Did Conor Ruin The Sport?

he has brought more eyes to the sport then everybody else combined sooooooooo i am going to say no lol
 
immyaxl said:
The sport peaked years ago. Sure the UFC still makes a lot of money due to the crazy tv contracts they have but no one else is really even a player. I've never been less interested in what the UFC is doing than I am now. I've been around since UFC 1 and when the sport was called no holds barred. I've seen it all.
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Maybe YOU just lost interest, the actual product itself is much better, almost every card I watch these days is exciting, and filled with finishes.
 
Lesnar was worse...but Conor not much help
 
UFC is gearing towards fans who actually pay for PPVs like WWE fans and celebrity followers. Hardcore fans stream it and do not contribute to the UFC.
 
Depends on who you ask for me he did I stopped watching for a while up until the pandemic if he gets this title
Shot I’m back to not watching, there’s also Dana raising ppv prices and cards aren’t as good as they once were the next stacked card won’t happen for a while it used to be every other card imo the peak was 2006-2012
 
It's funny how anytime the UFC showed favoritism to certain fighters, eventually it always blew up in their faces (Conor, Sage, PVZ, Cynthia Calvillo, Ronda, CM Punk). Conor was the worst and still is as far as shitty fans and just being an insecure idiot.
 
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he definitely poisoned the well, the sport wont be the same after him again.
 
Nah he changed the game and brought more eyes to mma. He's the reason why fighters are getting paid more currently with more attention than before. He partially responsible for the new deals and new owners purchasing UFC. All of this came after his popularity and mma got their first real mainstream cross over star. The purchase of UFC, the ESPN deal, etc was piggy backed off the hype generated by Conor's fights. MMA fighters can thank him for a lot of that but probably won't because a lot won't want to admit it, and a lot probably hate that it was Conor that did all that for the sport of mma. But just look at the numbers, and deals made before and after his UFC run. Look at the top PPVs, and look at how fighters fight purses started increasing after Conor's fight purses also increased. Fighters started demanding more money because they knew how much Conor was getting paid.

Conor helped make mma mainstream which benefits all mma fighters.
 
Orochimaru 大蛇丸 said:
Maybe YOU just lost interest, the actual product itself is much better, almost every card I watch these days is exciting, and filled with finishes.
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I took martial arts for years. So as a martial artist and fan MMA was my favorite sport to watch. Had a large group of friends and co-workers that watched every UFC ppv. Not only UFC content but Strikeforce, WEC and Japanese MMA as well. None of them watch anymore. They all say the sport became watered down and none of the belts or fights meant anything anymore as their reasons to quit watching. For the most part it seems The people that seem to enjoy todays product are the ones that started watching when Mcgregor showed up.
 
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First, 'begging the question' is a fallacy and does not mean what you think it does. Use: 'raises the question' instead.

Second, no, Conor did not ruin the sport. His fanboys did!
 
Shamrock vs Ortiz, Hughes vs Gracie, and Randy vs Toney all happened before Conor, I don't think there was any big cange in the attitude towards superfights.
 
immyaxl said:
I took martial arts for years. So as a martial artist and fan MMA was my favorite sport to watch. Had a large group of friends and co-workers that watched every UFC ppv. Not only UFC content but Strikeforce, WEC and Japanese MMA as well. None of them watch anymore. They all say the sport became watered down and none of the belts or fights meant anything anymore as their reasons to quit watching. For the most part it seems The people that seem to enjoy todays product are the ones that started watching when Mcgregor showed up.
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Maybe you and your friends got old and lost interest together. There are tons of good fighters/fights, anyone who likes MMA is still watching. Why don’t the belts mean anything? Which current champs aren’t the best fighters in their weight classes? The matchmaking isn’t that bad, just because you and your friend group lost interest doesn’t mean everyone else did, most OG fans are still watching.
 
1. If the sport is "ruined," why are you creating threads on an mma forum?

2. Dana wasn't reluctant to make Silva-GSP. Dana (and Anderson and the fans) desperately wanted that fight. GSP was the reluctant one.

3. If you think the UFC didn't care about money fights before Conor, you're sorely mistaken. Brock got a title shot with a 2-1 record. The fact of the matter is that the UFC has become big business over the last 10 years or so, thereby making "money fights" possible. And with the sale of the company to WME and the partnership with ESPN, the incentive to create money fights has only increased.
 
I mean the UFC is now partnered and on ESPN, not sure how that constitutes "ruining a sport". The doubt belt champ champ thing is pretty rare: DC, Nunes, Cejudo, and GSP all doing it successfully, and Izzy failing at it. Aside from Conor, none of the other double champs held up the divisions like he did. Nunes defended both belts. Cejudo vacated them, GSP vacated quickly and even DC vacated LHW when he won the HW belt. Nothing really terrible came of any of that.
 
The sport went mainstream and it getting all the issues with a sport becoming mainstream.
 
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