Social Diane Feinstein RIP

From my understanding, she was a moderate Democrat that was less progressive than some of her peers. If Newsome gets to appoint someone it will probably be someone more left leaning. I think that is going to be the fall out from this.

I wish her dying in office at age 90 would lead to age limits for public officals, but I don't think we will see that for a long time if ever.
 
Honestly, I think the reaction many in this forum had to the death of Rush Limbaugh should make people reconsider how they actually respond to the death of figures they really didn't like much. The whole idea of decorum and respect at the death of someone is good and fine - but for many it's a really, really empty gestures and is, ultimately, a lie told about someone you strongly disliked, maybe hated, and probably didn't respect. If all you feel for a person is revulsion for a politician who you think contributed to a lot of bad outcomes, the mask was torn off (here) not long ago - wish them down to hell if that's what you really feel. Putting flowers on the grave of a person in public when in private you want to piss on their grave seems... Profoundly disingenuous - and many here have made it clear they're happy to just skip the flowers and start pissing.

Personally, I have trouble giving a genuine message of condolences for anyone who stood tall and voted in favour of things that happened in the last few years. Many of these people are bad, bad people - out of touch elites who will drink champagne in places you were forbidden to go as your life fell apart because of policies they glibly supported buoyed on a fat paycheque and pronounced with political bullshit talking points. Many of these people sat in an ivory tower while you suffered and made it clear they were more interested in politics than your suffering. They fiddled while Rome burned and now I'm going to pretend like I'm sad they're gone?

I'm not going to cheer her going to hell like many did with Limbaugh recently, but I'm not going to pretend like I am sad she's gone. Bye, lady. Not everything you did was bad, but your clinging to power and influence until they day you died says a lot about who you really were. I hope someone who is more human and less a political animal fills your (granted, rather big) shoes after you clung on to power until your dying day, even robbing someone who might have had something to contribute to the political discussion until you literally died. For everyone else, I'll say it again - the mask has been taken off, in this forum, quite clearly. If you don't feel any actual sadness over her death, ask yourself, why do I lie and give condolences? What purpose does it serve? Who are you trying to impress?

Edit: Also, remember, when the most disingenuous actors among us come in here and say "Come on - show some respect!" look at their own conduct when Limbaugh died and ask yourself, are these the people you're trying to impress? What do you think they'll do when certain notorious figures you might support die? Will they be gracious, or will they skip the flowers and just start dancing on the graves? Again, the mask was torn off not long ago. It might be time to consider being honest rather than feigning grief and respect to impress people not worth impressing.
Well said
 
She has an insane number of years spent as a public servant. RIP to her, best wishes to her family and loved ones.
 
Just heard a little while back. Pretty sad. RIP. She was a legend and had a pretty unbelievable career.

She had to survive everything from assassination attempts to Jello Biafra running for SF mayor. Not an easy feat for anyone.
 
Who does Gavin fill the seat with:

Barbara Lee
Katie Porter
Adam Schiff
Someone else

???
 
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nah fuck that, she was a self-important asshole that refused to step aside out of ego. That was true when she was alive, true in death.

Here she is talking down to children about her "plurality" (although I mostly blame the annoying teacher).
 
Honestly, I think the reaction many in this forum had to the death of Rush Limbaugh should make people reconsider how they actually respond to the death of figures they really didn't like much. The whole idea of decorum and respect at the death of someone is good and fine - but for many it's a really, really empty gestures and is, ultimately, a lie told about someone you strongly disliked, maybe hated, and probably didn't respect. If all you feel for a person is revulsion for a politician who you think contributed to a lot of bad outcomes, the mask was torn off (here) not long ago - wish them down to hell if that's what you really feel. Putting flowers on the grave of a person in public when in private you want to piss on their grave seems... Profoundly disingenuous - and many here have made it clear they're happy to just skip the flowers and start pissing.

Personally, I have trouble giving a genuine message of condolences for anyone who stood tall and voted in favour of things that happened in the last few years. Many of these people are bad, bad people - out of touch elites who will drink champagne in places you were forbidden to go as your life fell apart because of policies they glibly supported buoyed on a fat paycheque and pronounced with political bullshit talking points. Many of these people sat in an ivory tower while you suffered and made it clear they were more interested in politics than your suffering. They fiddled while Rome burned and now I'm going to pretend like I'm sad they're gone?

I'm not going to cheer her going to hell like many did with Limbaugh recently, but I'm not going to pretend like I am sad she's gone. Bye, lady. Not everything you did was bad, but your clinging to power and influence until they day you died says a lot about who you really were. I hope someone who is more human and less a political animal fills your (granted, rather big) shoes after you clung on to power until your dying day, even robbing someone who might have had something to contribute to the political discussion until you literally died. For everyone else, I'll say it again - the mask has been taken off, in this forum, quite clearly. If you don't feel any actual sadness over her death, ask yourself, why do I lie and give condolences? What purpose does it serve? Who are you trying to impress?

