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Elections Debunking the Media's Claim That All of Trump's 2020 Election Challenges Were 'Baseless'

the whole ghost of hugo chavez stealing the election thing was fucking hilarious though. people actually believed in that shit and people in georgia were riled up. as far as whackadoodle stolen election conspiracies are concerned, that ones right up there as one of my favorites, second only to the one about clint hickman feeding election ballots to his chickens and then setting his farm on fire to destroy the evidence. it don't think it can get much more nuttier than that.
The only things nuttier are the peons who don't even make up the fan fiction conspiracies but simply repeat them. Aka TS & Coleclown was worst.

At least there is some creativity and a clear financial/political motive from these power hunger manipulators like Sidney Kraken or an Alex Jones type. Like they have an end game to live lavish or grab power by any means necessary. You know, a good old grift.

The nuttier shit is when the poor bums repeat it with nothing to gain as it destroys their lives socially & financially. Like they benefit from it in no way. Pure madness. Yet they are in every thread saying it even after its walked back by the originators.
 
It’s so bizarre seeing people say the democrats were the brainwashed ones over the last 7 years. That has to be projection right? How can you look at the way the average Maga supporter has completely made their life about Trump; putting flags up, bumper stickers, wearing maga clothes, all for a guy that was a walking punchline a decade ago? And they look at the other side laughing at all that and they get to “yeah, they’re the brainwashed ones.”
You literally have 1000+ of them that have been arrested because of how badly they got brainwashed by Trump. Some are doing multi-year prison sentences for Trump. Yet The War Room's chuds never accuse them of having TDS. Odd.
 
It’s so bizarre seeing people say the democrats were the brainwashed ones over the last 7 years. That has to be projection right? How can you look at the way the average Maga supporter has completely made their life about Trump; putting flags up, bumper stickers, wearing maga clothes, all for a guy that was a walking punchline a decade ago? And they look at the other side laughing at all that and they get to “yeah, they’re the brainwashed ones.”
https://www.axios.com/2023/09/07/poll-biden-2024-second-term-democrat-voters-cnn
"Poll: Two-thirds of Democrat-leaning voters don't want Biden as 2024 nominee"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...stand-trump-indictment-investigatio-rcna80917
"NBC News poll: Nearly 70% of GOP voters stand behind Trump amid indictment and investigations"

obviously, democrats are the cult here :rolleyes:

side comment/thought about the differences in approval -
it's wild to me how differently each party approves of "their guy"
Biden has objectively delivered far more material benefit for working class people than Trump did
Trump actually had negative material benefit for working people by cutting taxes for the ultra wealthy
And yet dems have very low ratings of Biden, and republicans have very high ratings of Trump.

There's really nothing else to take away from that other than that democrats obviously have way higher standards for their presidents than republicans do
 
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Label something "misinformation" and censor and demean it everywhere in media and in the minds of the emotional dupes, whether it's true or not and especially if it's true and the rigging has happened...
Are you talking about the "Fake News!" angle?
 
Why are you here? You attack me because my point is valid and you don't want to admit it, maybe you're too emotional for this...

Not only that. Quote what I post in context. Your masters have engrained on you well... They chose some real winners to do their bidding...
Your point is exactly Trump's MO in dealing with his MAGA cult. Your Master engrained you well. {<redford}
 
In the show Ozark there is some stuff about voting machines that can have the votes manipulated but leave no trace. They tell us before they do it.
Informed & credible people don't make decisions about giant accusations based off a 100% fictional cable TV series. One thats purely entertainment & scripted from real life premises.
.......Because a fictional drama cable TV series told me there would be no evidence...Evidence is no longer needed. Especially when I can combine it with some silly conspiracy theory mantra.

WOW...... this says everything you need to know about that side.

@idrankyourbeer . I would argue this may be nuttier than the Ghost of Hugo Chavez.
 
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Where it's circled, is that after in person voting ended and the mail in and absentee ballots began to be counted?

Is that the whole graph or has it been cropped?
 
