Opinion Diversity in hiring - Should we hire based on skin color, sexual preference, disability status - or the content of someone's character?

It's hilarious that you guys think I'm somehow pinned in a corner. I literally answered your questions and you guys ignored mine. If lying is required in order to make you look good in a debate, you already lost the debate.

There's no corner for me to be pinned into. I'm the one against discrimination and you're for it.

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It's hilarious that you've lost the courage to directly reply now. Getting whipped repeatedly with logic and facts has truly done a number on you.

To answer your last question, you pick who seems like the best fit out of the qualified applicants.

Exactly. Concession accepted.

Back on your bike, RoastCan.
 

Background: Patients who are members of minority groups may be more likely than others to consult physicians of the same race or ethnic group, but little is known about the relation between patients' race or ethnic group and the supply of physicians or the likelihood that minority-group physicians will care for poor or black and Hispanic patients.

Methods: We analyzed data on physicians' practice locations and the racial and ethnic makeup and socioeconomic status of communities in California in 1990. We also surveyed 718 primary care physicians from 51 California communities in 1993 to examine the relation between the physicians' race or ethnic group and the characteristics of the patients they served.

Results: Communities with high proportions of black and Hispanic residents were four times as likely as others to have a shortage of physicians, regardless of community income. Black physicians practiced in areas where the percentage of black residents was nearly five times as high, on average, as in areas where other physicians practiced. Hispanic physicians practiced in areas where the percentage of Hispanic residents was twice as high as in areas where other physicians practiced.

After we controlled for the racial and ethnic makeup of the community, black physicians cared for significantly more black patients (absolute difference, 25 percentage points; P < 0.001) and Hispanic physicians for significantly more Hispanic patients (absolute difference, 21 percentage points; P < 0.001) than did other physicians. Black physicians cared for more patients covered by Medicaid (P = 0.001) and Hispanic physicians for more uninsured patients (P = 0.03) than did other physicians.

Conclusions: Black and Hispanic physicians have a unique and important role in caring for poor, black, and Hispanic patients in California. Dismantling affirmative-action programs as is currently proposed, may threaten health care for both poor people and members of minority groups.
 
The half-wit with the slogans who doesn't believe diversity in medical fields is important has gone awfully quiet.

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Do you blame them for not wanting to engage with you? Look at your embarrassing behavior in this thread.

No one wants to engage with the forum retard and this guy takes that was a win of some sort lol
 
Not at all. Posting actual research and logic has quieted everyone down.



And yet the actual forum retard is here engaging with me even after agreeing that I'm correct:



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RoastCan forever.

They're so invested in engaging with you that you have to post shit like this lol. Trust me, there's a reason why I'm the only one stupid enough to engage with you and it's because I'm bored as fuck at work right now.

The half-wit with the slogans has gone awfully quiet.

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You really seem to be high on this idea that doctors need to be taking care of their own ethnicities. Problem is that no job, especially in the medical field, has a perfect ratio of ethnicities when compared to the general population. If 13% of the population is African American but only 5% of doctors are African American, how would you ensure that African Americans are guaranteed an African American doctor without discriminating against other ethnicities?
 
They're so invested in engaging with you that you have to post shit like this lol. Trust me, there's a reason why I'm the only one stupid enough to engage with you and it's because I'm bored as fuck at work right now.

You're definitely stupid, that's not debatable. The only reason you still keep coming back is you have too much pride to let go after getting repeatedly embarrassed. Pride is a sin, lad. Education will help you though. Consider this me doing you a service.

You really seem to be high on this idea that doctors need to be taking care of their own ethnicities. Problem is that no job, especially in the medical field, has a perfect ratio of ethnicities when compared to the general population. If 13% of the population is African American but only 5% of doctors are African American, how would you ensure that African Americans are guaranteed an African American doctor without discriminating against other ethnicities?

Not surprisingly, you missed the part where someone as stupid as you claimed diversity in medicine isn't important.

RoastCan bless.
 
More research for RoastCan and Slogan by the Sea to mull over.


Objective To evaluate the associations between the patient experience as measured by scores on the Press Ganey survey and patient-physician racial/ethnic and gender concordance.

Results In total, 117 589 surveys were evaluated, corresponding to 92 238 unique patients (mean [SD] age, 57.7 [15.6] years; 37 002 men [40.1%]; 75 307 White patients [81.6%]) and 747 unique physicians (mean [SD] age 45.5 [10.6] years; 472 men [63.2%]; 533 White physicians [71.4%]). Compared with racially/ethnically concordant patient-physician dyads, discordance was associated with a lower likelihood of physicians receiving the maximum score (adjusted odds ratio [OR], 0.88; 95% CI, 0.82-0.94; P < .001). Black (adjusted OR, 0.73; 95% CI, 0.68-0.78; P < .001) and Asian (adjusted OR, 0.55; 95% CI, 0.50-0.60; P < .001) patient race were both associated with lower patient experience ratings. Patient-physician gender concordance was not associated with Press Ganey scores (adjusted OR, 1.00; 95% CI, 0.96-1.04; P = .90).

