Opinion Do people really like Adolf Hitler?

Do you like Adolf Hitler

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Blackened said:
That's what I was trying to say in my first post. Sorry if it came off as inelegant dribble. I just woke up.
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Came off fine, I just needed to add my own spin to it, I suppose.

What we ought to take from World War 2 as an experience, is something that Sun Tzu wrote in the ancient past, that we always ought to build our enemies a bridge to escape across. Leave them an "out" with which they can retreat without losing too much of their face.

In World War II, neither the Allies or the Axis allowed the other an escape route, which led to a total war scenario.

Although we should not forget that Hitler did make numerous peace offers throughout the war.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html

What Churchill had to say about the potential peace offers (to reporters and Stalin):

“Heavens, no. They would accept immediately.”

“We never thought of peace, not even in that year when we were completely isolated and could have made peace without serious detriment to the British Empire, and extensively at your cost. Why should we think of it now, when victory approaches for the three of us?”
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In truth, Hitler never intended for war against Western Europe, he was only concerned with the looming Soviet threat. It was the French and the Brits who made pacts with the Soviets in order to encircle the Germans.
 
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Blackened said:
He argued against this in Mein Kampf. He said (to paraphrase) that morality and humanity of leaders means nothing when the people don't have the will toward self-preservation. When desire of self-preservation and self pride hits a certain low point, morality and humanity will erode along with it. If immoral and inhumane things are done toward self-preservation of the people, morality and humanity will come back when their pride in themselves comes back.

Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose. In Germany we are seeing the antithesis of Hitler today and I think it will prove to be just as bad as it will ultimately lead to an Islamic theocracy far more totalitarian and brutal than Nazi Germany. Time will tell.
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It's hard to argue against that. Principles exist to protect interest, not as something that is to be respected in itself. Having said that, exterminating Jews had nothing to do with protecting Germany's interests. It was an easy way out of a losing battle and by that, I am referring to competing with Jews for the position of power. Hitler realized their subversive tactics, coupled with an unprecedented sense of unity was too much for him to handle.
 
TheGreatA said:
Came off fine, I just needed to add my own spin to it, I suppose.

What we ought to take from World War 2 as an experience, is something that Sun Tzu wrote in the ancient past, that we always ought to build our enemies a bridge to escape across. Leave them an "out" with which they can retreat without losing too much of their face.

In World War II, neither the Allies or the Axis allowed the other an escape route, which led to a total war scenario.

We should not forget that Hitler did make numerous peace offers throughout the war.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html

What Churchill had to say about the potential peace offers:



In truth, Hitler never intended for war against Western Europe, he was only concerned with the looming Soviet threat. It was the French and the Brits who made pacts with the Soviets in order to encircle the Germans.
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Yeah, it's really disgusting. Hitler even called for "elimination of armament" treaties. The removal of usury in Germany really pissed off a lot of the financial elements.
 
Lead said:
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Voted Yes just for the lulz:D
 
One can say one thing for Hitler.

He had the decency to shoot himself when he understood he had betrayed his people. Can't expect Merkel doing any of that, she can't even consider taking responsibility for what she has done to her people.
 
Blackened said:
This is true.

What Trump is planning regarding infrastructure is National Socialism as practiced by the Germans during the Third Reich. But did Obama not have the same plan? Either way, I think it's a clever way to get those that can get out of the welfare system out of the welfare system and help build the country in the process.
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I don't think it's "national socialism" per say. It is just not inconsistent with national socialism or any other kind of industrial policy of a far right party.

As far as being a good idea, I think it's one of the best bangs for the buck currently if you are going down the road of federal govt spending. I think it should have been done when the great R started as opposed to a time when we may be hitting the peak of the next recovery.

So I would prefer Trump hold back, wait to see if we hit a slow down and use those fiscal chips when they will create the most new net jobs. That is how you the most bang for the fiscal buck.
 
Gandhi said:
I don't think it's "national socialism" per say. It is just not inconsistent with national socialism or any other kind of industrial policy of a far right party.

As far as being a good idea, I think it's one of the best bangs for the buck currently if you are going down the road of federal govt spending. I think it should have been done when the great R started as opposed to a time when we may be hitting the peak of the next recovery.

So I would prefer Trump hold back, wait to see if we hit a slow down and use those fiscal chips when they will create the most new net jobs. That is how you the most bang for the fiscal buck.
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Yeah, I'm not inherently opposed to spending. I've just seen these funds misused so often. I mentioned previously about knowing a guy that sold his food stamps for crack cocaine and his kids had to eat rice at the end of the month.

Even if it's picking up litter or donating time to people in nursing homes I'm not opposed. I don't believe in getting something for nothing. Now if people are unable to work due to a disability, that's different.

But I know many retirees that wish they never would've retired, citing a lack of purpose in their life.

@Gandhi You know, I'd also like to add that I feel like a sense of nationalism and patriotism would help the slackers too. If we took pride in our work, our people, who we are as Americans I think we'd see a lot of these degenerate behaviors dissolved.
 
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Hitler is both a harbinger of truth and a must-defeat tyrant.

What a strange position to be in.
 
Valkosen said:
This should explain the recent phenomenon you speak of:

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That is chronos, an entity married to the truth you already know Mr Valkosen, can you feel it?
 
Hitler was a puppet, and a piece of shit.
The world will never truly forgive Germany for what they have done over the course of history.

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shadow_priest_x said:
It's difficult to find a person who is all good or all bad.

Some things Hitler said were true. It's interesting that today most social peoblems are tied to non-white individuals or coommunities.
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It's [Current Year] Goyim, why aren't you bisexual and polyamorous yet?
 
senri said:
That is chronos, an entity married to the truth you already know Mr Valkosen, can you feel it?
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I felt that you would say this on this day and at this hour, Mr S, that this cosmic penetration of word and space would be NEXt for US. Tick, tock; tick tock, I know not which sky to peer into - that above, or that below...or maybe not for a mortal to know?
 
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