Elections Democratic Road to 2016 Primary Thread

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How can you NOT vote for this?



This one's for you TS

Much appreciated.

 

[Gandhi]

Sorry I should be more clear. I'm basing my opinion by comparing now to past Presidential Administrations: born in 85 so I remember Bush I Clinton Bush II.

Those times were moderate imo. Compared to the rest of the world, like you say... I really don't know. Yea, America maybe right compared to the rest of the world, but compared to what we were in the 1990"s and early 2000s, we have shifted left.

That makes sense although I would point out that bush 1 brought the repubs to the left while Clinton brought dems to the right. Obama has been centrist, even Obamacare is the rebuplican version of hillarycare. If you still argued OB is more central left than right, you have to recog that the dems have moved to the right over the last 8 years and the republicans have moved even further to the right. The only feasible left shift I see is in Medicare, everything else from foreign policy to fiscal policy has been a rearguard action trying to not go as right as the tea party wants.

 

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Strong jobs number holds risks for Clinton

The era of easy money is about to end. The 211,000 jobs created in November make it all but certain the Federal Reserve will begin raising interest rates later this month — a move that could thwart Hillary Clinton’s hopes of winning the White House if the Fed inadvertently triggers a sharp economic slowdown.
Friday’s numbers showing unemployment unchanged at 5 percent were all but a formality for Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen, who has been telegraphing in multiple appearances this week that the Fed plans to hike rates at its next meeting for the first time since June of 2006. Yellen would never say it out loud, but the purpose of a rate hike would be in part to tap the brakes on the economy and slow job creation so it does not lead to faster inflation.

Hillary Clinton on San Bernardino: 'They should not have been able to do this'

As investigations continue into whether Wednesday's bloody attack in San Bernardino, California, was an act of terrorism, Hillary Clinton urged people to remember that most Muslim Americans are just as traumatized as everyone else.
“President Obama spoke this morning about the possibility that it was terror-related," Clinton said Thursday during an appearance in Manchester, New Hampshire. "I’m confident that they will get what happened and take whatever steps are necessary to prevent future attacks."

Sorry about the lack of updating this thread. Most of the articles on the Dem side have become about Hillary in the general election. The media seems to have ended much of the dialogue on that side's primary.

 

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GOP seeks to make Clinton Foundation a 2016 headache

Hillary Clinton's allies are insisting controversial donations to her eponymous foundation won't be an issue for her probable presidential bid

 

[bad seed]

ITS HAPPENING! DWS's complicity in debateghazi is now common knowledge.

O'Malley bless.

 

[theBLADE1]

Sorry about the lack of updating this thread. Most of the articles on the Dem side have become about Hillary in the general election. The media seems to have ended much of the dialogue on that side's primary.

Which IMO further proves that most of the media is in the bag for Hillary, though I will admit it does seem that talks about the Democratic primary have slowed down on all fronts.

I still think Hillary loses the primary and even if she does win, I could easily see her losing the GE to someone like Rubio or Carson(which scares me shitless).

 

[Micah]

Let's simplify this.



Hilary Clinton Vs. Jeb Bush.


Winner: Jeb Bush.


No need for the charades.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Colbert is the new go to spot for politics I guess. Looked at my DVR and he has Cruz, Trump and Elizabeth Warren next week.

I really thought when he took Letterman's job that he would eliminate his political shtick, maybe checking in with once in awhile. I wonder how his ratings are doing as the Letterman audience is not the Daily Show audience.

 

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Which IMO further proves that most of the media is in the bag for Hillary, though I will admit it does seem that talks about the Democratic primary have slowed down on all fronts.

I still think Hillary loses the primary and even if she does win, I could easily see her losing the GE to someone like Rubio or Carson(which scares me shitless).

She's winning the endorsement primary 430 to 2 so far

 

[Lead]

Let's simplify this.



Hilary Clinton Vs. Jeb Bush.


Winner: Jeb Bush.


No need for the charades.

