Social Dean Cain complains Superman Movie is too Woke & Pro-Immigration

[sickc0d3r]

Which one had Kelly Lebrock in it? Where he was basically in a coma and came after people? That one was ok. He’s just such a giant douche that I can’t take him seriously

That was Hard To Kill. Which I agree was not bad, but Out For Justice shits on that movie, my friend. Give it a chance.

 

[Corona]

There is no "outcry". I can see you're very determined to convince everyone this is like the Snow White movie or the The Acolyte TV show. It's not.

Lmao the acolyte was awful. I tapped out after 1.5 episodes. Couldn’t get over the main character looking like the cornball from Malibu’s most wanted.

 

[Corona]

Supercan sucks anyways. DC is already a poverty Marvel, they’re lucky they have Batman.

 

[Natural Order]

Dean Can and his version of Supercan was absurd.

Imagine talking about this lol.

 

[Natural Order]

That was Hard To Kill. Which I agree was not bad, but Out For Justice shits on that movie, my friend. Give it a chance.

Under Seige is an Oscar behemoth beside both!

 

[nhbbear]

That was Hard To Kill. Which I agree was not bad, but Out For Justice shits on that movie, my friend. Give it a chance.

Ok. If I ever come across it for free, I will take a look. I watched all his movies from the 90s I just don’t remember that one

 

[sickc0d3r]

Under Seige is an Oscar behemoth beside both!

Under Siege has Busey, Tommy Lee Jones, and that Erika Eleniak(sp?) chick with boobs, so I can't really fault you. But OFJ has the goat Seagal fight scene. And Forsythe as Richie is great. Plus Seagal saves a puppy! And his terrible Brooklyn accent is priceless. I'm taking OFJ.

 

[Andy Capp]

Im hearing from everyone it's great but the trailers do make it look like a steaming pile of shit

Takes one to know one, I guess.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Also, for the record, I went and saw the opening tonight. It was not woke. Typical Superman geopolitical ambiguity at play (another thing that has been a staple of the Superman franchise).

If I were to offer a criticism, it's that it's a little bit of a mess tonally. There's an awful lot of silly stuff going on throughout, but there's some genuine misty eyed sincerity and emotion in there, too, and there are times when one distracts from and undermines the other.

The righties should probably find some comfort in the fact that Clark's adoptive parents come off as the real heroes in the story, and I feel pretty confident that they voted Trump (or would have in our universe).

- Kents dont like kid didlers.!

 

[Mack Yancy]

There is no "outcry". I can see you're very determined to convince everyone this is like the Snow White movie

Yes I'm very determined to compare this film to a movie I never mentioned.

The outcry is from the content creators. That's why they are putting woke movies in their thumbnails. That's why Tyrone Magnus did a scathing review of the movie and barely mentioned James Gunn. Thats why they are calling it woke Superman, instead of woke James Gunn or woke interview. That's all there is to it, I'm afraid.

 

[Mack Yancy]

I beat a few names, but none named Yancy, they were all too pussy to stand up for themselves.

Too bad you're pushing 50 and couldn't do anything against a Yancy right now even if you tried.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Does this make you want to fight me again?

No, I like these old war stories that literally no one else is liking or paying attention to. I'm enjoying the character arc lore from beating up Abu in chicago to daydreaming about my appearance and shoving pinnapples up your ass.

And post proof I ever wanted to fight you, B-Diddy.

 

[High Test With da Best]

People missed out on the Cool Surface with Robert Patrick in the early 90s. That was her at her peak. Racktacular before the terrible disappointment of Heaven's Creatures.

Just watched the 4 season series The Unit, Patrick's a damn fine actor, I'll check this out

 

[10000yearsold]

O snap. This is serious business.

 

[High Test With da Best]

Your name isn’t N.H.B Bear the third?

