Do almost all of the Dagestani fighters have the same style?

TheNinja said:
Honestly...there are a lot of good fighters coming out of that region. But I swear they are all interchangable. They have that same Khabib style where they just grind you down. Almost every single one of them I see relies on cardio and relentless pressure to wear down their opponent.

Am I mistaken on this? Is that kind of how they grow/grew up there? Like in some countries BJJ is a focus, or muay thai, boxing, traditional wrestling, etc. In areas like Dagestan they must all grow up wrestling and working that grinding style.
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they are all mayhem miller knockoffs, no one remembers but he was the first to lock his legs around michael bisping the same way khabib and others do against the fence. it won him the entire first round



ok so not the whole first round but about 2 min
 
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Th3Sav4ge said:
they are all mayhem miller knockoffs, no one remembers but he was the first to lock his legs around michael bisping the same way khabib and others do against the fence. it won him the entire first round



ok so not the whole first round but about 2 min
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That was actually impressive because Bisping was arguably the best scrambler in the UFC at this time.
 
So...if you watch their interviews...

They all started in freestyle wrestling as kids. They typically began training sambo only as teenagers.
 
TheNinja said:
Honestly...there are a lot of good fighters coming out of that region. But I swear they are all interchangable. They have that same Khabib style where they just grind you down. Almost every single one of them I see relies on cardio and relentless pressure to wear down their opponent.

Am I mistaken on this? Is that kind of how they grow/grew up there? Like in some countries BJJ is a focus, or muay thai, boxing, traditional wrestling, etc. In areas like Dagestan they must all grow up wrestling and working that grinding style.
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I have a few friends from the region, Chechen and some from Dagestan. They all have this incredible resilience to never lose. It’s as if losing is a religious sin. I was grappling a guy a few inches shorter than me and expecting a more technique oriented session since I was bigger, but the guy was all out in terms of power, yet careful not to injure me.

One thing I can say for sure is that whole region from Afghanistan to Russia and beyond, the mentality is that you should be able to wrestle off at least two opponents as a kid. My mom used to throw me in with my older brothers and tell me to survive, since “that’s expected”. It’s most likely a mental thing more than anything.
 
TheNinja said:
Honestly...there are a lot of good fighters coming out of that region. But I swear they are all interchangable. They have that same Khabib style where they just grind you down. Almost every single one of them I see relies on cardio and relentless pressure to wear down their opponent.

Am I mistaken on this? Is that kind of how they grow/grew up there? Like in some countries BJJ is a focus, or muay thai, boxing, traditional wrestling, etc. In areas like Dagestan they must all grow up wrestling and working that grinding style.
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Watch Mixed Molly Whopperys documentaries on this subject.

Its split in that country into 2 camps, one is wrestling and one is kung fu based.

Good videos.
 
R Palhares said:
I have a few friends from the region, Chechen and some from Dagestan. They all have this incredible resilience to never lose. It’s as if losing is a religious sin. I was grappling a guy a few inches shorter than me and expecting a more technique oriented session since I was bigger, but the guy was all out in terms of power, yet careful not to injure me.

One thing I can say for sure is that whole region from Afghanistan to Russia and beyond, the mentality is that you should be able to wrestle off at least two opponents as a kid. My mom used to throw me in with my older brothers and tell me to survive, since “that’s expected”. It’s most likely a mental thing more than anything.
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That's a really good point and great insight from people who live there. I get that feeling too as if it is just expected that you be tough as hell and be able to grind/wrestle and never give up or get tired. I feel like people from certain regions are just mentally tough and learn to physically grapple and test each other. In the US we've turned many areas into a bunch of pansies....and instead of fighting/wrestling in some areas people just get a gun and shoot each other now, as if that's the idea of "tough" now.

I feel like as a fighter that would be the worst style to face. Like Khabib's style that just never ever stops and saps your energy. You cannot do anything to get him off you nor do anything to stop him.
 
I 've watched entire cards where every single match was TD Hump & Thump, Rinse Repeat.

Even when the Bottom reversed it was exactly the same...

The skill level was also significantly lower which made it a huge trial to watch...

And Mind I luv pretty much every aspect of the sport.
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
No. Ankalaev and Zabit are strikers. Others like Islam and Khabib are wrestlers.
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...and the striking styles vary too. Some of them are boxing based, but then you TMA/kickboxing-based guys like Zabit and Salikhov.

They train a shitload of different combat sports over there and very good at all of them.
 
TheNinja said:
Honestly...there are a lot of good fighters coming out of that region. But I swear they are all interchangable. They have that same Khabib style where they just grind you down. Almost every single one of them I see relies on cardio and relentless pressure to wear down their opponent.

Am I mistaken on this? Is that kind of how they grow/grew up there? Like in some countries BJJ is a focus, or muay thai, boxing, traditional wrestling, etc. In areas like Dagestan they must all grow up wrestling and working that grinding style.
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StonedLemur said:
Watch Mixed Molly Whopperys documentaries on this subject.

Its split in that country into 2 camps, one is wrestling and one is kung fu based.

Good videos.
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On the grappling based side, it's not just wrestling though. It's Greco, Freestyle, Judo, Sambo, ARB. They train multiple styles and are good at fusing them.

In MMW's videos, he also brings up the fact that the Caucasus were constantly caught between warring empires for a thousand years. The entire culture is based on combat and honor. That's why the "shit on bus" stuff with Khabib was so stupid. Culturally, they don't back down from challenges like that.
 
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