Edit: Also, remember, when the most disingenuous actors among us come in here and say "Come on - show some respect!" look at their own conduct when Limbaugh died and ask yourself, are these the people you're trying to impress? What do you think they'll do when certain notorious figures you might support die? Will they be gracious, or will they skip the flowers and just start dancing on the graves? Again, the mask was torn off not long ago. It might be time to consider being honest rather than feigning grief and respect to impress people not worth impressing. Some of these disingenuous cunts will turn your own senses of decorum and compassion into weapons against you, and won't offer a whit in return when they have the chance.

Gosh. Sad illustration here of how partisanship rots people's souls.
 
nah fuck that, she was a self-important asshole that refused to step aside out of ego. That was true when she was alive, true in death.

Here she is talking down to children about her "plurality" (although I mostly blame the annoying teacher).

Lol at being rattled by children. That’s hilarious, thanks for sharing.
 
Honestly, I think the reaction many in this forum had to the death of Rush Limbaugh should make people reconsider how they actually respond to the death of figures they really didn't like much. The whole idea of decorum and respect at the death of someone is good and fine - but for many it's a really, really empty gestures and is, ultimately, a lie told about someone you strongly disliked, maybe hated, and probably didn't respect. If all you feel for a person is revulsion for a politician who you think contributed to a lot of bad outcomes, the mask was torn off (here) not long ago - wish them down to hell if that's what you really feel. Putting flowers on the grave of a person in public when in private you want to piss on their grave seems... Profoundly disingenuous - and many here have made it clear they're happy to just skip the flowers and start pissing.

Personally, I have trouble giving a genuine message of condolences for anyone who stood tall and voted in favour of things that happened in the last few years. Many of these people are bad, bad people - out of touch elites who will drink champagne in places you were forbidden to go as your life fell apart because of policies they glibly supported buoyed on a fat paycheque and pronounced with political bullshit talking points. Many of these people sat in an ivory tower while you suffered and made it clear they were more interested in politics than your suffering. They fiddled while Rome burned and now I'm going to pretend like I'm sad they're gone?

I'm not going to cheer her going to hell like many did with Limbaugh recently, but I'm not going to pretend like I am sad she's gone. Bye, lady. Not everything you did was bad, but your clinging to power and influence until they day you died says a lot about who you really were. I hope someone who is more human and less a political animal fills your (granted, rather big) shoes after you clung on to power until your dying day, even robbing someone who might have had something to contribute to the political discussion until you literally died. For everyone else, I'll say it again - the mask has been taken off, in this forum, quite clearly. If you don't feel any actual sadness over her death, ask yourself, why do I lie and give condolences? What purpose does it serve? Who are you trying to impress?

Edit: Also, remember, when the most disingenuous actors among us come in here and say "Come on - show some respect!" look at their own conduct when Limbaugh died and ask yourself, are these the people you're trying to impress? What do you think they'll do when certain notorious figures you might support die? Will they be gracious, or will they skip the flowers and just start dancing on the graves? Again, the mask was torn off not long ago. It might be time to consider being honest rather than feigning grief and respect to impress people not worth impressing. Some of these disingenuous cunts will turn your own senses of decorum and compassion into a weapon against you, and won't offer a whit in return when they have the chance.

You dont need to feel any particular way about her being gone, that's not a requisite of being a human being. But it seems weird to virtue signal using a guy who openly said racist and sexist sh*t that cost himself advertising money, and who himself mocked the deaths of people (AIDS list).

His entire purpose was being a mouthpiece for heinous nonsense that got him harshly criticized even by Republicans. To my knowledge Feinstein was never a symbol of unapologetic bigotry, though you seem to consider her a symbol of the distinction between the ruling/donor class, and the working class (which has some accuracy)...Limbaugh was also that, and a distinctly more purposefully agitating one.
 
Gosh. Sad illustration here of how partisanship rots people's souls.

You dont need to feel any particular way about her being gone, that's not a requisite of being a human being. But it seems weird to virtue signal using a guy who openly said racist and sexist sh*t that cost himself advertising money, and who himself mocked the deaths of people (AIDS list).

His entire purpose was being a mouthpiece for heinous nonsense that got him harshly criticized even by Republicans. To my knowledge Feinstein was never a symbol of unapologetic bigotry, though you seem to consider her a symbol of the distinction between the ruling/donor class, and the working class (which has some accuracy)...Limbaugh was also that, and a distinctly more purposefully agitating one.

You two should have a talk.
 
You dont need to feel any particular way about her being gone, that's not a requisite of being a human being. But it seems weird to virtue signal using a guy who openly said racist and sexist sh*t that cost himself advertising money, and who himself mocked the deaths of people (AIDS list).

His entire purpose was being a mouthpiece for heinous nonsense that got him harshly criticized even by Republicans. To my knowledge Feinstein was never a symbol of unapologetic bigotry, though you seem to consider her a symbol of the distinction between the ruling/donor class, and the working class (which has some accuracy)...Limbaugh was also that, and a distinctly more purposefully agitating one.


We can skip to the part where its not wrong when a liberal does it.
 
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