Do you want a medal? It can be arranged

 

[Lead]

I really thought when he took Letterman's job that he would eliminate his political shtick, maybe checking in with once in awhile. I wonder how his ratings are doing as the Letterman audience is not the Daily Show audience.

I think it's too hard for him to completely drop the Colbert Report persona and also not talk politics at all. It would be a completely different person hosting the show.

 

[theBLADE1]

She's winning the endorsement primary 430 to 2 so far

That means nothing to me and a lot of other people. Which I'm sure you probably disagree with but that's okay as I wouldn't expect you or anyone to agree.

How many people do you know that will vote for a candidate just because another politician has endorsed them? I don't know any and if I did I would tell them to get their head checked. Also it must be noted that Hillary represents establishment politics so it shouldn't come as a surprise that other politicians who benefit from the current establishment would endorse her.

I personally think Bernie Sanders scares the shit out of a lot of politicians and for that matter a lot of uneducated people. I'm hoping and betting on the fact that that will change.

 

[Diamond Jim]

More interesting discussion might be who Hillary eventually tabs as her running mate.

-Sen Mark Warner (Va)
-Sen Sherrod Brown (Oh)
-Gov Deval Patrick (Mass)
-HUD Sec. Julian Castro (Tx)
-Gov. Martin O'Mally (Maryland)
-Gov Jay Nixon (Missouri)
-Sen Tim Kaine (Va)
-Gov Brian Schweitzer (Mt)

Castro, IMO, would be the top choice but would be the tough sell. One knock on Palin was lack of experience being a governor of a small state. I know Castro is no Palin but he was mayor of San Antonio, not even the governor of a state. The HUD post really doesn't help either.

Three others I think she'd consider is first, Tom Vilsack. Ex governor of Iowa for 8 years and the secretary of agriculture since 2008. Second, Sen. Martin Heinrich from New Mexico. Served in House and now senate. Not a big name but young up and comer. Last, would be a reach considering he hasn't held office but Gen. Wesley Clark. Silver star and Purple Heart from Vietnam, NATO commander and Clinton friend.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

I think it's too hard for him to completely drop the Colbert Report persona and also not talk politics at all. It would be a completely different person hosting the show.

I watched a couple of interviews with him and he seemed to indicate that he was tired of constantly being "on" for the Colbert Report and looked forward to showing everyone that he was just a talented comedian in general and didn't need to rely on his political shtick. I guess I was wrong, but I thought he WAS going go be a completely different person hosting the show. I'm curious about whether he keeps or alienates the Letterman audience.

 

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That means nothing to me and a lot of other people. Which I'm sure you probably disagree with but that's okay as I wouldn't expect you or anyone to agree.

How many people do you know that will vote for a candidate just because another politician has endorsed them? I don't know any and if I did I would tell them to get their head checked. Also it must be noted that Hillary represents establishment politics so it shouldn't come as a surprise that other politicians who benefit from the current establishment would endorse her.

I personally think Bernie Sanders scares the shit out of a lot of politicians and for that matter a lot of uneducated people. I'm hoping and betting on the fact that that will change.

Whether you know someone or not isn't important. That's anecdotal. Endorsements do matter and have show to in elections from the past whether it's good or not. This does seem to be a cycle that has a lot of rage against the establishment types however. I think if that momentum ends up helping anyone defy the odds, it won't be Bernie. It would be Trump since he doesn't have a single endorsement from a politican in Washington and is crushing the polls. That can change a lot in the next month however.

 

[ShoelessRye]

^Castro would be a terrible choice - I can't even believe he's getting mentioned in the MSM as legit. I think he's being groomed for 2024 by the Dems as the answer to George Prescott Bush and will have a prominent role in a Hillary cabinet but will NOT be her running mate. I mean Mayor of San Antonio and then HUD Sec is not a VP make. His brother Joaquin would be a better choice as at least he would be a House Rep for three years come 2016. And that would be ridiculous as well.

I don't like Clark in the role, and don't think Hillary needs FP credentials re-enforced (not to mention Arkansas double down) as that is what her SoS role was all about. He's a bit of a wild card as well.

