Do Aliens Exist?

I'm sure this thread has been done before, but do you believe aliens exist? With all that whole 7 planets NASA has found and them saying " It's not if we find alien life but when."
I got to admit the whole situation is kind of a trip. I have an uncle who swears up and down that years ago, him and other people seen an actual UFO once. And he's not some kind of compulsive liar, he's actually a pretty honest and normal guy.

I myself am not sure of UFOs but I believe that there is possibly some life somewhere out there in the universe. After all, we can't be all alone can we?

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No, aliens do not exist. You will find unicorns on Earth before you find extra-terrestrial life.

Neil Degrasse Tyson summed it up perfectly. Life on is earth is composed of the most basic commonly found elements in the universe. We are nothing special. So it is safe to assume we are not alone.


But NDT is a fucking jackass. Wow, if only having the same elements meant that life had to exist I might believe this stupid asshole. Dude doesn't even know that arabic-numerals come from hindu indians.

I wonder what his take on Bigfoot and Unicorns is as well. Shit, how about dragons? Maybe we just haven't found their bones yet.
 
No, aliens do not exist. You will find unicorns on Earth before you find extra-terrestrial life.



But NDT is a fucking jackass. Wow, if only having the same elements meant that life had to exist I might believe this stupid asshole. Dude doesn't even know that arabic-numerals come from hindu indians.

I wonder what his take on Bigfoot and Unicorns is as well. Shit, how about dragons? Maybe we just haven't found their bones yet.
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Prove it! Show me one alien life form ever discovered. We will die without someone proving it though...
It's a reasonable assumption to make using statistical analysis. The universe may be infinite or finite. But if complex life is possible at all, which it obviously is because we are here, then it has a probability of over 0% of existing. So, how pronable is it? That's the question. Even if the probability of life existing on any given planet was 0.0000000000000000000001%, the universe would still be full of aliens. You could add many more zeros before that 1 and it would still mean there was tons of life in the universe. Lol at someone who doesn't understand that calling NDGT a moron. Let me guess, creationist?

Also, nobody in the NDGT is a moron thread showed any sources other than Wikipedia proving that those numerals came from India. Wikipedia is a good source for figuring out when Lucky Luciano died and shit like that. But when it comes to more complex historical issues, like the first civilization to discover algebraic numerals, it really isn't the authority. Unless you've read all the sources Wikipedia lists on its page, them you really can't say shit. There is a reason you don't read peer reviewed papers that have Wikipedia cited as a source. And it's for that reason. And even if Tyson got some historical fact wrong, that isn't his field of study. I may incorrectly attribute some economic theory to Thomas Malthus. But that doesn't mean I don't know economics better than some high school drop out who reads Wikipedia.
 
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Well, they could already be here. They might be in some kind of form that doesn't appear to us as a life form.
And we are simply unable to detect their existence yet.
Sort of like if you never head eyes you would be unaware of the existence of color.
Unless you find a technical way to determent there is color. We might simply just missing the "tools" to detect them.
 
It's a reasonable assumption to make using statistical analysis. The universe may be infinite or finite. But if complex life is possible at all, which it obviously is because we are here, then it has a probability of over 0% of existing. So, how pronable is it? That's the question. Even if the probability of life existing on any given planet was 0.0000000000000000000001%, the universe would still be full of aliens. You could add many more zeros before that 1 and it would still mean there was tons of life in the universe. Lol at someone who doesn't understand that calling NDGT a moron. Let me guess, creationist?

1) The universe is not infinite. Sorry. There is no evidence supporting that. The static model is long gone. Get out of the 19th century.

2) It's a reasonable assumption to make using statistical analysis.

Say who? Besides you? The statistic is that only on Earth is there life and there is on one Earth. Sorry reality works like this.

Hey, there are horses and there are animals that fly on Earth...statistically speaking we could have a Pegasus flying around or a unicorn.
 
Even beings with such immense power as are written in comics exists in real life.
 
I believe there are life in other planets that has water land and in a perfect position where water would not boil because of too much heat and wont freeze because of to much cold.
 
1) The universe is not infinite. Sorry. There is no evidence supporting that. The static model is long gone. Get out of the 19th century.

2) It's a reasonable assumption to make using statistical analysis.

Say who? Besides you? The statistic is that only on Earth is there life and there is on one Earth. Sorry reality works like this.

Hey, there are horses and there are animals that fly on Earth...statistically speaking we could have a Pegasus flying around or a unicorn.
You don't know if the universe is infinite or not. If it is, then there is absolutely life other than ours.

It is a reasonable statistical assumption based on the numbers I just showed you. I'm sorry you dropped out of school and can't understand math. Not my fault.

