the worlds largest arms dealer and its border enforcement agents are in bed with black market arms/drug smugglers.

China for starters.

 

[ricc505]

I used to fish in nyc waters and we couldn't even have a flare gun on the boat. Gun control is already tight in nyc. He's just playing. I didn't see how Nana like this will influence crime

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

When you say Canada doesn’t allow arms through their border, do you mean intentionally via import? Because they do, in large numbers.

historically, no the fuck they don't. over the last decade or two, yes, they've increased their imports by a shitload and to no one's surprise, gun crime has risen like 900%.

There are multiple companies/websites that provide this service. If you’re talking about illegally through smuggling across the border, you’re also wrong.

i'm not gonna sit here and say zero guns get into canada across the border, full stop, but the numbers aren't even comparable on smuggled weapons. hundreds of thousands get smuggled into mexico each year. if hundreds of thousands were getting smuggled into canada each year, they wouldn't be seizing like 2,000 annually.

A large portion of gun crime in Canada is committed with weapons smuggled in from the US.

sure, a large portion of nearly-nonexistent gun crime (historically) that, of course, has begun to skyrocket in response to those imports you mentioned.

keep in mind, even now, our gun crime rate is 600-700% higher than theirs, per capita.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Cbsa confiscated 60000 guns from 2018-2022

what do you consider significant?

just a straight up lie. they literally seized 800-something guns in 2023. weapons =/= firearms.

https://www.canada.ca/en/border-services-agency/news/2023/12/2023-year-in-review-cbsa-welcomed-more-travellers-while-protecting-canadians-from-illegal-guns-and-deadly-drugs.html

China for starters.

you think if guns are illegal in the US, or any other western nation for that matter, people would immediately get the same supply from china? illegally? over the water?

because if it's not replaced by the same supply, then the gun control works.

 

[Yehudim]

Maybe we should also regulate the 1st amendment... how about we make you take a class before posting, and add a 10 day waiting period for new threads?

Can’t kill you with my words, big dog.

 

[Xanzito]

Big brain move. Next:

Should all knives with pointed ends be banned?

Britain’s government is considering it, along with other steps to curb fatal stabbings

www.economist.com

 

[Err]

historically, no the fuck they don't. over the last decade or two, yes, they've increased their imports by a shitload and to no one's surprise, gun crime has risen like 900%.

i'm not gonna sit here and say zero guns get into canada across the border, full stop, but the numbers aren't even comparable on smuggled weapons. hundreds of thousands get smuggled into mexico each year. if hundreds of thousands were getting smuggled into canada each year, they wouldn't be seizing like 2,000 annually.

sure, a large portion of nearly-nonexistent gun crime (historically) that, of course, has begun to skyrocket in response to those imports you mentioned.

keep in mind, even now, our gun crime rate is 600-700% higher than theirs, per capita.

Gun crime hasn’t risen in Canada as a result of legal imports or an increase in licensed gun ownership. You can look up the statistics in some of the larger cities, the majority of guns used in crime are smuggled from the US, up to 90% in some regions, and the crimes are committed by unlicensed individuals.