Writing off the South, I think Hillary's weakness will be the mountain west. Gov Schweitzer would help here, another name is Sen Bennett of Colorado. Hickenlooper doesn't seem as popular as he once was and being divorced probably doesn't help either.

I think Hillary will need a former Governor on her ticket - to have book balancing/budget issues covered. Sure she ran Foggy Bottom, but that has a huge budget, and probably a fair portion is black/off the books.

I know some believe it's overstated, but I think a swing state pol is important as well as in toss-up states it could make all the difference. Which is why I think GOP goes Bush/Kasich or Bush/Portman for a Florida/Ohio ticket that would lock down both states for the GOP. If they did, it would be paramount that Hillary locked down Virginia - so either Warner or Kaine would have to be her pick IMO. Of the two Kaine might be the better candidate as he's much more personable and charismatic and can speak fluent Spanish.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I watched a couple of interviews with him and he seemed to indicate that he was tired of constantly being "on" for the Colbert Report and looked forward to showing everyone that he was just a talented comedian in general and didn't need to rely on his political shtick. I guess I was wrong, but I thought he WAS going go be a completely different person hosting the show. I'm curious about whether he keeps or alienates the Letterman audience.

I'm sure once the election is over the political aspect of his show will be reduced, but I also bet he feels a responsibility to discuss real issues, too. Comedy Central was a largely lefty channel, now he has a more diverse viewership and needs to be more even handed while still wants to discuss real issues.

 

[theBLADE1]

Whether you know someone or not isn't important. That's anecdotal. Endorsements do matter and have show to in elections from the past whether it's good or not. This does seem to be a cycle that has a lot of rage against the establishment types however. I think if that momentum ends up helping anyone defy the odds, it won't be Bernie. It would be Trump since he doesn't have a single endorsement from a politican in Washington and is crushing the polls. That can change a lot in the next month however.

But I feel like you just kind of made my point with your Trump statement. And momentum is the only thing that will help Bernie defy the odds as Trump has been steadily declining with his making fun of disabled people and all.

And if you want to talk about endorsements then it's important to make the distinction between the types of endorsements that candidates are receiving. Did you see killer Mike's speech for Bernie Atlanta?

[YT]QmtAsnS42_0[/YT]

That's truly powerful words right there. Those are the kinds of endorsements that will gain a candidate more voters. People like Seth McFarlane, Sarah Silverman, And the Red Hot Chili Peppers have far more power to sway the minds of voters in today's age then a bunch of political candidates that no one has ever heard of who have a vested interest in keeping things the same as they have been.

 

[5H3RD0G]

Hillary seems to be the frontrunner but we have to challenge her to see if she can assemble a group that can handle the current and future challenges. Where's the gameplan let's see if our university scholars around the US can chime in and if we have a winner or bantha fodder. :icon_chee

 

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I watched a couple of interviews with him and he seemed to indicate that he was tired of constantly being "on" for the Colbert Report and looked forward to showing everyone that he was just a talented comedian in general and didn't need to rely on his political shtick. I guess I was wrong, but I thought he WAS going go be a completely different person hosting the show. I'm curious about whether he keeps or alienates the Letterman audience.

There's a difference though from dropping that persona and the topic altogether. It's obviously something he's kept track of fairly long and perhaps a niche he could take advantage of. He may have a decent amount of contact with political figures to compared to hollywood just yet. Sure, CBS helps with guests but some of it can be the hosts/productions relationship with the person/persons management. I actually like the idea of what he has right now. A celebrity, politician, and then a musical/theatrical act. It's well versed.

Also, it is possible he may be using this as a gradual period. You have to understand he doesn't want to lose any of his old audience that may have jumped onto this show. He may be trying to make them feel comfortable before easing off of politics. It's been less than a month so it's hard to know what he's going to do.

 

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But I feel like you just kind of made my point with your Trump statement. And momentum is the only thing that will help Bernie defy the odds as Trump has been steadily declining with his making fun of disabled people and all.