Saying a Pegasus doesn't exist and therefore, life in the universe, other than ours does not, isn't even non-sequitur. It's just retarded on so many levels that there isn't even one logical fallacy that applies. They would have to create new logical fallacies based on the inane reasoning of dumbshit sherdoggers like yourself, for which there is no need because this is obviously not a debate since statistical extrapolation is beyond the realm of thought for which you are capable.

My guess is, if I were to go through your post history, I would find you have a definite agenda and incentive to prove we are the only life in the universe. And I would also guess that agenda is religious.
 
I don't think the president ever knows, that is the genius of keeping a secret like this. That way when the president is asked about U.F.O.'s, and they all are, then he can honestly say I haven't seen or heard a thing about it.
From History Channel alien shows, Nixon drove his Hollywood pal at night to look at some alien body and Bush 1, former CIA director (?), knows. I think they didn't give Clinton any info.
 
Ask this gentleman

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Yes, aliens exist, but not how you think. We live in a simulation with infinite amounts of simulations above us and infinite amounts of simulations below us. There are no other intelligent lifeforms in our simulation.

If there were, you'd see them. One of them would have make their home star flashing disco lights or something just to let others know they're out there. Sort of like a light-tower lets lonely sailors know that there's land and people.

Therefor, our simulation is designed for us to be the only intelligent species in it.

The "aliens" that we encounter are from simulation layers above and below us.
 
I'm sure this thread has been done before, but do you believe aliens exist? With all that whole 7 planets NASA has found and them saying " It's not if we find alien life but when."
I got to admit the whole situation is kind of a trip. I have an uncle who swears up and down that years ago, him and other people seen an actual UFO once. And he's not some kind of compulsive liar, he's actually a pretty honest and normal guy.

I myself am not sure of UFOs but I believe that there is possibly some life somewhere out there in the universe. After all, we can't be all alone can we?

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There is over 100 planets in the universe so of course they must be out there
 
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I posted this in the War Room. You can take a look at it if you like. This post was to establish that the governments of the world have used a tremendous amount of time and money to investigate and even obfuscate the U.F.O. phenomenon.

The topic of U.F.O.'s often elicits a chuckle and a smirk but why should it? There has been government involvement in U.F.O. research since at least the 1940's. If the topic of U.F.O.'s is so truly tin foil or delusional why has every major government in the world engaged in U.F.O. research? Even more vexing, why have they spent a tremendous amount of energy classifying their findings and hiding the results?

If there is no evidence for the U.F.O. phenomenon then why do trained police, pilots, astronauts, presidents, and other notables tell stories of U.F.O. encounters? Beginning in 1947 the U.S. government began an investigation into U.F.O.'s known as Project Sign. This was the same year as the Roswell incident, 1947. The official response to Roswell was that it was a hot air balloon but the study of U.F.O. phenomena was well underway.

After Project Sign it was changed to Project Grudge in February of 1949 and then shortly after that changed again to the more familiar, Project Blue Book. Project Blue Book continued until 1969. The explanations given by Blue Book ranged from swamp gas to the planet Venus but even in the 1960's, prior to the internet, people were not very accepting of Blue Books biased analysis.

In 1966, the House minority leader, who was from the state of Michigan, pushed for Congressional hearings on the U.F.O. phenomenon. His name was Gerald Ford. Ford later became the 38th president of the United States.

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After Ford, president Jimmy Carter claimed to have seen a U.F.O., president Ronald Reagan claimed to have seen a U.F.O. and spoke of U.F.O.'s in front of the United Nations, president Bill Clinton pushed for the declassification of U.F.O. documents, and more recently John Podesta said he wanted to see U.F.O.'s declassified.

What we are establishing here is a long line of government officials that spend time and energy on a phenomenon that elicits chuckles and smirks. Why? Why would the governments of the world waste their time and money on something they feel is not real? Why classify those findings?


In 1999 the country of France released a 90 page report on U.F.O.'s called the Cometa Report. Translated, Cometa means Committee for In-Depth Studies, it was a high level think tank. French Air Force General Denis Letty was quoted in the opening statement of the Cometa Report saying, "The accumulation of well-documented sightings made by credible witnesses forces us to consider from now on all of the hypotheses regarding the origin of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, and the extraterrestrial hypothesis, in particular."

Cometa ultimately concluded that about 5% of the reported cases are inexplicable and the best explanation was the extraterrestrial hypothesis. One such example is on the cover of the Cometa Report, photo below. In 1971 a mapping plane working for the government of Costa Rica took a photo of a disc shaped craft. The plane had a high resolution camera mounted under the fuselage that took a photo every 17 seconds.

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Government involvement in the U.F.O. phenomenon is not even in question anymore. There are declassified documents showing the C.I.A.'s involvement, Canada has declassified documents, Mexico has declassified documents and their military has released U.F.O footage on multiple occasions.

