Dana's Unwritten Rule

[Cartiac]

by unwritten rule, you mean official written, mutually signed, legal contract, right?

 

[Poatan Power]

It's Thursday. Dana said Saturday. We don't even know how this all comes to a conclusion to make our final assertion yet.

 

[goOb]

People are overthinking this.

Wonderboy will rescheduled soon and paid his full amount

I think he will be compensated most definitely. I do not believe it will be $250,000 though. The whole situation is crap to be honest. Wonderboy lost, the UFC lost and even Pereira did, although, he is really the guy to blame. Wonderboy is free to do what he wants with his career and I think he made the right choice. He is older and he is posturing for one last title run. I do hope that both parties can come to an amicable agreement and Wonderboy gets rescheduled as soon as possible. Hopefully, with an opponent that will take the fight as well as the weight cut seriously this time.

 

[chinarice]

UFC! UFC! UFC!

Dana White! Dana White! Dana White!

 

[Leonard Haid]

People lose their minds off of just about everything these days. Including things they have no context or understanding of. You really can’t take public opinion with any kind of seriousness.

I was going by two people's opinions, primarily: Wonderboy's, who's been involved ith the UFC first-hand for many years, and Ariel Helwani's. Ariel was outraged at Wonderboy's lack of compensation, and the guy has been MMA Journalist of the Year every year for what, the last 10 years? Gotta count for something, right? Except that he and Dana hate each other, so maybe this was a chance for Ariel to stab Dana one more time.

 

[Thatlookinhiseyes]

Jon Jones opted not to fight Chael when Dan Henderson pulled out. He didnt get paid shit,cos he didnt fight. He knew.

The difference is wonderboy made weight. This example and a lot others are of pullouts before they get on the scale.

imo their needs to be a harsher penalty for missing weight. Maybe say start at 20 or 30% and every pound over, it’s an extra 15%.

in wonderboys it’s case it wasn’t feasible to take the fight. The statistics when a fighter does t make weight majorly favour him to win. And wonderboy makes more money than peirera. Way more. So 20% of his purse is far far less than potentially losing 50% of his pay for. Loss. With a guy like Michel, he is a big dude who cuts a lot of weight, and uses a lot of energy doing flashy moves. He has slowed down on the moves but still does them. So not making weight is a huge advantage for his cardio. The risk far outweighed the reward. If he got fined 20% of his purse, would Michel
Have tried harder to make weight? Would that bring the reward up higher for wonderboy to make weight? I Duno but i think you would see a lot less guys not making weight, or pulling out earlier al together

 

[Objectively Correct]

Threads like these are magnets to bootlickers

 

[Tweak896]

Paying Wonderboy actually isn't enough. Now that this tactic is exposed in public, the fighters should all take the UFC to court and UFC should pay every fighter that made weight and their opponent missed and the fight was cancelled. These fighters need to stick up against the complete control the UFC has.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Not that UFC would ever agree to it, but guys should have contingency clauses in their contracts for opponents pulling out or missing weight.

 

[HaulParris]

It's a situation that makes the UFC looks bad, and the fact that they have Dana as the spokesperson only makes it look even more bush-league than it already is.

 

[Ozze]

It's not really an unwritten rule. Quite the contrary. You get paid after you fight, it's in the contract.

Usually they try to make a quick turnaround with the fighter. I don't know why this one with Wonderboy got so much traction.
This already happened dozen of times before.

Anyway, like I said in another post, managers should try to put this kind of situation in the contracts as well. To at least, cover the costs of the camp, travel, etc.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

There is an unwritten rule, to Dana, that even if your opponent misses weight, you either take the fight anyway, or take another fight ASAP. Many precedents have been set. Just recently, Khamzat missed weight by a whole lot, and Nate did the companyman thing and fought someone else on the same card. Most fighters still fight, accepting a percentage of their missed-weight opponent as compensation. What Wonderboy did in choosing not to fight Pereira was break Dana's unwritten rule. That's why he didn't get paid, even though he and a lot of people think he should have.

Opinions?

Well that is a cold take if i have ever seen one ( i may have just invented that term)

How does this make Dana bad? It makes perfect sense seeing as the fighter just went through a training camp and will ready and close to fight weight?

 

[WhiteMousse]

I'm starting to get the feeling that Dana has quite a few unwritten rules

 

[jjjjjjjjjjohnny]

i think its very complex and it may be all contract related with the fear that it establishes a precedent. two fighters agree to fight, don't make weight and still get paid? come on....

 

[Clark Rogers]

I'm legit mindblown by the number of you that think this is new, judging by the reaction to this situation and lack of reaction to the exact same ones before it.

Also just lol'ing at "Dana's unwritten rule" like you just cracked a secret code when anyone paying attention has both seen and heard them talk about how they handle these situations numerous times in the past.

I'm not even defending it, I'm just saying quit with the fake 'new' outrage nonsense acting like you're putting magnifying glasses over new and terrible shit that has literally always been this way and should not be a surprise to anyone that has watched more than a single event in their life.

 

[nonoob]

I'm starting to get the feeling that Dana has quite a few unwritten rules

KNOWING quite a few unwritten rules, more than the crystals he allegedly snorted off of his driveway.

 

[Gamer2k4]

If it was so obvious then that Wonderboy wouldn't get paid, why are so many people in a uproar about it, as if it was shocking that he didn't get paid?

Two reasons: First, Sherdog's memory makes a goldfish's look eidetic, and second, Sherdog's follow-the-leader mentality makes lemmings look like independent thinkers.

In short, it's the trendy thing to whine about, and no one bothers to remember if it has or hasn't happened before.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

Conor Mcgregor: Hey Dana,RDA pulled outta da fight? Can u pay me? Cos I can make weight real easy. Just pull yez millions out,and i'll go home. What's the fookin difference?

Not that Dana would’ve paid him anyways, but Conor didn’t make weight for the RDA fight and then have RDA fail to make weight/pull-out the day before - Apples to Oranges comparison.

I see both sides - the UFC paid for a fight, the fighter already sunk a ton of time and money investing in a fight which is in jeopardy through no fault of their own.

It really should be in the contract that if the opponent misses weight by more than 1.5 lbs the fighter that did make weight should be able to pull out and get paid their show money.

It’s up to the fighter to gauge the risk/reward - what good is getting 20-30% of someone’s purse if they break your face because they didn’t make weight? You risk physical damage and financial damage (losing one fight affects all future earning capabilities that far exceeds a small percentage of one fight purse).

As usual the UFC wants to have all the leverage and have the fighters take all the risk…..is normal.

 

[checktheknuckles]

Fuck dana and his unwritten rules, what ever the fuck that is supposed to mean.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

If it was so obvious then that Wonderboy wouldn't get paid, why are so many people in a uproar about it, as if it was shocking that he didn't get paid?

Well sometimes, people discuss things in terms of "what should be," instead of just "what is" and the "what is" people love pretending that everything is "what is" and that's just being a realist, but denying the concept of "what should be" doesn't make those people seem mature like they want to seem, but instead look unimaginative, unempathetic, and just outright kinda fucking stupid