Deron Winn has a tall task against him tomorrow night

chinarice said:
His legs are bigger than numerous 145'ers..... He is not a 145'er. That boy probably isn't getting lower than 165.
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Nonsense. He's no "thicker" in terms of frame and muscle than Volkanovski. He is very soft and sorry looking at 185.
 
As a fellow manlet I have to admire the guts but I think might be some psychological thing like him wanting to prove he can hang with the bigger fighters like his mentor DC.
He really should be a WW his striking isn't even all that bad in all honesty, some of the strikes he landed on Meerschaert could of knocked out some of the less decent WW for sure.
 
I hope Deron winn wins. He did not look fat at all. he just thick. he look healthier than most hws in my opinion.
 
mudrubble said:
I've fought taller guys and won so why can't he?

Back in the day before I knew what jobs were I’d hang out A LOT. Exclusively, I’d say. Sometimes in plain view, but sometimes more lurking in the shadows. Life was about warfare. Combat. Of the hand to hand variety. I looked the part and I played it better than DeNiro.

I’d rock a soldier’s hat and army boots, at all times. Sometimes I’d also have other clothing on, sometimes not. But I always had a cocky attitude about me. I was a bit of a legend in my own mind. Save your jokes about sparse clothing and cocks for some other mark. I was quick to snap, and snap got to breaking even faster.

This one guy drove past me in his fancy car – I think it was a Toyota. When you ride a stolen kid’s bike a Toyota is a fancy car. I let him go about his way, no problems. I wasn’t a complete and utter asshole yet at this point in my life. But I saw, plain as day, he went up the street and made a U-turn. I started thinking he was coming back for me. Yeah, it must be that. There’s no defense like a good offense I always say. So I stepped into the middle of the street to test his guts. Game of chicken – flesh vs metal. Odds against me but my warrior spirit was strong and unflinching. I had a saying “I don’t back down to vehicles” at that point in my life. I’ve since adjusted that philosophy a tad.

Dude drives up to me and stops. The arrogance. Just stops. Dead in the middle of the street like some kind of shmuck. I was still foggy from last night’s moonshine and beer (as well as from this morning’s moonshine. And beer) so I was trying to piece together what he could have meant by this display. He was no further than spitting distance from me honking his horn and talking about “get out of the street” and stuff. Why was he so close? Did he intend to spit on me?

I wasn’t going to give him time to decide (I had another saying at that point in my life – “fuck your decisions”). I launched into decisive action. I threw a rock through his front windshield and it hit him in the chest. While he was realizing what was happening I ran around and sliced his front driver’s side tire. I punched my hand through the driver door window and grabbed hold of his throat. Funny thing is he was just talking tough about getting out of the street and am I crazy and stuff but now he couldn’t talk at all! He was just making gurgling sounds.

So he hits the gas and damn near tore my arm open on the broken glass as he sped off, a little unsteady from the flat tire. I had to let go. But now I’m in the middle of the street alone looking like a goof to onlookers. I hate looking like a goof. I need to hit something. So I run to the sidewalk and hit the first guy I see – older gentleman. Seemed like a nice guy. In any other circumstance we’d be friends but embarrassed warriors don’t make good friends so I wasn’t in the mood at all. I clocked him with the overhand right. Just naked. The punch. Well… me too but I’m talking about the punch.

It only seemed to daze him slightly. I wasn’t a hard hitter but I threw a lot of punches. So I tried to follow up with a head kick. Admittedly, I wasn’t the most flexible warrior out there and I kind of fell off balance and landed on my butt. I felt queasy. Like the beer sloshing around in my belly was gonna come up. So I faced dude and let him have it. Right in his face. I used to call it The Fountain of Life because I found that after a good upchuck I could always drink more. So I let him have it. This pussy was so shocked he literally stumbled over his words…. “what the fucks” and “you’re fucking crazy” and all that stuff – the usual. So I took that time to teep kick him in the belly, this time successfully. He flew back against a store window.

