difference of muay thai and kick boxing?

[Yodsanan]

Low kicks are not important in Muay Thai ?

Damn I've read some stupid things since I'm on sherdog but this one is the best.

They aren't in high level muay thai. the midkick is much more prevalent.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Cocakillbana]

Low kicks are not important in Muay Thai ?

Damn I've read some stupid things since I'm on sherdog but this one is the best.

Low kicks are mostly feeler strikes in Muay Thai, and unless they show real effect early in a fight they will be abandoned. Only a certain few fighters at a decent level go into fights with the mindset of using low kicks to win. No great fighters put much effort into low kicks.

Watch good Muay Thai and see how often low kicks play a role in the outcomes. Not often. Not important.

 

[aichokyu]

Low kicks are not important in Muay Thai. It's only MMA people who act like they're fundamental and hugely important.

"A low kick is like a jab in Muay Thai." Stuff like that. Not true at all.

I do not agree, they are fundamental, affecting the stance etc. the reason we don't see many in muay thay fights is that fighters are so trained and good at checking them that it is somewhat useless. Put a muay thay fighter that barely throws any lowkick against an oponent who doesn't check them and all of a sudden he will become a low kick maniac. (easy damage to the oponent)

 

[frandie2b]

They aren't in high level muay thai. the midkick is much more prevalent.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah of course Mr. Nakmuay.

Apparently you don't understand the difference between "prevalent" and "important".

In your opinion why don't you see a ton of leg kicks in high level muay thai? Because the Muay thai stance is partially made to defend the low kicks. They are important, they influnced the muay thai stance and style.

Why don't you see guys with boxing stance in Muay Thai (50/50 in the front/back leg and with lateral movement) ? Because they would eat a ton of low kicks.

 

[Kanka]

Low kicks are not important in Muay Thai ?

Damn I've read some stupid things since I'm on sherdog but this one is the best.

Well it's true in a way, because they're usually not what score points and wins you fights unless you get a low kick KO. Thai fighters usually only throw low kicks in early rounds and more restrictively in later rounds.

 

[Kanka]

Yeah of course Mr. Nakmuay.

Apparently you don't understand the difference between "prevalent" and "important".

In your opinion why don't you see a ton of leg kicks in high level muay thai? Because the Muay thai stance is partially made to defend the low kicks. They are important, they influnced the muay thai stance and style.

Why don't you see guys with boxing stance in Muay Thai (50/50 in the front/back leg and with lateral movement) ? Because they would eat a ton of low kicks.

There are some low kick specialists like pornsaneh that use alot of low kicks but most elite fighters don't, and train body kicks and knees more than they train low kicks.

Not all fighters have a tall squared stance. Watch some Sangmanee fights for example.

 

[Kanka]

I would say the biggest difference is the clinch and the emphasis on knees, elbows, body kicks and balance, as opposed to emphasis on punches and agressiveness in kickboxing.

 

[AbeRudder]

Dunno about low kicks not being important in muay thai.....They are secondary to body kicks in the scoring but they are a very available weapon in mirrored stance match ups, we recently saw sangmanee get eaten up by thanonchai's low kicks. I do think people that don't watch stadium muay thai overemphasise their importance though. Tbh I think if they were scored as well as body kicks I think they would be more prevalent

 

[FokaiMuayThai]

Speaking on the topic,

Muay Thai allows elbows and an extended clinch, which is usually broken up after much longer than kickboxing which allows opponents time to actually be effective and damage eachother.

Punches and Lowkicks are not effective point scorers in Muay Thai because they are low to non-scoring and lowkicks easily checked due to the pace of the fight. The high point scorers are high kicks and knees to the body, even if a kick lands on your arm it is considered a score for the opponent. The degree of scoring is based on how much of an effect the strike has on your balance.

