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Daniel Cormier made excuses for not finishing a middleweight who fought on 2 days notice.

SuperNerd said:
Yup, locked him down, rolled with DC's punches, pushed away DC's strikes, he was slick from bottom.

Few guys could have defended as well as Silva did.
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That wasn't slick that was using a simple Technique, most guys with a good lockdown would've been able to survive, dc didn't know how to deal with it, you gotta be prepare to deal with it, if you are not you could get stuck in it, or swept, but Anderson wasn't attempting any sweeps, just basically stalled from it.
 
DC had a 30+ some odd weight advantage and had nothing to lose (non title fight) and decided to lay his lard ass on top of Silva and did little to no damage. I no hespect that type of performance but whatever is normal. Pussy gonna pussy.
 
BJJ_Rage said:
That wasn't slick that was using a simple Technique
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His entire defense, the way he rolled with punches, shoved DC's shoulders while just avoiding punches was slick.

DC tried mounting and couldn't DC, couldn't get passed Silva's guard, and had trouble landing shots. Silva was impressive to me.
 
SuperNerd said:
His entire defense, the way he rolled with punches, shoved DC's shoulders while just avoiding punches was slick.

Please stop being dense.
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Rolled with punches, yeah he's good at it, he's good at avoiding damage from guard, still that is just avoiding damage, he was avoiding damage and stalling for most of the fight, I'm not being dense I'm being objective, that is what Anderson did for most of the fight.
 
SuperNerd said:
Which was exactly my point, but "great guard" seemed to bother you so you missed it.
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It does, since I am a guard player and i don't consider stalling from guard a great guard.

Great at avoiding damage, sure, great guard. Not really.
 
BJJ_Rage said:
It does, since I am a guard player and i don't consider stalling from guard a great guard.

Great at avoiding damage, sure, great guard. Not really.
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Sorry to hear. I consider a guard that can stifle and stop DC so effectively better than others.

This is not my point anyways, we are talking about the DC's perceived lack of aggression and why he wasn't effective.
 
Salty, salty, salty. My man DC wasn't going to box him. I'm smelling a bunch of casuals and butthurt silva fanboys who can't deal with silva's decline.
 
The fact that Bisping beat Anderson and DC needed to lay on Andy, it blows my mind. They should make Silva vs Rockhold.
 
itheuser said:
Then do something with your takedowns. DC didn't even fight on the ground. He smothered. He wasted time on purpose.

You get him right where you want him ,and you still don't fight? Bullshit.
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You're not understanding what you're watching... Anderson has shown great defense on the ground throughout his entire career, this fight being no exception. He was controlling Cormier's posture so that he was unable to land big power shots on the ground. Also Silva has great head movement even on the ground.
 
I didn't really enjoy the performance but considering all the fucked up circumstances and change of opponents and everything he trained for for the past 2 months, I won't hate on the guy. I understand and admire he wanted to step up and still fight for the fans, but ironically I think it harmed him in the eyes of the casual fans.
 
BJJ_Rage said:
It does, since I am a guard player and i don't consider stalling from guard a great guard.

Great at avoiding damage, sure, great guard. Not really.
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If avoiding damage or submission from guard doesn't constitute great guard I don't know what does. The fight should've been stood up much more and often cause DC didn't do shit on top. DC did little to no damage on top control, got tagged several times standing and had nothing to offer in return and his cardio looked like crap for a guy that was training for 5 rounds and or "death". He should be ashamed. I would've respected him more if he kept it standing even if he lost. This is a guy that stood with TRT Bigfoot, Nelson, Jones, Gus, rumble way more than Silva who is past his prime, came on 2 days notice and was outweighed by a large amount and he wonders why he has no fans and gets booed.
 
I think it just shows how to play the expectations game.

I expected DC to do alot better, but Anderson had nothing but defense for 90% of the fight. All the offense he had was off of standups that wouldn't have happened against a lesser opponent(Chael etc).

