International Did COVID come from a Lab in China? US Energy Dept asserts it was a lab leak [megathread]

That's what I was thinking

Occasionally razor would be that the communists were playing with viruses with communists safety standards and fucked up

Complete incompetence seems much more likely to me than some grand conspiracy
Except this has been the greatest boon to China helping their rise.

Factor that in

as well as them getting rid of their greatest threat in a foreign leader they’ve ever seen in Donald Trump.

the tariffs would have imploded their economy and they were saying they would consider any boycotts an act of war
 
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China blocking international researchers from coming to China should have been considered an egregious international incident. There is a once in a lifetime global pandemic breakout, and international researchers are blocked from studying the origins? That's fucking retarded.
 
Except this has been the greatest boon to China helping their rise.

Factor that in

as well as them getting rid of their greatest threat in a foreign leader they’ve ever seen in Donald Trump.

the tariffs would have imploded their economy and they were saying they would consider any boycotts an act of war

Far as I can tell trumps tariffs didn't do shit

And other than talk a good game he did jack and shit about China. He didn't order our economy to decouple from theirs. Didn't stop them from buying property in our country going to school in our country and cut taxes for the very mega corps that profit from using China for labor

He also pulled out of the who and allowed china's power and influence to grow. And alienated our allies we need to work with to contain China

I get it dude the democrats suck ...but Trump did anything worth a fuck as president is a fantasy. It was all talk.
 
Yay, they're taking the highly plausible into consideration! Celebrate!

That it takes a statement by some Poindexter in order for some to consider the virus leak theory possible says a lot about the state of critical thinking on this site and in general. Some people are just begging to be lied to. Sad.
 
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Far as I can tell trumps tariffs didn't do shit

And other than talk a good game he did jack and shit about China. He didn't order our economy to decouple from theirs. Didn't stop them from buying property in our country going to school in our country and cut taxes for the very mega corps that profit from using China for labor

He also pulled out of the who and allowed china's power and influence to grow. And alienated our allies we need to work with to contain China

I get it dude the democrats suck ...but Trump did anything worth a fuck as president is a fantasy. It was all talk.
He was trying. He was the only president in my lifetime who actually tried, and then he got undercut with all the fake democrat attacks.
 
It took you one post to go from "he was imploding their economy" to "at least he tried"
He did try, and the tariffs would have imploded their economy. The planned boycotts would have basically destroyed it.

he’s the only president to actually try to get it done, but our globalist establishment is allied with China.

our Democratic Party and their globalist establishment need to be overthrown by the Native American people to save this country.

they can be shipped to China. One way tickets.

Notice they still have our Capitol under indefinite military occupation. They are the fascist state
 
He categorically stated to Rand Paul that the US has never funded gain of function experiments at the Wuhan Inst. of Virology. The US did provide some funding to the Wuhan Inst. of Virology.

And we have to believe Fauci, the same guy saying from the start this was not man made virus
 
And we have to believe Fauci, the same guy saying from the start this was not man made virus
I tend to believe him on this because it would be very easy to find out if the US did support G.o.F research. So I don't think he would lie, as it would be easy to expose the lie.

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The Wall Street Journal is reporting that 3 Wuhan Inst. of Virology researchers required hospital care in Nov. 2019

Intelligence on Sick Staff at Wuhan Lab Fuels Debate On Covid-19 Origin

Report says researchers went to hospital in November 2019, shortly before confirmed outbreak; Adds to calls for probe of whether virus escaped lab

http://web.archive.org/web/20210523...b-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228

The details of the reporting go beyond a State Department fact sheet, issued during the final days of the Trump administration, which said that several researchers at the lab, a center for the study of coronaviruses and other pathogens, became sick in autumn 2019 “with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illness.”
 
To start, it was a conspiracy at first to suggest that human to human transmission was possible back in late 2019 when China started locking down dozens of millions of people. If you remember, the MSM spent most of late 2019 telling people that there was nothing to see in China, and that this was all basically a flu. Trump was called a racist by everyone (including Biden) for restricting travel from China. Pelosi said that people should go party in Chinatown. Then this thing spread and the MSM did a complete 180. So, the first month or so, people like me were called conspiracy theorists for telling people that this thing was coming and that it was a big deal.

Once the MSM and Dem politicians changed their tune, it became a conspiracy to suggest that China and the WHO were hiding their true numbers. There was a lot of race baiting at this time to stop people from questioning China's intentions. Then it was a conspiracy to suggest that China was jailing and killing their own citizens for speaking out about the virus. Then it was a conspiracy to suggest that this wasn't the result of one person eating a bat in a wet market. Then it was a conspiracy to suggest that Chinese spies had been smuggling coronavirus samples from the US/Canada. Then it was a conspiracy to suggest that the Wuhan lab may be responsible, and that the lab had been moved from it original spot on Google maps.

There's more (Cuomo sticking sick people in nursing homes and needlessly killing elderly people, masks being helpful, etc), but that's a short timeline from the top of my head. The MSM has been wrong about this virus since the beginning and any dissent from the official narrative has been labeled as dangerous conspiracy theories. Countless people have been kicked off tech platforms for reporting things that were proven to be true a couple months later. Then the MSM just gaslights and pretends like they knew these things were true all along.
So how many proven conspiracies would that be?
0?
 
Almost none of them are true, and this one hasn't yet been established to be true. The preponderance of evidence remains on the side of the assumption of a natural origin (from Wuhan China).

The fact this is your takeaway is a perfect demonstration of the continuing struggle that exists in the States with scientific ignorance that the EU has managed to transcend over the past 50 years.

Evidence from the WHO? They are on the the take from the chinese. Common sense, Occam's Razor, and fuckhead fauci/NIH pouring millions of tax payer money into this specific virus should be a dead giveaway this was made in a lab.

Fauci said this was going to happen in 2017. If it comes to light that he and the others who hate Trump made this virus and unleashed it on the world for political gain, they should be treated the way we treat all terrorists. Without any mercy.
 
Trump right once again. the conglomeration of the left's mental illness caused them to hallucinate so much over the last four years. We could have seen some of the best growth in they country's history if they just stopped crying and resisting
 
Let's see, the virus originated in the very area where they have a virus factory, where virus' are developed and studied.

This is like the most obvious, slow reveal ever.

"Bu-but, we'll never know."

We already know. They know. Everybody knows. If you think it's just one big coincidence that the virus originated where they run experiments and tests on all sorts of wacky new viruses, and that it's still possible that it came from bat soup, you're a fucking idiot. Plain and simple. It's like there's a dead body with a bullet hole in it, a smoking gun five feet away from the corpse, and some idiots are arguing that they can't rule out a poisoning as the cause of death.
Logic is incompatible with modern Dems. we should all know this by now.
 
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