And if you want to talk about endorsements then it's important to make the distinction between the types of endorsements that candidates are receiving. Did you see killer Mike's speech for Bernie Atlanta?

[YT]QmtAsnS42_0[/YT]

That's truly powerful words right there. Those are the kinds of endorsements that will gain a candidate more voters. People like Seth McFarlane, Sarah Silverman, And the Red Hot Chili Peppers have far more power to sway the minds of voters in today's age then a bunch of political candidates that no one has ever heard of who have a vested interest in keeping things the same as they have been.

I don't make that point with Trump because
1. I still think Trump won't be the exception to the rule but said if there were one, imo it would be him. Still don't even see it with Trump though.
2. Bernie and Trump are different. Bernie is still a career long politician and in the primary with the sitting president. The anti-establishment energy is far more directed in the GOP primary. The polls reflect that.

I don;t think anything has proven that to be true with celebrity endorsements either. If that were true, we'd have a democratic president every election. And it would be far more hilarious if a person based their decision on who the RHCP like rather than a politician in their region they like.

 

[PEB]

Karl Rove uses Elizabeth Warren speech to attack Hillary Clinton. Problem Warren has been ask about the ad and so far has failed to respond. It apparently got a few Clinton people mad that she did not come right out an slam the ad.

American Crossroads: "Rigged": http://youtu.be/z1iz2JZY7Z8

 

[Deleted member 429137]

I'm sure once the election is over the political aspect of his show will be reduced, but I also bet he feels a responsibility to discuss real issues, too. Comedy Central was a largely lefty channel, now he has a more diverse viewership and needs to be more even handed while still wants to discuss real issues.

There's a difference though from dropping that persona and the topic altogether. It's obviously something he's kept track of fairly long and perhaps a niche he could take advantage of. He may have a decent amount of contact with political figures to compared to hollywood just yet. Sure, CBS helps with guests but some of it can be the hosts/productions relationship with the person/persons management. I actually like the idea of what he has right now. A celebrity, politician, and then a musical/theatrical act. It's well versed.

Also, it is possible he may be using this as a gradual period. You have to understand he doesn't want to lose any of his old audience that may have jumped onto this show. He may be trying to make them feel comfortable before easing off of politics. It's been less than a month so it's hard to know what he's going to do.

You're probably both right.

On a personal level, I would hope he keeps his political bent instead of becoming like every other boring late night talk show. Too bad I will probably never watch him.

 

[theBLADE1]

I don't make that point with Trump because
1. I still think Trump won't be the exception to the rule but said if there were one, imo it would be him. Still don't even see it with Trump though.
2. Bernie and Trump are different. Bernie is still a career long politician and in the primary with the sitting president. The anti-establishment energy is far more directed in the GOP primary. The polls reflect that.

I don;t think anything has proven that to be true with celebrity endorsements either. If that were true, we'd have a democratic president every election. And it would be far more hilarious if a person based their decision on who the RHCP like rather than a politician in their region they like.

My point was that you don't see people endorsing Hillary with that kind of fervor. People who endorse Hillary are basically wanting to vote for another 4 to 8 years of Obama. Which is fine I guess but people who are voting for Sanders are voting for him because they genuinely want to change the way things are done in Washington.

All I'm saying is I think this race is still far from over regardless of what polls are saying. We haven't even reached crunch time yet.

 

[CauseImbetta]

Who cares about it being democratic/republic?
The same people will control everything.

The oil lobby, israeli lobby and military industrial complex (those you mention control everything) are already in bed with Clinton.

 

[Lead]

You're probably both right.

On a personal level, I would hope he keeps his political bent instead of becoming like every other boring late night talk show. Too bad I will probably never watch him.

It's hard to stay up that late for me but then again, I always watched Daily Show/Colbert report after they aired. Definitely will watch the segments he has politicians on. Watched only the Bernie one this week. He's very much into the arts but I can't say I care much for that on a late night show. I really get a creepy vibe from his lead musician. The guy just looks weird.

