Dealing with the Bull Rush

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by BobSacamano, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. BobSacamano

    BobSacamano White Belt

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    I admit, I am guilty of this also.
    At around 4 1/2 months of BJJ I am really trying to focus on breathing and technique without using power or strength.

    A guy I fight all the time is a bit "newer" than me and stronger. We start on our knees most of the time. He is all power and bullrushes the crap out of me at the start of the round. Now not to waste time pushing and pulling for 6 minutes, I would usually pull guard and play from there. But sometimes I want to get a dominant position right off the bat. Is there a "sweep" I could do while he is on his knees and ready to bullrush?
     
  2. armtriangle

    armtriangle Brown Belt

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    you could ask to start on top.

    but if you dont want to, underhook right arm, butterfly hook right leg, roll to left (at about 2oclock) using bullrushing momentum. simple, effective.
     
  3. Jimmy Cerra

    Jimmy Cerra Amateur Fighter

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    Bullfighters don't try to deal with the charging bull head-on. They get out of the way and let the bull's momentum carry him around. In the same way, you should make an angle and let him go past. Then you can either take the back or block to sweep. Try this sweep:

    http://www.aesopian.com/5/stupid-simple-sweep/

    I have had success with a collar-elbow grip with that sweep too. The trick is just to make him get extended by blocking his knee when he bull rushes in.
     
  4. Push

    Push White Belt

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    A lot of basic takedowns will still work on the knees. They will just look awkward.

    How is he bull rushing on his knee's is what I don't understand, is he actually running on his knee's at your or are you meaning more along the lines of he starts pressuring you right away?
     
  5. pull guard with a guillotine.

    a lot of guys hang their head when they bull rush, so just snatch up the choke and get a tight closed guard.

    if he defends, you're in guard and can work like normal. defending a good guillotine can be a real pain in the ass, so he'll be less willing to rush you again and again if you keep choking him.
     
  6. ILGrappler

    ILGrappler Purple Belt

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    I'd also like to point out that this same thing happened to Bette Midler during a softball game.
     
  7. BobSacamano

    BobSacamano White Belt

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    All strength and weight forward, grabs and either pushes me back or tries to "fling me". Now if I concentrate on my base, we can stalemate for the whole 6 minutes.
     
  8. BobSacamano

    BobSacamano White Belt

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    :icon_chee

    Jesus, that's funny.
     
  9. Smash_BJJ

    Smash_BJJ White Belt

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    Get a cross collar grip with your knuckles on his collar bone, this will keep him from coming forward and will allow you to push him backwards. Then use your other hand to block the side of his knee and push him back to the side your blocking
     
  10. georgejjr

    georgejjr Black Belt

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    You can do a duck under from the knees.

    Not that I'm encouraging starting from the knees ... you're better off pulling guard, knee-to-knee fighting isn't practical for any kind of competition I've ever heard of.
     
  11. masada555

    masada555 Orange Belt

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    Hook flip. Guillotine.
     
  12. Zankou

    Zankou Bringing peace and love Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Collar drag the bejeezus out of him.

    You can pull people right through the mat if they are pushing that hard. It's horrific. The collar drag is a gigantic weapon.
     
  13. Yojimbo

    Yojimbo Brown Belt

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    Pulling a scissor sweep works well for me.

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  14. Zankou

    Zankou Bringing peace and love Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    He doesn't want to pull guard tho. So hook sweep/guillotine/scissor sweep are out.

    I'm tellin' ya, collar drag, arm drag, or russian tie are what I would look to use against somebody who keeps charging in.
     
  15. Jinzumkei

    Jinzumkei Rock El Columbian

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    Agreed! This is my bet sweep, practice it 30 times a day.
     
  16. Dale B.

    Dale B. White Belt

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    1. When he comes in fast, slide into half guard, but make sure to get the outside underhook and clear your head. Don't slide into half guard and stop, but rather slide into half guard while going directly to his back.

    2. When he is coming in, grab his right arm (on his tricep) with your right arm (from the inside) and go to the back (arm drag). For more effect, kick his right knee with your right foot while he is coming in to further off balance him. Don't forget to pull his arm forward. He should fly forward since he is already going that way. Get off to the side, don't pull him onto you.
     
  17. Smash_BJJ

    Smash_BJJ White Belt

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    I agree the the collar drag is very effective.
     
  18. BobSacamano

    BobSacamano White Belt

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    Forgive me, but what is a collar drag?

    Maybe I know as something else.
     
  19. ZakS

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    Red Gi + sidestep.

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