Did Bush have more die overseas than Obama?

Either way they're both scum who put foreign intervention over American lives.

They're both shameful presidents.
 
5776 murders in Chicago under Reagan
4269 murders in Chicago under Bush

Over 6000 on Clinton's watch since you decided to skip him.

And Jimmy and the elder Bush had atrocious numbers as well...

I guess it doesn't really matter who's running the country, it has everything to do with who's running the city and state...and these sad fuckers keep on murdering themselves, decade after decade.
 
Bush waged a war using American soldiers, so more Americans did die under him I think.

Obama and Clinton waged war using jihadis and drones. Less American soldiers died, but all of Europe got taken over by Islam, and more innocents died to drone strikes than guilty parties.

Bush has taught us to be careful about agreeing to war after a domestic attack, as the war could be about something else.

Obama has taught us that if you're unwilling to send your own soldiers in, the war is not worth fighting.
Arming and advising jihadis who would later become ISIS (or ISIL) was definitely a very poor strategy for the Obama administration and he still has not learned from that mistake.
 
Arming and advising jihadis who would later become ISIS (or ISIL) was definitely a very poor strategy for the Obama administration and he still has not learned from that mistake.

Well its a complicated situation. Assad is a genocidal maniac, he and the Russians knowingly target civilian centers. A few weeks ago hospitals were targetted in a relentless bombing campaign.

Damned if you do damned if you dont situation. Obama has done a good job of making other countries carry weight and commit ground forces in the fight against Daesh.

A shadowy presence in Syria and Iraq keeps us out of the immediate target with focus on other nations while assisting the ISF and the Kurds.
 
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