The French Cometa report alone was and is groundbreaking in the sense that it was a panel of military personnel, independent science experts, and the preamble was written by the president of the CNES which is the French equivalent to NASA.

They are telling us that the U.F.O. phenomenon is real and has been happening for a long time and that whatever it is, the "extraterrestrial hypothesis" is firmly on the table. Gordon Cooper, one of the original seven astronauts in the Mercury program said that he believed we were being visited by extraterrestrials.

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In 1985, Cooper addressed the United Nations, excerpt below.

“I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets, which are a little more technically advanced than we are on Earth. I feel that we need to have a top level, coordinated program to scientifically collect and analyze data from all over the Earth concerning any type of encounter, and to determine how best to interfere with these visitors in a friendly fashion. We may first have to show them that we have learned how to resolve our problems by peaceful means rather than warfare, before we are accepted as fully qualified universal team members. Their acceptance will have tremendous possibilities of advancing our world in all areas. Certainly then it would seem that the U.N. has a vested interest in handling the subject quickly and properly. I should point out that I am not an experienced UFO professional researcher – I have not as yet had the privilege of flying a UFO nor of meeting the crew of one. However, I do feel that I am somewhat qualified to discuss them, since I have been into the fringes of the vast areas of which they travel. Also, I did have occasion in 1951 to have two days of observation of many flights of them, of different sizes flying in fighter formation, generally from west to east over Europe. They were at a higher altitude than we could reach with our jet fighters….If the U.N. agrees to pursue this project and lend the credibility to it, perhaps many more well qualified people will agree to step forth and provide help and information.”


– Astronaut Gordon Cooper addressing a U.N. panel discussion on UFOs and ETs in New York, in 1985; Panel was chaired by then U.N. Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim. The above message was given to the U.N. by Astronaut Gordon L. Cooper, one of America’s original seven Mercury Astronauts. Cooper orbited the Earth for a record 34 hour, 22 orbit flight in the spacecraft ‘Faith 7’, in May of 1963. He has been outspoken about the need for an open inquiry into UFOs – based on his own personal experience of sighting UFOs in space and the testimony of other Mercury, Gemini and Apollo Astronauts.

Government involvement and cover up of U.F.O.'s is undeniable at this point. It has taken decades for researchers to gain access to now declassified files and the only thing that remains is why did they hide for so long? Is it because the governments involved want a slow process to ease the citizens of the world into acceptance?

Are we being prepared over time to mentally withstand some future event that is coming?
As odd as it sounds, given what we have found out (or not found out) about the emptiness of our cosmic environment (at least as our technology allows us to perceive it), it seems to me most likely that the first species we would be likely to find is actually an offshoot of ourselves. That doesn't mean it is more likely that our species (or another hominid/species of earth origin) has gone off world in the distant past as opposed to their being other intelligent life somewhere out there, but it does mean, given the vastness of space, that we are probably more likely to encounter a species that originated from earth before we encounter something else.

The above might sound a little over the top, but given we know that evolution is definitely not linear on an upward slant (It is now accepted as quite possible that we aren't even the most intelligent hominid to have existed here, the cranial capacity of neanderthal for example exceeds our own) and that our own species, homo sapien sapien, is basically an unknown commodity pre about 10k years ago in what we were actually doing on this planet (it's almost completely blind guesswork), it's not out of the question to buy into the idea that crazy shit might have transpired 20, 30, 50k years ago that we have zero record of today. Human history, in modern form, is now pushing 200k years...that means, if you take Sumer as the dawn of "civilization", we know in any sort of detail about 5 percent of human history. Translated to, we have no idea about 95 percent of human history on this planet.
 
1) Life existing on other planets is highly probable - The Universe is big and there are lots of planets in the habitable zone orbiting other stars so there may be many planets with alien life.

2) Aliens that have visited Earth is highly unlikely - They would have to travel incredible distances just to get here. Unless they have some type of technology that allows them to travel many light years in a short time period they aren't visiting Earth, they never have and probably never will nor will we visit them. The government is also not covering up the existence of extraterrestrial visitation. If they somehow managed to get here we should be able to see their spaceships with the naked eye assuming they don't have a cloaking device.
 
one of the most depressing things I can possibly think of is the fact that they ARE out there and we will NEVER know about them. The odds of there being 100+ civilizations out there just as smart/smarter than us is like 9999 to 1. The odds of us ever being able to reach them, probably 1000000000 to 1.

Unless quantum computing takes off and really full-throttles our advancement.

Just imagine what they might be like...what they might know....on their planet they may have their own MMA org. Imagine a galactic championship fight between Conor vs some alien.
 
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