Developed a new kick...

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by I-Shoji, Aug 12, 2005.

  1. I-Shoji Green Belt

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    Sparring with a partner who is a pretty accomplished striker I have come across a new kick.

    A good striker can often see a roundkick to the legs or body coming fairly well and step back just out of range for the kick to whiff. Whiffing with a properly executed round kick results in turning a full 360 and exposing yourself to a counter. Bas did this a lot in his pancrase fights, jumping back just enough for the kick to whiff and counter with a kick to the legs...

    So taking that into consideration you can bring the leg up and around just like you are throwing a roundkick to the body, but at the point your leg stretches out completely with the foot turned sideways piston your hip out a bit and into the target. The heel plows into the target, and you can aim for the solar plexus or the spleen/liver.

    I practiced this kick against my partner and he said it comes out looking identical to a roundkick, but hits more like a front kick without being so telegraphed. you can really plow into someone with this kick with a lot of power, and unlike the bullshit TKD or Karate style sidekick you really don't run the risk of having the kick jammed by the oponent moving into it cuz if he does you simply catch him with a round kick. Plus now I can actually somewhat adjust a roundkick to land with the heel-plow effect if they back away from the range of my round-kicks...

    especially if I throw a few roundkicks and he backs away from them, and then I throw one of these.

    Try it out and give me some feedback. Wish I could make a video of it.
     
  2. TheHighlander Green Belt

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    Basically a round kick into a side kick without chambering?
     
  3. Gregster Black Belt

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    What you describe sounds like a rear-leg sidekick.
     
  4. I-Shoji Green Belt

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    Yes.
     
  5. I-Shoji Green Belt

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    No not really. Rear-leg sidekick still 'cocks' the leg which makes the kick telegraphed and easy to jam.
     
  6. CTEGod Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Do this all the time. My sidekicks don't chamber, either.
     
  7. Gregster Black Belt

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    Yeah, this is true. And still some guys are dumb enough to try and tag someone in front of them with a rear-leg sidekick because they learned to throw it that way when learning the kick.

    A front-leg sidekick (thrown half-cocked into an opponent who is closing) or thrown to the side at someone trying to flank you works fairly well.
     
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    These hurt. My first time sparring with a TKD guy he eventually hit me with one of these in the ribs as I came at him and cleanly knocked the wind out of me.
     
  9. Gregster Black Belt

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    Oh, yeah. You can knock the wind out of someone, or put a guy flat on his back faster than a $2 ho with a front-leg sidekick (padda-chuggi(sp?) if you time it just right. Very effective for both creating distance as well as making an opponent think twice about closing it.
     
  10. kumite Orange Belt

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    Dude, i hate to tell you this, but you are just throwing a sidekick with a roundkick as a feint. nothing extra special.
     
  11. I dont think you made it up.
     
  12. Evil Eye Gouger Gold Belt

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    It's called a rising side kick and has been in various Karate styles since the dawn of time. A TKD guy would call it a leg swing and use it for warmup.
     
  13. Kyryllo Kia kaha e hine!

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    Well, nothing new or special, but you should enjoy your new technique anyway.
     
  14. I-Shoji Green Belt

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    Hum, well I'm merely stating that the technique is new to me and it works well.

    Obviously I'm not claiming that it's never been done before, but I do hold belts in Karate and Kung-Fu styles and have about 20 years of martial arts experience as well as plenty of time in sparring with competent strikers from Mikey Burnett's Lion's Den..

    It's different in a few subtle and important ways then any technique I've come across so far.

    Oh, and noone has ever thrown anything like it in any K-1 event I've seen. So there is that too :p
     
  15. tokian Orange Belt

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    Good post.
     
  16. TwIsTeD&BrOkEn With These Hands I Control The Fate of Millions

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    Kaoklai does it.
     
  17. boooya777 Guest

    the side kick with out the chamber basicially. wow......must try this move out in sparing next week.
     

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