I saw my opportunity. I leapt toward him, raising my hand for a flying hammer fist of death, but the old guy was quicker than I expected, even with his vision impaired by The Fountain of Life. He stepped to the side, and I flew through the storefront, landing on broken glass in the middle of the local café. Embarrassed because I literally lived 2 doors down and these guys knew me well. I’d promised not to beg on their premises earlier that year. And I kept my word – I wasn’t here to beg.

I got up and declared war. Arm and body bleeding, belly bubbling, with a warrior look on my face, I stood there and challenged every man, woman, and child in that café to a battle royal. Two cowards jumped up and grabbed my two arms while a third put me in a headlock. A HEADLOCK! I thought I was old school, lol…. a headlock! What was so funny to me hours later was that I could scarcely believe it was me doing all these things - that’s not who I am! I’m a man of peace! But I had forgotten the way. Only temporarily, yes, but long enough to do some serious damage. To my already failing reputation especially.

Anyway, the guys at the café now leave my offerings outside the door (cookies, a mini-muffin and, if I’m willing to wait, a warm coffee) and tell me not to enter the place ever again, although they will continue to feed me “out of the goodwill of their hearts”. Give me a break. Eyeroll. The embarrassment lives on but I have the personal victory of knowing that these guys respect my willingness to throw down, even against unbeatable odds. Whenever I remind them they say “yeah yeah, we know – you’re a warrior” and in a strange way that’s enough for me. I guess age does really bring humbleness.
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Foking amazing post
 
Can the mods please delete this thread. I actually feel bad making fun of someone suffering from dwarfism and obesity who still managed to become a "UFC veteran".
 
mudrubble said:
I've fought taller guys and won so why can't he?

Back in the day before I knew what jobs were I’d hang out A LOT. Exclusively, I’d say. Sometimes in plain view, but sometimes more lurking in the shadows. Life was about warfare. Combat. Of the hand to hand variety. I looked the part and I played it better than DeNiro.

I’d rock a soldier’s hat and army boots, at all times. Sometimes I’d also have other clothing on, sometimes not. But I always had a cocky attitude about me. I was a bit of a legend in my own mind. Save your jokes about sparse clothing and cocks for some other mark. I was quick to snap, and snap got to breaking even faster.

This one guy drove past me in his fancy car – I think it was a Toyota. When you ride a stolen kid’s bike a Toyota is a fancy car. I let him go about his way, no problems. I wasn’t a complete and utter asshole yet at this point in my life. But I saw, plain as day, he went up the street and made a U-turn. I started thinking he was coming back for me. Yeah, it must be that. There’s no defense like a good offense I always say. So I stepped into the middle of the street to test his guts. Game of chicken – flesh vs metal. Odds against me but my warrior spirit was strong and unflinching. I had a saying “I don’t back down to vehicles” at that point in my life. I’ve since adjusted that philosophy a tad.

Dude drives up to me and stops. The arrogance. Just stops. Dead in the middle of the street like some kind of shmuck. I was still foggy from last night’s moonshine and beer (as well as from this morning’s moonshine. And beer) so I was trying to piece together what he could have meant by this display. He was no further than spitting distance from me honking his horn and talking about “get out of the street” and stuff. Why was he so close? Did he intend to spit on me?

I wasn’t going to give him time to decide (I had another saying at that point in my life – “fuck your decisions”). I launched into decisive action. I threw a rock through his front windshield and it hit him in the chest. While he was realizing what was happening I ran around and sliced his front driver’s side tire. I punched my hand through the driver door window and grabbed hold of his throat. Funny thing is he was just talking tough about getting out of the street and am I crazy and stuff but now he couldn’t talk at all! He was just making gurgling sounds.

So he hits the gas and damn near tore my arm open on the broken glass as he sped off, a little unsteady from the flat tire. I had to let go. But now I’m in the middle of the street alone looking like a goof to onlookers. I hate looking like a goof. I need to hit something. So I run to the sidewalk and hit the first guy I see – older gentleman. Seemed like a nice guy. In any other circumstance we’d be friends but embarrassed warriors don’t make good friends so I wasn’t in the mood at all. I clocked him with the overhand right. Just naked. The punch. Well… me too but I’m talking about the punch.