All you need is a few people counting ballots in a few key races to change the election. You don't need millions of votes. In some races you need a few thousand.
There has been recounts and investigations. Trump's own Attorney General said he saw no evidence of vote rigging that would have changed the outcome.
 
https://www.axios.com/2023/09/07/poll-biden-2024-second-term-democrat-voters-cnn
"Poll: Two-thirds of Democrat-leaning voters don't want Biden as 2024 nominee"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...stand-trump-indictment-investigatio-rcna80917
"NBC News poll: Nearly 70% of GOP voters stand behind Trump amid indictment and investigations"

obviously, democrats are the cult here :rolleyes:

side comment/thought about the differences in approval -
it's wild to me how differently each party approves of "their guy"
Biden has objectively delivered far more material benefit for working class people than Trump did
Trump actually had negative material benefit for working people by cutting taxes for the ultra wealthy
And yet dems have very low ratings of Biden, and republicans have very high ratings of Trump.

There's really nothing else to take away from that other than that democrats obviously have way higher standards for their presidents than republicans do

Democrats are also tired of feeling like the DNC dictates who they can vote for. They want new blood, not dinosaur Neo-Libs. This is especially apparent among younger voters. The were willing to overlook Bernie's age because of his fiery conviction AND policy, but replace that with stoicism and policy that still seems to pamper capitalists and approval rating tanks.
 
https://www.axios.com/2023/09/07/poll-biden-2024-second-term-democrat-voters-cnn
"Poll: Two-thirds of Democrat-leaning voters don't want Biden as 2024 nominee"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...stand-trump-indictment-investigatio-rcna80917
"NBC News poll: Nearly 70% of GOP voters stand behind Trump amid indictment and investigations"

obviously, democrats are the cult here :rolleyes:

side comment/thought about the differences in approval -
it's wild to me how differently each party approves of "their guy"
Biden has objectively delivered far more material benefit for working class people than Trump did
Trump actually had negative material benefit for working people by cutting taxes for the ultra wealthy
And yet dems have very low ratings of Biden, and republicans have very high ratings of Trump.

There's really nothing else to take away from that other than that democrats obviously have way higher standards for their presidents than republicans do

I think part of what's going on is a view that Biden has been a very good president but he's a shitty campaigner. Look at the contrast between perception about the economy and the numbers (and compare to 2019, when economic numbers were similar but a bit worse). I think people are panicking a bit unnecessarily as there is a lag. We had a really deep recession, and we got out of it at record speed, and people might just not be fully aware yet.

Generally, the attitude of the bases is very different, though. Biden is seen by liberals as a guy who can implement liberal policies, and if he doesn't do it, someone else will. Trump is seen by rightists as the source of value in their lives, and they have to defend him specifically at all costs.
 
The spike in Biden votes is because of the late counting of absentee ballots, which Democrats made use of much more than Republicans. Absentee vote counting from the Dem heavy counties of Milwaukee and Dane came in later than in-person voting from other counties, that is why there was a spike for Biden.

The claims of fraud is just B.S. from Trump and the Repulicans. No evidence presented of fraud, just accusations.

Fact check: That spike in the Wisconsin vote tally was expected and legitimate, not fraud
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ud-wisconsin-overnight-vote-spike/6167188002/
 
The annoying thing about this whole discussion isn't just how dumb the Trumpist arguments are. It's that we knew back in 2015 that any election Trump lost, he'd claim was rigged against him. He said a primary loss to Ted Cruz was rigged. He claimed that the 2016 election was rigged and he actually won the popular vote. When the Access Hollywood tape came out, he said it was fake. Every time he's been caught committing crimes, he claims the courts are rigged against him. Surely, everyone with the slightest familiarity with the guy knows this about him. He doesn't take losses like a man, doesn't ever admit when he's wrong or has lost, etc. Why are people willing to humiliate themselves by working harder to defend obviously false claims than he is?
 
The spike in Biden votes is because of the late counting of absentee ballots, which Democrats made use of much more than Republicans. Absentee vote counting from the Dem heavy counties of Milwaukee and Dane came in later than in-person voting from other counties, that is why there was a spike for Biden.

The claims of fraud is just B.S. from Trump and the Repulicans. No evidence presented of fraud, just accusations.

Fact check: That spike in the Wisconsin vote tally was expected and legitimate, not fraud
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ud-wisconsin-overnight-vote-spike/6167188002/
Come on. How are they supposed to figure this out. It's not like Trump spent months before the election telling his base not to vote that way...
 
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