Opinion Do people really like Adolf Hitler?

Do you like Adolf Hitler


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One can say one thing for Hitler.

He had the decency to shoot himself when he understood he had betrayed his people. Can't expect Merkel doing any of that, she can't even consider taking responsibility for what she has done to her people.
You don't think it had anything to do with the Ruskis being on his doorstep? Or his own sense of self righteous narcicism? By that point, they were having troops, many of whom were boys and old men, fight on despite loss already being a foregone conclusion. Not exactly indicative of a man who thought he betrayed these people. I would say it's more accurate to say that he acted like a selfish twat to the end.
 
Why is carrying out the holocaust so incomprehensible?

Did we not place Germans and Japanese people in internment camps here in the States? Remember Bolshevism was started and run by Jews. Now imagine if we were losing the war and couldn't feed our own people and concentrated on them more.

Not trying to justify it, only provide a rationale.
By taking this line of reasoning, you're in league with people like David Irving and David Duke in their denial of genocidal intentions. It follows from this that you are susceptible to people like Leuchter. Am I hitting the mark? Are you still searching for that Prussian Blue?
 
By taking this line of reasoning, you're in league with people like David Irving and David Duke in their denial of genocidal intentions. It follows from this that you are susceptible to people like Leuchter. Am I hitting the mark? Are you still searching for that Prussian Blue?
Oof
 
By taking this line of reasoning, you're in league with people like David Irving and David Duke in their denial of genocidal intentions. It follows from this that you are susceptible to people like Leuchter. Am I hitting the mark? Are you still searching for that Prussian Blue?
I'm saying if we had a socialist economy and we started losing the war and there wasn't enough food for our own people that I doubt the Japanese or Germans in internment camps would've been fed. I don't think it started as genocidal intentions, but they started losing the war, Typhus was spreading, food was scarce etc.

I don't think "guilty by association" is a legitimate defense. Even Netanyahu said Hitler wanted to expel the Jews.

It can be argued from Hitlers writings that he was a Zionist and thought the Jews should have their own nation-state. I think he made like 20 Jewish soldiers "Honorary Aryans", whatever that means.

I just question it because, well... victors write the history. I could very well be wrong, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to make these claims and there is a valid argument for it, whether it's true or not (I don't know).

Take care man.
 
It's like a line of dominoes. First Hitler was just in a bad spot, and then there was no homicidal gas chamber. I remember investigating the supply argument years ago because it's quite plausible. It would account for starvation and disease in the camps. That's all well and good, but it only bolsters the argument that Hitler was a seriously evil motherfucker. The grimmest practical application of Nazi horror imo was the knowledge of human burning gained at Treblinka, used to clean up the corpses at Dresden.
 
I'm saying if we had a socialist economy and we started losing the war and there wasn't enough food for our own people that I doubt the Japanese or Germans in internment camps would've been fed. I don't think it started as genocidal intentions, but they started losing the war, Typhus was spreading, food was scarce etc.

I don't think "guilty by association" is a legitimate defense. Even Netanyahu said Hitler wanted to expel the Jews.

It can be argued from Hitlers writings that he was a Zionist and thought the Jews should have their own nation-state. I think he made like 20 Jewish soldiers "Honorary Aryans", whatever that means.

I just question it because, well... victors write the history. I could very well be wrong, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to make these claims.

Take care man.
Right, supply and disease became a particularly serious problem in the last days. How extra evil then, in light of such an excuse, that the horrors were committed anyway.
 
I'm not surprised that there are people arguing the virtues of Hitler. The excuse making in the WR has reached all-time levels in recent months. Genocidal maniac? Warmonger? Supporter of a racial superiority that wouldn't even include most Europeans?

All can be minimized or overlooked because he acknowledged some elements of basic large scale governance while also not really thinking the economy was that important to Germany's long term health.

We're at the point where people who support a serial killer if just one time he said something that they agree with. Strange times on here.
 
Right, supply and disease became a particularly serious problem in the last days. How extra evil then, in light of such an excuse, that the horrors were committed anyway.
Not disagreeing, it's not an excuse. I'm just saying there is more to it than "he wanted to kill Jews for no reason at all".