It only seemed to daze him slightly. I wasn’t a hard hitter but I threw a lot of punches. So I tried to follow up with a head kick. Admittedly, I wasn’t the most flexible warrior out there and I kind of fell off balance and landed on my butt. I felt queasy. Like the beer sloshing around in my belly was gonna come up. So I faced dude and let him have it. Right in his face. I used to call it The Fountain of Life because I found that after a good upchuck I could always drink more. So I let him have it. This pussy was so shocked he literally stumbled over his words…. “what the fucks” and “you’re fucking crazy” and all that stuff – the usual. So I took that time to teep kick him in the belly, this time successfully. He flew back against a store window.

I saw my opportunity. I leapt toward him, raising my hand for a flying hammer fist of death, but the old guy was quicker than I expected, even with his vision impaired by The Fountain of Life. He stepped to the side, and I flew through the storefront, landing on broken glass in the middle of the local café. Embarrassed because I literally lived 2 doors down and these guys knew me well. I’d promised not to beg on their premises earlier that year. And I kept my word – I wasn’t here to beg.

I got up and declared war. Arm and body bleeding, belly bubbling, with a warrior look on my face, I stood there and challenged every man, woman, and child in that café to a battle royal. Two cowards jumped up and grabbed my two arms while a third put me in a headlock. A HEADLOCK! I thought I was old school, lol…. a headlock! What was so funny to me hours later was that I could scarcely believe it was me doing all these things - that’s not who I am! I’m a man of peace! But I had forgotten the way. Only temporarily, yes, but long enough to do some serious damage. To my already failing reputation especially.

Anyway, the guys at the café now leave my offerings outside the door (cookies, a mini-muffin and, if I’m willing to wait, a warm coffee) and tell me not to enter the place ever again, although they will continue to feed me “out of the goodwill of their hearts”. Give me a break. Eyeroll. The embarrassment lives on but I have the personal victory of knowing that these guys respect my willingness to throw down, even against unbeatable odds. Whenever I remind them they say “yeah yeah, we know – you’re a warrior” and in a strange way that’s enough for me. I guess age does really bring humbleness.
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You didn't actually spend time writing that did you?
 
Daniel_LaRusso said:
Nonsense. He's no "thicker" in terms of frame and muscle than Volkanovski. He is very soft and sorry looking at 185.
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His head is twice the size as volks his frame is completely different i bet if you measure their wrist and and ankles winns are significantly bigger.
The human body is more complex than “hes this height he should be in this weightclass”
 
SmoothPies said:
The fact that they both weighed in at 185 doesn't even make sense. Looks like a HW vs. a LW
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No they weighed in at 194 and 194.5 respectively. They're both middleweights but this is a 195 lb catchweight bout (I assume because it was short notice).

Christos Giagos vs. Carlton Minus is also a catchweight (160 lbs). Another short-notice fight because Minus's original opponent dropped out.
 
Usually the shorter guy is thicker/wider but Winn just looks severely outsized here. He's giving up a lot of height/reach, even at 170 still but at least it'd be less pronounced (eg Woodley was a longtime WW champ & 5 ft 8 IRL I think). I know DC is his mentor & was always the shorter guy but DC is an amazing wrestler, super deceptively quick etc despite his frame
 
Why are they wearing virtue signaling cloth masks when they are about to be all over each other in 24 hrs, FFS?
 
mudrubble said:
I've fought taller guys and won so why can't he?

Back in the day before I knew what jobs were I’d hang out A LOT. Exclusively, I’d say. Sometimes in plain view, but sometimes more lurking in the shadows. Life was about warfare. Combat. Of the hand to hand variety. I looked the part and I played it better than DeNiro.

I’d rock a soldier’s hat and army boots, at all times. Sometimes I’d also have other clothing on, sometimes not. But I always had a cocky attitude about me. I was a bit of a legend in my own mind. Save your jokes about sparse clothing and cocks for some other mark. I was quick to snap, and snap got to breaking even faster.

This one guy drove past me in his fancy car – I think it was a Toyota. When you ride a stolen kid’s bike a Toyota is a fancy car. I let him go about his way, no problems. I wasn’t a complete and utter asshole yet at this point in my life. But I saw, plain as day, he went up the street and made a U-turn. I started thinking he was coming back for me. Yeah, it must be that. There’s no defense like a good offense I always say. So I stepped into the middle of the street to test his guts. Game of chicken – flesh vs metal. Odds against me but my warrior spirit was strong and unflinching. I had a saying “I don’t back down to vehicles” at that point in my life. I’ve since adjusted that philosophy a tad.

