Do you believe in fate/destiny?

[Takes Two To Tango]

I don't believe in it. If it was true, than that cancels out free will. You either one or the other imo. It's either things happen in destiny or it's free will.

Edit: I changed my thought process on this, fate or destiny is the real deal. lol

 

[TheTickG]

The infinite amount of things that occurred before me, that enabled me to exist when and where I was born, sounds a lot like fate to me. What I do with it afterwards is my own choosing.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

The infinite amount of things that occurred before me, that enabled me to exist when and where I was born, sounds a lot like fate to me. What I do with it afterwards is my own choosing.

Well said man.

 

[Phlog]

To me it is obvious that there is fate. The universe is a block of spacetime as per Einstein.

There is no free will.

We experience the universe as if there is free will.

What we experience is not what is, it's an evolved interpretation of it. There's zero reason to think it would be 1 to 1 representative of reality. It's more likely to be 1 to 1 with the perception of reality that would be most useful.

Mark Anthony in that quote is just describing the limits of the human condition, not the nature of the universe.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

To me it is obvious that there is fate. The universe is a block of spacetime as per Einstein.

There is no free will.

We experience the universe as if there is free will.

What we experience is not what is, it's an evolved interpretation of it. There's zero reason to think it would be 1 to 1 representative of reality. It's more likely to be 1 to 1 with the perception of reality that would be most useful.

Mark Anthony in that quote is just describing the limits of the human condition, not the nature of the universe.

Those are true words. Everything we do is not by our own choice, but influenced in a sense?

 

[Cole train]

Hell no

 

[IanEdwards]

I don't believe in fate/destiny, destiny/fate believes in me

 

[Phlog]

Those are true words. Everything we do is not by our own choice, but influenced in a sense?

In the same way that a wave is influenced by it's fellow waves, the wind and the currents.

We describe the feeling of agency as the making of a choice. The mistake is to think that a choice can actually be made differently.

If one was able to be outside of time and space observing without influencing, rewinding time would appear almost exactly the same as moving from point A to point B.

 

[SirRealKiller]

I think fate and destiny are real.

There are things you don't have control over such as a car broadsiding you out of the blue, that's fate. There are things that will happen because they have to, like someone who wants to be a parent generally are destined to be a parent.

However, people confuse these terms. Fate is something you cannot control, so that's pretty clear, IMO. Destiny is more tricky because I think it can change. If you're a drug addict, you're destined to die young, but you could get sober and that would change. If think destiny only works if everything stays the same going forward, fate happens regardless of what you do. You have agency in destiny but not in fate.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Sure

 

[Sonny Qc]

Only when it lead me to the nearest bar.

 

[Fedorgasm]

Fate/destiny sounds like nonsense, like astrology.

But I do know that free will is a myth, so I guess that means that yes, I have to believe in fate then. Damnit.

 

[Spam On Rye]

Determinism is nonsensical. I blame August Comte.

 

[William Huggins]

After some of the things I've been through it's hard not too....

 

[MDoza]

I don’t believe in free will.

 

[lsa]

@Slobodan mom is known as Destiny other times she goes by Amber

 

[Possum Jenkins]

How can Sherdog have so many neckbeard atheists but so many believers in supernatural shit like fate and destiny?

Religion, fate, destiny, astrology, karma, etc., they all fall in the realm of the supernatural influencing our lives. If you're gonna reject God, man up and reject everything else as well.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

Not sure, and I think it’s above humanity’s pay grade to truly understand. Without a more deeper understanding of what caused everything, and where it leads, everything is debatable.

 

[PeterGriffin]

Grew up as a Roman Catholic (not by choice), threw that fucking nonsense aside when I got confirmed in the eyes of the Catholic church. No, I wasn't a fucking altar boy, and no, I don't know of anyone that Father Fuckhole played hide the staff or get the rod with.

I guess ultimately I believe everything happens for a reason. I may not understand it (all the time), I may not like it (more often than not), and it might very well be because somehow I just played a part in someone else's "reason"... in which case, again, still happened for a reason.

The concept of heaven and hell is also insane. Everyone experiences both, regardless of their successes or failures.

 

[Leonard Haid]

I believe that destiny is an arrogantly superior concept people have which makes themselves, and the human race, seem of greater significance and value than all other biological organisms, which I don't believe we are. We are born, we eat sweet potatoes, and we die. That is our destiny/fate: We all die. In the meantime, we're all just doing our own thing.