Deja Vu ~ When Jon Jones goes up to HW

[samoajoe]

LOL at Jones fans Shogun and Rampage are old and slow but they are NAMES, Lyoto and Evans are his best wins but his fans need to face it both of these men could cut to MW while Jones is a 6 month camp away from stepping on the scale the same weight as Cain and a whole lot leaner.

Get back to me when he crushes someone who he doesn't have a huge size advantage over.

 

[Jawth]

While Jones is incredibly talented you really can't deny that he's had significant physical advantages over all of his opponents.

It'll be interesting to see how he performs at HW, even though I don't necessarily believe he's going to move up anytime soon.

 

[Break Brick]

I think he'll do good but not dominate, top 5 probably. No way of knowing yet as we have no measuring stick of how he does against skilled bigger guys. We'll have to wait and see

 

[IIIIIIII]

i think that velasquez's wrestling and pace would be too much for jones. i don't see cain standing around long enough to give jones a chance to stand and strike.

i see this potential fight playing out like the first silva/sonnen fight, though with a finish on the ground for cain. cain doesn't have the pillowfists chael does.

 

[FightsFTW]

I doubt Jones would dominate HW like he has LHW, definitely think he will be top 5, but easily become champ? Not with the type of monsters at HW. I'd love to see Jones take a leg kick from Overeem or an Uberknee, or a JDS uppercut or overhand. I don't see Jones dominating HW like LHW.

 

[MMASuperfan]

Now post a gif that isn't 6 years old.

Boy did that post really scream "I HAVE AUTHORITY ON THE INTERNET MMA FORUMS!"

haha. Fucking Keyboard Warriors are the worst.

 

[MMAGermany]

jones wins cause of his body. jones vs opponents the same size, strenght: broken bones. imagine mir grabbing one of those chicken legs haahah.

just face it, jones skills are just average. put his skillset in ruas/machidas/whoevers body: not even top 10.

 

[method115]

Oh lord this Jones hype is really getting out of controle

Lol

Let Jones sticking to fighting guy's like Rampage,whom just plods around the ring throwing nothing but hooks and only winning if his opponents are stupid enough to sit in the pocket and brawl with him

Or perhaps Jones should stick to fighting guy's like Slowgun,whom looked like complete dog crap fighting a 44 year old Coleman

So Overeem can move up from LHW to HW and do great but Jones the greatest LHW we've seen in a long time maybe of all time can't do the same? I can understand if you have doubts I do as well but to act like its ridiculous isn't being rational.

 

[dubjab]

Don't like his chances vs Valasquez.

 

[EmeliankoFan1]

jones wins cause of his body. jones vs opponents the same size, strenght: broken bones. imagine mir grabbing one of those chicken legs haahah.

just face it, jones skills are just average. put his skillset in ruas/machidas/whoevers body: not even top 10.

So is that why jones has beaten the larger LHW's of his size easier then the smaller LHW's and I might add a HW fighter in O'brien that jones fought at LHW and beat in the second round without much of anything.

We will see when Jones goes up, I dont even think Jones is the only fighter who could go through the Heavies.

Gus
Texiera
Machida
Manuwa
shogun
Hendo

and a few other LHW's I think could run through the heavies. Outside of Cain and possibly JDS and Overreem, HW is a thin division on talent.

 

[cable2x]

I think once Jones has thoroughly cleaned out the LHW division (might have already happened) it would be very fun to see him move to HW. Some really intriguing matchups would go down.

 

[CNTCRUSHER]

I watched a young Reem fight Vitor back in the Pride the other day. That was at 205, reminded me of the position Bones is now

 

[CNTCRUSHER]

jones wins cause of his body. jones vs opponents the same size, strenght: broken bones. imagine mir grabbing one of those chicken legs haahah.

just face it, jones skills are just average. put his skillset in ruas/machidas/whoevers body: not even top 10.

Jones has talked of fighting at 240. He won't be the same guy bulked up like that.

 

[TheProphetAxel]

Lol @ comparing Reem vs Prime Shogun/ Prime Chuck to Jones vs Rashad/ UFC Shogun. Shogun lost a lot of what made him an animal in pride when he came over. Whether it is because of the knees or the rule differences between Pride/UFC, he is not the same person he was back then. I'm not crazy about Alistair, but he has come very far from who he used to be. His TDD has gotten much better than it was in the pride days and his striking is as good or better. Add to that the fact he put on 50 lbs of muscle and hasn't lost much cardio in the process, and he truly is a monster. I have a feeling Jones will look much better with the extra 30 lbs, but it will take him time to adjust. I see him holding the title by 2015 though.

 

[EmeliankoFan1]

Lol @ comparing Reem vs Prime Shogun/ Prime Chuck to Jones vs Rashad/ UFC Shogun. Shogun lost a lot of what made him an animal in pride when he came over. Whether it is because of the knees or the rule differences between Pride/UFC, he is not the same person he was back then. I'm not crazy about Alistair, but he has come very far from who he used to be. His TDD has gotten much better than it was in the pride days and his striking is as good or better. Add to that the fact he put on 50 lbs of muscle and hasn't lost much cardio in the process, and he truly is a monster. I have a feeling Jones will look much better with the extra 30 lbs, but it will take him time to adjust. I see him holding the title by 2015 though.

Its funny to see Overreem evolve through the years. Is it the muscle or skill level of the fighters he is facing that changed or maybe Overeems skills have improved over the years.

It should be fun to watch him against a top division wrestler or fighter in Cain.

 

[PAPERCLIP30]

Oh lord this Jones hype is really getting out of controle

Lol

Let Jones sticking to fighting guy's like Rampage,whom just plods around the ring throwing nothing but hooks and only winning if his opponents are stupid enough to sit in the pocket and brawl with him

Or perhaps Jones should stick to fighting guy's like Slowgun,whom looked like complete dog crap fighting a 44 year old Coleman

Slow, plodding forward fighters. Yeah Jones won't see that at all in the hw division.

 

[bjpenngoat]

you guys ever see how skinny his legs are? do you really think he could grapple with such huge guys that have to cut weight to make 265? Fedor and crocop were able to mitigate such huge weight disadvantages in their prime because of excellent striking and fedor had submissions from his back. Jones doesnt have the sub game from his back and his striking isnt world class its amazing because he keeps distance very well but he lacks power. Frank Mir would literally snap jones in half i dont care if Jon came in weighing 245. There is no way his frame can support the weight needed to be competitive. Tito had a similar build in that he was really big up top and had skinny legs. It worked against the smaller guys, but no way could tito throw around OVereem or cain and tito probably walks around at 240.

 

[SlomiGa]

he'd pick him apart standing

Yeah.. Wait.

No he won't.

This fight would end with Jones getting schooled on the ground.

 

[CorkscrewPunch]

Last night's fight proves one thing: Jones is the most dangerous fighter on the planet.

 

[TheStrikingGuy]

Yawn. The vast majority of people don't go up divisions - they just talk about it forever.

At least not to fight anyone good.