International kickboxing (k-1, glory, superkombat, it's showtime etc) does not allow elbows, or extended clinches. Whether using one or two hands is allowed, or the duration of the clinch depends on the organization, but it is usually a few seconds, also depends heavily on the referee. Modern day K-1 does not allow clinch at all apparently (As we've excessively been reminded of in the recent Keaw vs. Bulaid fight).

Punches and lowkicks are important point scorers in international kickboxing as body kicks can't score unless they hit the bare midsection, kicking the arms is considered a block, not a score, so a more reliable score would be the lowkick. The pace of the fights and the push for staying busy/action makes it so less lowkicks are checked, or checking is often neglected in favor of returning fire, because most fighters are looking for the KO.

American kickboxing/full contact karate= Only above the waist, often foam foot protectors and long pants are worn. I don't know much past this. Developed completely separately from K-1/International kickboxing.

So basically Muay Thai is it's own thing when it comes to scoring, like tae kwon do. International kickboxing is scored more western boxing based.

I think western audiences will understand and appreciate international style kickboxing much more than they would Muay Thai, though Muay Thai allows the more devastating weapons and is arguably the more dangerous sport.

 

[ThaiClinch]

Low kicks are not important in Muay Thai ?

Damn I've read some stupid things since I'm on sherdog but this one is the best.

He is talking Muay Thai, not the hybrid between boxing and karate you see in MMA you dumbfuck.

 

[nakmuayw]

Low kicks are not important in Muay Thai ?

Damn I've read some stupid things since I'm on sherdog but this one is the best.

I know that you think he's being stupid, but so many of us know the point he's making. You basically don't know shit about Muay Thai.

 

[DastardlyMass]

Low kicks are not important in Muay Thai ?

Damn I've read some stupid things since I'm on sherdog but this one is the best.

Lol! He is talking about the scoring in muaythai as well as how often they are used. The low kick is not highly regarded in Thailand and the fighters use many more body kicks than leg kicks. Low kicks will not win you a fight on the score cards in Thailand.

Most of the things you hear said about muaythai in the mma world are not actually true of the real sport in thailand

 

[Snubnoze707]

What century was this thread made in?

In Muay Thai they wear shorts, in Kickboxing they wear pants.

 

[frandie2b]

I know that you think he's being stupid, but so many of us know the point he's making. You basically don't know shit about Muay Thai.

See my post after that, and then ask yourself if you "know shit" about muay thai.

 

[frandie2b]

He is talking Muay Thai, not the hybrid between boxing and karate you see in MMA you dumbfuck.

Ok Muay Thai genius.

Apparently you don't understand the gap there is between "not important" and "prevalent".

Please explain me how low kicks are not important in Muay Thai.

 

[ThaiClinch]

Ok Muay Thai genius.

Apparently you don't understand the gap there is between "not important" and "prevalent".

Please explain me how low kicks are not important in Muay Thai.

It's both, non prevalent or whatever the fuck you wanna call and non important as well.

It's easily checked by any seasoned guy, so yeah not too important to have something that is easily nullified. There are many other stuff that are more important because they are more useful in Muay Thai.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Low Kicks are only important when Thai's fight foreigners that suck at checking. If you watch actual Muay Thai in Thailand, they aren't the biggest aspect of the game like MMA guys tend to believe.

Low Kicks are a bigger part of the game in Kickboxing than Muay Thai.

 

[crazybull]

Power!!!!!
I prefer Thai rules,kickboxing rules are confused as different associations complicate things.
Muay Thai is universal. (except where elbows are banned or restricted)

 

[crazybull]

Low Kicks are only important when Thai's fight foreigners that suck at checking. If you watch actual Muay Thai in Thailand, they aren't the biggest aspect of the game like MMA guys tend to believe.

Low Kicks are a bigger part of the game in Kickboxing than Muay Thai.

Unless you are Pornsanae.

 

[Frode Falch]

Yes bodykicks and knees are the bread and butter for most high level thai fighters. But its both ignorant and silly to claim that the lowkicks are not a important part of muay thai.