 

[Lead]

My point was that you don't see people endorsing Hillary with that kind of fervor. People who endorse Hillary are basically wanting to vote for another 4 to 8 years of Obama. Which is fine I guess but people who are voting for Sanders are voting for him because they genuinely want to change the way things are done in Washington.

All I'm saying is I think this race is still far from over regardless of what polls are saying. We haven't even reached crunch time yet.

I agree with the top. The biggest advantage Hillary will have as the GE candidate is getting a third term Obama vote. The guy could've been the next FDR if there weren't term limits and she could benefit from that charisma he had. With that, I really wonder if it would play out like Reagan/Bush where people don't reelect her for her second term.

Anyways, time will tell but all indicators point to Hillary. Even when Bernie was neck and neck with NH and Iowa, polls still didn't favor him because of the black vote. You can;t win the Democratic primary with the percentages he gets with black voters. Not even close and it seems like the debates haven;t changed anything with him getting exposure.

 

[PEB]

The oil lobby, israeli lobby and military industrial complex (those you mention control everything) are already in bed with Clinton.

An name me one other one who has even a remote shot who is not the same? Even Rand Paul is compitulating to the neocons. When one pack is spending over 800 million dollars.

 

[Diamond Jim]

Hillary widens lead in new CNN/ORC poll.

Clinton- 42%
Sanders- 24%
Biden- 22%

When Joe not offered in poll:

Clinton- 57%
Sanders- 28%

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/09/cnn-poll-hillary-clinton-gains-ground-bernie-sanders

 

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Clinton's 2016 Gender Play

It was in New Hampshire, in 2008, when Hillary Clinton momentarily let down her guard.

She was coming off a stunning loss in Iowa when someone in Portsmouth asked Clinton how she got herself out the door every day. At first, the candidate joked about it: "On special days, I do have help." But then she turned serious, the stress of the campaign showing in her voice and on her face. "You know, this is very personal for me," she said. "It's not just political, it's not just public."

That flash of emotion drove some pundits and operatives to wonder whether New Hampshire would find this crying candidate unfit for the presidency. Instead, voters—particularly women—rallied to her, rewarding the human they saw peeking out from behind the politician and giving her a victory just days after being down by double-digits in the polls.

 

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Hillary widens lead in new CNN/ORC poll.

Clinton- 42%
Sanders- 24%
Biden- 22%

When Joe not offered in poll:

Clinton- 57%
Sanders- 28%

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/09/cnn-poll-hillary-clinton-gains-ground-bernie-sanders

Ha. Classic "journalism". Look at RCP anytime you see a poll. Kinda weird the lead widened yet the past three polls have been almost the same margin?

RCP Democratic Primary

"Gains ground"? Where
CNN Poll Hillary +18
CBS News Hillary +20
ABC/WP Hillary +18
Monmouth Hillary +20

Amazing how they can post headlines like that and get away with it. I'm not even a Bernie fan. Just annoyed when a supposed journalist can't even get their facts straight on something simple as a poll (or they try to twist it's relevance). They aren't referencing the no Biden poll either for people to look at. I"m wondering if they are using that as where the gain is.

 

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Hillary Clinton previews 2016, says it’s time to ‘crack every last glass ceiling’

Declaring this the time to “crack every last glass ceiling,” Hillary Rodham Clinton advocated forcefully here Tuesday for greater economic mobility for women and said she hopes to lead a divided nation into a “warm purple space” of compromise.

Clinton’s appearance before 5,000 female leaders in the heart of Silicon Valley’s technology industry left no doubt that she will run for president again. The overwhelming favorite for the 2016 Democratic nomination, Clinton said that she would announce her campaign “in good time” and that she was nearly finished checking off her pre-campaign to-do list.

 

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Hillary Clinton taps Arkansas network in bid to finish Sanders

Hillary Clinton can’t beat a Republican in Arkansas, but she’s not there for a general-election battle.
The former first lady has returned to her onetime home state to court Democratic convention-goers, knowing every southern delegate could prove crucial to ending Bernie Sanders’ run.
“This is about delegates, it isn’t about electoral votes,” said Skip Rutherford, a longtime Clinton friend and the dean of the Clinton School of Public Service at the University of Arkansas. “There will be a completely different strategy when it comes to electoral votes.”