Conclusions and Relevance In this study, higher Press Ganey survey scores were associated with racial/ethnic concordance between patients and their physicians. Efforts to improve physician workforce diversity are imperative. Delivery of health care in a culturally mindful manner between racially/ethnically discordant patient-physician dyads is also essential. Furthermore, Press Ganey scores may differ by a physician’s patient demographic mix; thus, care must be taken when publicly reporting or using Press Ganey scores to evaluate physicians on an individual level.
 
You're definitely stupid, that's not debatable. The only reason you still keep coming back is you have too much pride to let go after getting repeatedly embarrassed. Pride is a sin, lad. Education will help you though. Consider this me doing you a service.



Not surprisingly, you missed the part where someone as stupid as you claimed diversity in medicine isn't important.

RoastCan bless.

Still can't even answer the simplest questions I see. I knew reengaging with you would be completely pointless.
 
Still can't even answer the simplest questions I see. I knew reengaging with you would be completely pointless.

Not surprisingly, RoastCan ignores the research being posted even after agreeing with me:

To answer your last question, you pick who seems like the best fit out of the qualified applicants.

Do you really think you're going to "win" here?

You should have cut your losses ages ago but you're still here just getting embarrassed over and over again.

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The NFL institutes a coach and front Office accelerator program which they need because "70% of the league is comprised of Black and Brown players, only four of the league's 32 head coaches are Black."

Considering the black community has turned out the best nfl players for decades they clearly understand the game and there's no reason they should be such a minority in coaching position. He works for a place that uses the thing he claims they don't. Takedown?
 
The NFL institutes a coach and front Office accelerator program which they need because "70% of the league is comprised of Black and Brown players, only four of the league's 32 head coaches are Black."

Considering the black community has turned out the best nfl players for decades they clearly understand the game and there's no reason they should be such a minority in coaching position. He works for a place that uses the thing he claims they don't. Takedown?
They have to interview a black coach, not sure what your point is here ? He didn’t make the ruleS and is a good coach. You suggestion that players should be coaches so stupid , why isn’t the best nba player MJ a coach? Name the top 10 players of all time and how many of them were head coaches because they knew the game. That’s like saying only mma fighters can be mma coaches
 
You want to go DEI in areas known for racist hiring practices, fine. Just stay away from fields where quality matters. Doctors, Judges, Police, Military, etc. In coporate Americate I see the result of DEI all the time. Usually a woman of color totally overwhelmed from a promotion she was totally unqualified for. Never lasts, and I actually feel bad for them.
 
The NFL institutes a coach and front Office accelerator program which they need because "70% of the league is comprised of Black and Brown players, only four of the league's 32 head coaches are Black."

Considering the black community has turned out the best nfl players for decades they clearly understand the game and there's no reason they should be such a minority in coaching position. He works for a place that uses the thing he claims they don't. Takedown?
Understanding the game is not the same thing as running a team which takes a business accumen that many ex players do not have. Consider many do not even attend classes in colleges they go to on scholarship either. And on that note, do you think Asian and hispanic players are represented enough in the NFL? Is it possible at tryouts some are overlooked in favor of black players who historically have performed better? Maybe the NFL should do DEI for players too?
 
Understanding the game is not the same thing as running a team which takes a business accumen that many ex players do not have. Consider many do not even attend classes in colleges they go to on scholarship either. And on that note, do you think Asian and hispanic players are represented enough in the NFL? Is it possible at tryouts some are overlooked in favor of black players who historically have performed better? Maybe the NFL should do DEI for players too?

Dude, you realize todd bowles left school without a degree and gained his experience as a player and seems to be doing fine isn't he? The ex-players know the business of the game they literally lived it. There is no arcane business knowledge the white coaches possess black folks didn't. You're making up excuses.

Major sports leagues invest major money in spreading the game and player development in international communities to create new market places all the time. That's why the NFL has games in London, NBA in Asia. Successful rugby players are are starting to come try out for the NFL. You are describing a regular practice.
 
Understanding the game is not the same thing as running a team which takes a business accumen that many ex players do not have.

Lmao.

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They have to interview a black coach, not sure what your point is here ? He didn’t make the ruleS and is a good coach. You suggestion that players should be coaches so stupid , why isn’t the best nba player MJ a coach? Name the top 10 players of all time and how many of them were head coaches because they knew the game. That’s like saying only mma fighters can be mma coaches

After retiring as a player MJ become minority owner of a NBA team that performed better under his ownership than previous. You guys are really, really bad at this lol. Every example you bring up blows up in your face.
 
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