Did Bush have more die overseas than Obama?

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  1. ehtheist

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    During their respective presidencies, who had more American soldiers die under their watch? Who had more civilian casualties in U.S. military operations under their watch? Not just in one conflict, but in total? Are these numbers compiled anywhere? I'd guess Bush was ahead in both categories but I really don't know...
     
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    Bush is way ahead in both but Obama has more than enough blood on his hands.
     
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    Sup, Ehtheist, how was the exam? I hope it wasn't an English exam, 'cause your thread title is wonky.
     
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    Hah, it was an English exam... And final paper... And several papers submitted to professors for a look through for an application... And creative writing samples... And all sorts of stuff. Been taking a break from most everything for the past two weeks or so - and not sure the break is quite done.

    And yes, that title is on the wonky side... I blame my good friend Henkell Trocken. Seeing out the old year in a very merry manner so far.

    And @The Higher Power, that's about what I expected. Are there any compiled figures that you know of? Bush was famously a Warmonger, but Obama has been slipping a lot of conflict under the Radar and I never hear anything about the human costs of these conflicts, so I'm curious to know how they actually compare. Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing figures for Clinton or the previous Bush, too, if they exist.
     
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  5. Bush waged a war using American soldiers, so more Americans did die under him I think.

    Obama and Clinton waged war using jihadis and drones. Less American soldiers died, but all of Europe got taken over by Islam, and more innocents died to drone strikes than guilty parties.

    Bush has taught us to be careful about agreeing to war after a domestic attack, as the war could be about something else.

    Obama has taught us that if you're unwilling to send your own soldiers in, the war is not worth fighting.
     
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    Cheers, I'm also celebrating a milestone of sorts, but I dare say my Fernet is far better than sparkling wine.
     
  7. Most of the world's first language isn't english. Don't be closed minded.
     
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    Obama is an even shittier lefty pacifist than he is a marxist.
     
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    https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/1997/5/8/senate-section/article/S4207-1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...r_in_Afghanistan#Casualties_by_month_and_year

    https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/globecon/maresca.htm
    Note the timeline.
     
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    I'm no Obama fan, but this is misleading. The Surge in Iraq was roughly 2006-2007, while the Surge in Afghanistan was roughly 2010-2012. Afghanistan was an afterthought during the height of the War in Iraq, for better or for worse.
     
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    Did you see obl body?
     
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    as a graduate of college I just want to let you know to tell your professers to go fuck themselves.
     
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    More under Obama.
     
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    How many cops died under Obama vs Bush?
     
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    Nearly 4000 have died under Obama in Chicago.
     
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    5776 murders in Chicago under Reagan
    4269 murders in Chicago under Bush
     
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