The strategy was to cling to DC as tightly as possible to *stall* the action & force standups he didn't deserve. The reason was because he had no other route to victory.


It wasn't great, but comparing anyone comparing this to Jon Fitch doesn't remember how awful watching Fitch was. It would be like this, but without any strikes or standups.

I was impressed that Silva survived, but he lost 30-26, 30-26.
 
ZipZito said:
I didn't really enjoy the performance but considering all the fucked up circumstances and change of opponents and everything he trained for for the past 2 months, I won't hate on the guy. I understand and admire he wanted to step up and still fight for the fans, but ironically I think it harmed him in the eyes of the casual fans.
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He trained way longer than 2 months but people are mad because he could've put on that same bs performance/strategy on 2 days notice. I'm really curious what his game plan for Jones was because he looked shitty in top control, pathetic standing and gassed after 3.
 
Squintz said:
If avoiding damage or submission from guard doesn't constitute great guard I don't know what does. The fight should've been stood up much more and often cause DC didn't do shit on top. DC did little to no damage on top control, got tagged several times standing and had nothing to offer in return and his cardio looked like crap for a guy that was training for 5 rounds and or "death". He should be ashamed. I would've respected him more if he kept it standing even if he lost. This is a guy that stood with TRT Bigfoot, Nelson, Jones, Gus, rumble way more than Silva who is past his prime, came on 2 days notice and was outweighed by a large amount and he wonders why he has no fans and gets booed.
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I'm not saying dc did great, but stalling from lockdown ain't that hard, just like getting full guard and hugging for dear life looking for a stand up, is not wrong, and is a good strategy, is not a good guard though, the guard has multiple applications, yes primary objective is to avoid damage but a good guard player needs to be able to Carry some offense also, and last night Anderson did not.
 
A former Heavyweight relied on point fighting to beat an untrained and unprepared middleweight. Cormier does himself no favours.
 
Silva did more damage in like 20 seconds the fight was standing than DC did in 14 minutes of laying on Silva.

DC looked bad standing.
 
Kevlar44 said:
I'm not a fan of anyone, i'm a fan of fighting and common sense. I doubt Cormier hand picked him, the UFC certainly wanted Silva's name attached to the card if Jones couldn't be. I don't think it was an amazing performance i just recognize Silva has an excellent guard, he showed massive improvement in the second Sonnen fight. Cormier was trying and he won decisively, nobody can outstrike Silva still. Weidman didn't, he beat him everywhere else and landed the KO due to clowning, Diaz couldn't, and Bisping only beat him due to inactivity on Silva's part as he looked for the KO.
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I'm just joking around bro.

But in my honest opinion, I really do believe DC underperformed to secure an extremely safe win. At least we can agree his performance wasn't amazing at all. But he was indeed hand picked by both the UFC and DC. DC had the luxury of accepting the fight or not, the UFC didn't force him after the whole Jon Jones ordeal. If he didn't want to risk being Bisping'd, he shouldn't of accepted the fight if he planned on coasting out a neutral victory.

I'm not here to argue whether or DC should stand and trade with Silva. It isn't my point I'm trying to make. And Although I don't believe the mantra "Nobody will win a striking battle with Silva", I will just leave that alone.

I agree his guard excellent, there is no denying that. However, there is no excuse to initiate a take down, establish top control and refuse to advance your position or try and ground and pound. He just wanted to minimize any risk and ride out a decision.

Believe it or not, I am big DC fan, all the day back to Strikeforce. He has put on some amazing performances. He was a killer that didn't hold back. Then there was that bad performance against Frank Mir, which most people forgave him for. Next he talked smack about Jon Jones, only to go into auto pilot and lose. His fight against Gus was great, so was his comeback vs Rumble.

I am still a fan. I just think this was a terrible performance on all scales. He had practically every advantage coming to this fight, including being the current champion of a higher division. It just wasn't good for him, the UFC or the fans. But,... what do I know?
 
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