 

[ShoelessRye]

She's allowed to talk about a "warm purple space" because she has no primary challenger. I'd like to hear how she believes all of a sudden the Republicans will compromise with her - because they did with Bill? More NAFTA and Glass-Stegal compromises - YAY!

She's taking the progressive left for granted - and that is a huge mistake. Unlike the far right who will show up and hold their nose and vote, the far left will not show up to vote - they'll happily cut their nose off to spite their face.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

Colbert putting Cuz on the spot.

Cruz is very well spoken to say the least. He handled himself well

Man that got heated at the end. Was Colbert rustled?

 

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Spencer Zwick Sees Clinton Raising $1.7 Billion for 2016

The man who helped Mitt Romney raise half a billion dollars in his unsuccessful 2012 presidential run says Hillary Clinton is poised to rake in more than three times that amount in the 2016 campaign.

During a Tuesday interview on Bloomberg Politics' With All Due Respect, Spencer Zwick, the co-founder of Solamere Capital and Romney's former finance chair, said that as a crowded Republican field battles it out for the party's nomination, an unchallenged Clinton will be busy amassing a unprecedented war chest for the general election.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Ha. Classic "journalism". Look at RCP anytime you see a poll. Kinda weird the lead widened yet the past three polls have been almost the same margin?

RCP Democratic Primary

"Gains ground"? Where
CNN Poll Hillary +18
CBS News Hillary +20
ABC/WP Hillary +18
Monmouth Hillary +20

Amazing how they can post headlines like that and get away with it. I'm not even a Bernie fan. Just annoyed when a supposed journalist can't even get their facts straight on something simple as a poll (or they try to twist it's relevance). They aren't referencing the no Biden poll either for people to look at. I"m wondering if they are using that as where the gain is.

Read this article and ask yourself which two words are missing.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/1...ry-clintons-troubles-in-charts.html?referrer=

 

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Why Hillary Loves Paul Ryan

Hillary Clinton explained yesterday what she likes about Paul Ryan. It’s certainly not that she suddenly agrees with Mitt Romney’s former vice presidential running mate on much of anything. But he and her Democratic friend, Patty Murray, together made Washington work—one time, at least, in 2013.
If Clinton runs for president and wins, she’ll apparently try to turn Washington into “a nice warm purple space” for compromise where there now exists, well, almost none. That’s the vision she laid out at a Silicon Valley technology conference and it’s not entirely a pipe dream, Clinton told the assembled women.

 

[RetiredWisFighter]

Bernie on Colbert Late Show

 

[Denter]

She's allowed to talk about a "warm purple space" because she has no primary challenger. I'd like to hear how she believes all of a sudden the Republicans will compromise with her - because they did with Bill? More NAFTA and Glass-Stegal compromises - YAY!

She's taking the progressive left for granted - and that is a huge mistake. Unlike the far right who will show up and hold their nose and vote, the far left will not show up to vote - they'll happily cut their nose off to spite their face.

That's true. A wider spectrum of the left is willing to simply not vote on principle, IMO. On the right this is only the hard right, the kindof people who are thoroughly screened by the GOP to make sure they don't show up near CPAC or anything like that.

Just looking at the electoral college map, though, any generic Democrat will have an easier time in 2016 than a generic Republican.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You're probably both right.

On a personal level, I would hope he keeps his political bent instead of becoming like every other boring late night talk show. Too bad I will probably never watch him.

I have a feeling he will.

I mean, he has had to be on top of political issues for the past 15 years (Daily Show + Colbert Report) so I'm pretty sure it's grown on him. You can't do something that well for that long and just drop it.

Colbert putting Cuz on the spot.

Cruz is very well spoken to say the least. He handled himself well

Man that got heated at the end. Was Colbert rustled?

Yeah, Cruz came out surprisingly likeable. Colbert put it on him but Cruz escaped nicely.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Anyone but Hillary, please.