I'm really surprised that's such a controversial statement.
 
I'm not surprised that there are people arguing the virtues of Hitler. The excuse making in the WR has reached all-time levels in recent months. Genocidal maniac? Warmonger? Supporter of a racial superiority that wouldn't even include most Europeans?

All can be minimized or overlooked because he acknowledged some elements of basic large scale governance while also not really thinking the economy was that important to Germany's long term health.

We're at the point where people who support a serial killer if just one time he said something that they agree with. Strange times on here.
Who is supporting him? I mean, I'd be a cuck by Hitler's standards.

Again, I'm just saying there is more to it than "he wanted to kill Jews for no reason at all".
 
Not disagreeing, it's not an excuse. I'm just saying there is more to it than "he wanted to kill Jews for no reason at all".
I think you're doing the soft shoe here. Who are your go-to deniers? I'm thinking David Duke and perhaps David Irving, because of the echoes of their words in yours. Let's play our cards, shall we?
 
I think you're doing the soft shoe here. Who are your go-to deniers? I'm thinking David Duke and perhaps David Irving, because of the echoes of their words in yours. Let's play our cards, shall we?
I read David Irving at the recommendation of Christopher Hitchens in this lecture on free speech. Called him the "foremost expert on Nazi Germany" and argues the importance of being able to question these types of things.

Am I denying the holocaust? No. Am I saying there is more to it than "Hitler wanted to gas the Jews for no reason at all", yes.

 
The Nazi's did. And some fringe middle easterners I think. Couple prison gangs and maybe your neighbor too
 
"I'm not saying Hitler was great, i'm just saying he had layers like Shrek."
-the War Room
 
"I'm not saying Hitler was great, i'm just saying he had layers like Shrek."
-the War Room
Do you have an argument you'd like to present or do you merely intend to shut down discussion of people that may disagree with you?
 
Who is supporting him? I mean, I'd be a cuck by Hitler's standards.

Again, I'm just saying there is more to it than "he wanted to kill Jews for no reason at all".

There is more to it than he just wanted to kill Jews for no reason at all. That he wanted to kill Jews should be problematic no matter the reason. That killing anyone was part of the solution should illustrate just how deeply flawed his approach to world issues was.

But that's not really my point. My point is that one cannot separate Hitler's random statements that they like from the overall persona of the man.

Hence my point that we're reaching the point where people will support a serial killer (any serial killer, not just a Hitler-type national level psycho) because they happen to agree with one or two random things they said.

I see it over and over again. People agree with statements without really knowing if they agree with the reasoning that led to those statements. 2 people can both like the same sports team but not for the same reasons. Two political leaders can advocate similar strategies without having similar perspectives on the people they're governing.

But people seem to have completely abandoned any interest in "why" someone advocates a position beyond the most superficial of perspectives.
 
Do you have an argument you'd like to present or do you merely intend to shut down discussion of people that may disagree with you?
Hey man, we are all entitled to enjoy a Hitler thread in our own ways imo
 
There is more to it than he just wanted to kill Jews for no reason at all. That he wanted to kill Jews should be problematic no matter the reason. That killing anyone was part of the solution should illustrate just how deeply flawed his approach to world issues was.

But that's not really my point. My point is that one cannot separate Hitler's random statements that they like from the overall persona of the man.

Hence my point that we're reaching the point where people will support a serial killer (any serial killer, not just a Hitler-type national level psycho) because they happen to agree with one or two random things they said.

I see it over and over again. People agree with statements without really knowing if they agree with the reasoning that led to those statements. 2 people can both like the same sports team but not for the same reasons. Two political leaders can advocate similar strategies without having similar perspectives on the people they're governing.

But people seem to have completely abandoned any interest in "why" someone advocates a position beyond the most superficial of perspectives.
Ah, I'm not saying I like the overall persona based on a few random statements. I'm saying that the situation that lead to the final solution was complicated. That is the essence of my argument.
 
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