The 7-keto DHEA is good shit, definitely. Standard DHEA I've been taking myself for about a month now, I notice some differences but it can't and should never be considered an "anabolic performance enhancer"...it has very mild affects on boosting Test, not even enough I think to even be detected in a standard steroid test. But for the price, I think it's worth it to have in your regimen beyond the age of 25.