Dude drives up to me and stops. The arrogance. Just stops. Dead in the middle of the street like some kind of shmuck. I was still foggy from last night’s moonshine and beer (as well as from this morning’s moonshine. And beer) so I was trying to piece together what he could have meant by this display. He was no further than spitting distance from me honking his horn and talking about “get out of the street” and stuff. Why was he so close? Did he intend to spit on me?

I wasn’t going to give him time to decide (I had another saying at that point in my life – “fuck your decisions”). I launched into decisive action. I threw a rock through his front windshield and it hit him in the chest. While he was realizing what was happening I ran around and sliced his front driver’s side tire. I punched my hand through the driver door window and grabbed hold of his throat. Funny thing is he was just talking tough about getting out of the street and am I crazy and stuff but now he couldn’t talk at all! He was just making gurgling sounds.

So he hits the gas and damn near tore my arm open on the broken glass as he sped off, a little unsteady from the flat tire. I had to let go. But now I’m in the middle of the street alone looking like a goof to onlookers. I hate looking like a goof. I need to hit something. So I run to the sidewalk and hit the first guy I see – older gentleman. Seemed like a nice guy. In any other circumstance we’d be friends but embarrassed warriors don’t make good friends so I wasn’t in the mood at all. I clocked him with the overhand right. Just naked. The punch. Well… me too but I’m talking about the punch.

It only seemed to daze him slightly. I wasn’t a hard hitter but I threw a lot of punches. So I tried to follow up with a head kick. Admittedly, I wasn’t the most flexible warrior out there and I kind of fell off balance and landed on my butt. I felt queasy. Like the beer sloshing around in my belly was gonna come up. So I faced dude and let him have it. Right in his face. I used to call it The Fountain of Life because I found that after a good upchuck I could always drink more. So I let him have it. This pussy was so shocked he literally stumbled over his words…. “what the fucks” and “you’re fucking crazy” and all that stuff – the usual. So I took that time to teep kick him in the belly, this time successfully. He flew back against a store window.

I saw my opportunity. I leapt toward him, raising my hand for a flying hammer fist of death, but the old guy was quicker than I expected, even with his vision impaired by The Fountain of Life. He stepped to the side, and I flew through the storefront, landing on broken glass in the middle of the local café. Embarrassed because I literally lived 2 doors down and these guys knew me well. I’d promised not to beg on their premises earlier that year. And I kept my word – I wasn’t here to beg.

I got up and declared war. Arm and body bleeding, belly bubbling, with a warrior look on my face, I stood there and challenged every man, woman, and child in that café to a battle royal. Two cowards jumped up and grabbed my two arms while a third put me in a headlock. A HEADLOCK! I thought I was old school, lol…. a headlock! What was so funny to me hours later was that I could scarcely believe it was me doing all these things - that’s not who I am! I’m a man of peace! But I had forgotten the way. Only temporarily, yes, but long enough to do some serious damage. To my already failing reputation especially.

Anyway, the guys at the café now leave my offerings outside the door (cookies, a mini-muffin and, if I’m willing to wait, a warm coffee) and tell me not to enter the place ever again, although they will continue to feed me “out of the goodwill of their hearts”. Give me a break. Eyeroll. The embarrassment lives on but I have the personal victory of knowing that these guys respect my willingness to throw down, even against unbeatable odds. Whenever I remind them they say “yeah yeah, we know – you’re a warrior” and in a strange way that’s enough for me. I guess age does really bring humbleness.
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I laughed. I cried. I pondered.
 
Even if he dropped down to 155lb he'd still be considered short, he is at a severe disadvantage for MMA with that build. Could you imagine this guy fighting Rockhold ?
 
TR0UBLE SH00TER said:
Why are they wearing virtue signaling cloth masks when they are about to be all over each other in 24 hrs, FFS?
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To avoid giving each other covid or catching covid from others before the fight starts
 
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