She's the crappiest Democratic candidate in decades. Worse than Kerry. Basically a moderate neocon. Ugh.

And I've given up on Warren. She's definitely not running.

 

[wisdom blows]

Hillary widens lead in new CNN/ORC poll.

Clinton- 42%
Sanders- 24%
Biden- 22%

When Joe not offered in poll:

Clinton- 57%
Sanders- 28%

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/09/cnn-poll-hillary-clinton-gains-ground-bernie-sanders

This poll was done on 65% landline, and everyone polled was 50 years of age or older. This is wildly inaccurate.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Anyone but Hillary, please.

She's the crappiest Democratic candidate in decades. Worse than Kerry. Basically a moderate neocon. Ugh.

And I've given up on Warren. She's definitely not running.

I would agree with all of this, though I'd still much rather have Clinton as president than Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.

 

[Denter]

This poll was done on 65% landline, and everyone polled was 50 years of age or older. This is wildly inaccurate.

If true that pretty much busts that poll.

 

[Denter]

I would agree with all of this, though I'd still much rather have Clinton as president than Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.

What do you think of Webb? I heard him on the radio and he sounds interesting.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

FBI Said to Recover Personal E-Mails From Hillary Clinton Server

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-personal-e-mails-from-hillary-clinton-server

The FBI has recovered personal and work-related e-mails from the private computer server used by Hillary Clinton during her time as secretary of state, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation’s success at salvaging personal e-mails that Clinton said had been deleted raises the possibility that the Democratic presidential candidate’s correspondence eventually could become public. The disclosure of such e-mails would likely fan the controversy over Clinton’s use of a private e-mail system for official business.

The FBI is investigating how and why classified information ended up on Clinton’s server. The probe probably will take at least several more months, according to the person, who described the matter on condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing and deals with sensitive information.

If I was a Hillary supporter, I'd be like.... OOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhh SSSSShhhhiiiiitttttt

 

[ShoelessRye]

I would agree with all of this, though I'd still much rather have Clinton as president than Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.

Only because of the Supreme Court nominees. Otherwise I'd rather a Republican destroy Social Security like Hillary will in some grand bargain while waxing poetic about working with Paul Ryan.

Hillary is pissed at the progressive wing for backing Pres Obama in 2008 and she's going to be a hot mess as President, selling out to corporate interests every chance she gets.

 

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State Dept. to send Benghazi committee nearly 1,000 Clinton emails

The State Department announced Friday that it is sending the House Benghazi committee nearly 1,000 emails from Hillary Clinton's private account — a batch three times larger than the set of Clinton messages her former agency sent to Capitol Hill back in May.
A senior State Department official said the decision to provide the new set of about 925 emails is linked to Clinton's expected testimony to the panel next month and to a clearer understanding by State officials that Congressional investigators want all Libya-related records, not just those involving security issues related to the deadly 2012 attack on U.S. facilities in Benghazi.
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"We recognize the potential that an advanced look at Libya-related materials may be beneficial to the Benghazi Committee as it prepares for its hearing with the former [secretary] on October 22nd. To accommodate that, the Department undertook another review of the emails provided by former Secretary Clinton to provide such Libya-related emails, and to ensure all Benghazi-related materials have been provided to the Committee," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Clinton Foundation snubbed by the pope, Elton John, Janet Yellen

The Clinton Foundation invited everyone from Pope Francis and Leonardo DiCaprio to Bill de Blasio and Janet Yellen to its showcase gathering starting Saturday in New York City, according to multiple sources familiar with the planning.
But those invitations were among the dozens turned down by all manner of celebrities, dignitaries and donors, according to the sources, who said the controversies swirling around the foundation and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign have made some bold-faced names and donors wary of the foundation.
The glitzy Clinton Global Initiative gathering in New York, which has the lofty title “The Future of Impact,” was supposed to have been a celebration of the accomplishments of the $2-billion Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation’s past work as it pivots towards a future with Chelsea Clinton at the helm.