Nathaniel Hawthorne Berenstein Bear

 

[Hog-train]

Many of the people refusing to post a pic, or info about their profession, age, etc are cowards. I laugh at the ones that run their mouth to me about police work and when I ask what they do, it’s crickets. Or lies. In the let’s talk about fishing thread in Mayberry, I post my pics weekly. I won’t reveal my city because that, with my pic and my profession would be prettt easy to find me and I have too many haters to risk that. Only a few sherdoggers know my real name. In 2013, I was really active in the off topic forum (a bloodbath of anything goes) and we had a tight group of regulars. They shit down the old OT and someone made us our own forum/website where we chatted and almost everyone posted pics and their names. Our resident warroom females @Sara and @fingercuffs were in there. Can’t remember the name of the forum, though.

Hot or not?

 

[jeremyemilio]

It can be. It can also have nothing to do with your preoccupation at all. Because the epitome of American virtue subsumes many things that have nothing to do with that "tension" or interpretations of Superman through the lens of an immigrant. There's entire books out there about it. In fact, here was a long-form Medium article from a year ago that delved into the philosophy of Superman following Zach Snyder's films. Ironically, in looking back at the Christopher Reeves films, and the socio-political trends of that decade in art, it mentions Superman as a foil to immigrant figures.



The wokeists may try to appropriate Superman as their own, but that's absurd, because he doesn't belong to them any more than the flag itself does. But it's most obnoxious here because they're clearly endeavoring to artificially manufacture a rejection of Superman by an American audience which has always adored Superman, and had no problem on partisan grounds with the anything they'd seen of this movie since they started hyping it last year.

Again, I feel like the article you site is engaged in the very tension and conversation I spoke about. Like I said, Superman is a popular tradition with countless collaborative creators. He's taken on all kinds of forms. But he's only "homegrown" through adoption. To argue against that is ludicrous. No version of the Superman mythos downplays his Kryptonian roots. And, as I've also noted, the question of what the adopted child owes to the adoptive family or what the immigrant owes to the nation that took him in, has always been central to the Superman story and the answer, as you point out, has almost always been a very much conservative leaning one of "a lot; the one who is taken in owes a lot to those who take them in."

As I said earlier, the film isn't woke. Like the Superman narrative as a whole, it just grapples with these issues. As I've also stated in one of my comments here, I think Ma and Pa Kent come off as the biggest heroes in this newest film, and they very much fit the archetypes of people who would very likely have voted for Trump. That's the entire point of addressing these large issues in the context of popular tradition: To bring nuance to the surface. The real world is complex. Likewise, Superman's world is complex.

You're also missing, or completely ignoring, the fact that the character was created by two young Jewish men, in 1938, as Hitler is starting WWII and rounding up Jews who are fleeing Europe and looking for places to take them in, in the absence of their own nation, which no longer exists. I mean, come on.

And for the record, even the Christopher Reeves films deal with this stuff in a deep way. The first film starts with him being put alone in a ship in an effort by his parents to rescue him from the coming death and destruction they are about to experience and give him a better life elsewhere. And then his adoptive parents strive to protect him by hiding his true origin, and teaching him to do the same. And then in Superman II fellow Kryptonians show up intending harm to his new home and he must decide whether he aligns with his birth home or his adoptive home, and even contemplates in that film whether he maybe should just fade into the background, and ultimately decides that he has a responsibility to his adoptive planet.

As I said before, and will reiterate, there's not very much that's "woke" in there, and as you suggest, the writing often leans more conservative and nationalistic (like much of DC's stuff traditionally has, especially in contrast with Marvel). But the story is pretty irrevocably wrapped up in the "stranger in a strange land" trope.

 

[nhbbear]

Hot or not?

Who, Sara and cuffs? I am a married man and all creatures are beautiful in my eyes……

Prettty decent if I recall correctly. Sara is a tiny shortie. I remember cuffs being blonde and I tried to dust off my WhatsApp to look at pics but I erased all of that I think because I couldn’t find the app. This was a long time ago, so you’ll have to forgive me not having more details.

 

[Sara]

Maybe we should have a sticky thread of our pics(if you choose to) like Mayberry. @Andy Capp why don’t we have a sticky with our pics if we so choose?

After what Ryan did to my pics I won’t freely post them.

 

[nhbbear]

After what Ryan did to my pics I won’t freely post them.

I don’t quite recall that, but it was a long time ago. Every once in a while, I get an email notification that the site is still going, but I can’t even remember the name of it. We had one hell of a crazy crew in there.