Daniel Cormier Refutes Claims of Adesanya Being the MW GOAT. Compares Anderson to Ali.

[kellier]

Silva’s run through the UFC was incredible but if you weren’t around to see it, all I can say is… You shoulda been there.

His reign of terror was fucking amazing.

Young Jon Jones is the only other person I've seen just obliterate opponents. For me they're the 2 GOATS

 

[Bobble Head]

DC is right regarding this for the most part in my opinion.

It was cringe hearing Sonnen’s response. He said DC has absolutely no argument for saying this and we already got our answer on this because Silva and Adesanya “already fought”. And for those of us who say Silva wasn’t in his prime, “just stop.” Obviously Sonnen lies a lot and you can’t take him seriously, but this one was hard to listen to. He succeeded in getting under my skin this time haha.


Anyways, recency bias is huge. Every current beast is the GOAT in their weight class these days. Just have to try to tune it out.

 

[Migdagen]

Izzy is the only one thinking he is the GOAT. He is trying way to hard to become Hokage.

 

[Migdagen]

Could Izzy beat prime Vitor or Hendo?

Actually... maybe. But someone with a ground game like Chael or Maia... don't think so.

 

[benebox]

I would say Adesanya needs to at least another 4-5 title defences before this should even be considered discussing.

 

[Swarthy]

Adesanya Transitioning one Titty at a time.

His end goal


Neither are the MW Goat.

Anderoid can’t be due to his roid usage.
And Adesanya is still very early career wise.

Currently I would say Bisping is the MW Goat.
And Adesanya or Robert Whittaker will eventually take the crown.

 

[NoSmilez]

It's not about being the better fighter. Anderson came and showed us things we never seen before at least in MMA. He had a lot of charisma. It even shows without being able to express himself properly and having a really hi pitched voice. On the entertainment side he had his rivalry with Chael. You can debate if it was good or bad but the drama paved the wave for money fights.

Israel is not that level yet. Everything he does is still playing catch up to Anderson's accomplishments.

 

[Pakman]

@pankrat how close would Izzy be to Anderson in this discussion, should he beat Whittaker again?
I remember you rating Whittaker highly (understandably so) that's why i ask, hombre.

multiple fights away, multiple finishes away from being there (sorry I know you weren't asking me)

Also, Anderson did what Izzy couldn't do, move up and win.

 

[Pakman]

with 96% of the people here voting for Anderson, I can go to bed happy tonight knowing that ONLY 4% of Sherdoggers have complete shit for brains (at least related to this)

 

[Iron Nick]

multiple fights away, multiple finishes away from being there (sorry I know you weren't asking me)

Also, Anderson did what Izzy couldn't do, move up and win.

I mean, Izzy has not as many wins and finished at 185 as Silva, true... but i'd also say that his level of competition is - on average - better.

 

[Billthebutcher]

dc beat the goat anderson.
izzie got beat by jan easily
jan got beat by glover easily
that puts izzie below glover

 

[Legendary]

Anderson Silva is on another level. His name is tossed in the greatest athletes to ever compete in their sport.

Anderson had a crafty-ness and IQ that honestly is unparalleled. Guy had an insane ability to just turn it on and he didn't start losing until later in his career.

The PEDS are disappointing, but you have to put it in context. He fought mainly the dark era in terms of testing. Most of his opponents were on stuff too.

 

[KootenayKid]

I think Adesanya is a future hall of fame inductee. But he still has some work to do to enter that conversation. The way he dispatched Costa and Whittaker go a long way though, especially if he can finish Whittaker again.

 

[Dionysian]

well, Ped user with double digit L's
+ Israel won when they fought each other.

Adesanya > Anderson

Come at me Anderoid Fans

If you use Anderson vs Izzy as proof of anything you'd think it'd be the opposite point... it was an extremely competitive fight of a prime Izzy vs a 72 year old Anderson, therefore prime Anderson is better all day long

 

[Pakman]

I mean, Izzy has not as many wins and finished at 185 as Silva, true... but i'd also say that his level of competition is - on average - better.

Anderson fought the best of his time. That's all he can do.

Izzy has not fought any real LEGENDS in MMA like Vitor, or Dan (aside from Anderson himself. Yoel is in the tier below great because he has never been able to actually win the big one and that's about all of his top tier wins besides Rob obv)

 

[Deleted member 506663]

I disregard anything that self serving, company shill has to say

MMA fighter comparisons to Ali, including this one, are ridiculous

 

[Iron Nick]

Anderson fought the best of his time. That's all he can do.

Izzy has not fought any real LEGENDS in MMA like Vitor, or Dan (aside from Anderson himself. Yoel is in the tier below great because he has never been able to actually win the big one and that's about all of his top tier wins besides Rob obv)

Obviously that's all he could do, but for me personally, i judge fighters and their opponents by their skillsets mostly...

 

[locust rising]

There is no logical person saying Izzy is close to MW goat

 

[Poatan Power]

Is Izzy doing right now what Anderson did in his prime?

Anderson > Izzy

It's quite simple.

 

[Dorkman]

Even with the dulling of Anderson's legacy due to the asterixs no. The time spent at the top just isn't comparable. Israel can get there. But he certainly ain't there yet.