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Dana White on Arman: "You missed opportunities, and he did. We'll see how it plays out next year."

Peli said:


What does that mean? Was that a slip? or not plans for Arman in 2025? Maybe Dana is stuck in 2024?
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It means Arman knew he was too hurt to fight, yet he dragged everything out, making everyone think he was going to face Islam, then pulled out at the last second, making life difficult for Dana.

Like it or not, if you fuck Dana, Dana fucks you harder.
 
World eater said:
Arman already declined the first TS offered. It was understandable, as facing Islam on short notice is not a smart career move. But this last minute pull out? You can bet the UFC will make him pay for it. Look what the put Ank through.
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It makes me think that the ufc think it wasn't a legitimate pull out and he just couldn't make weight. Big oof.

I forgot that he had declined but wasn't that short notice? He wanted a full camp to prepare?
 
subtlySteve said:
It means Arman knew he was too hurt to fight, yet he dragged everything out, making everyone think he was going to face Islam, then pulled out at the last second, making life difficult for Dana.

Like it or not, if you fuck Dana, Dana fucks you harder.
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You could be right, but I'd throw another possibility into the mix. Arman was going to miss weight.

Arman really fucked himself in either case. He either trained irresponsibly or fucked up his nutrition.

He's a no-name to the casual PPV buyer, so I don't think he's ever getting anywhere NEAR the belt again since Dana's been on this carousel before with the Ferguson v Khabib shitshow.
 
Opportunity for what.. hang with the nelk boys, joe rogan, get low balled and thrown under the bus...

That said the fact more people were more excited about this replacement fight
than the arman one speaks volumes
 
BullyKutta said:
You could be right, but I'd throw another possibility into the mix. Arman was going to miss weight.

Arman really fucked himself in either case. He either trained irresponsibly or fucked up his nutrition.

He's a no-name to the casual PPV buyer, so I don't think he's ever getting anywhere NEAR the belt again since Dana's been on this carousel before with the Ferguson v Khabib shitshow.
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Dana pretty much hints at that, we got him checked out by a doctor, and that's something to ask Arman, not himself if Arman could have fought tonight.

Dana is always blowing bullshit but if true, that really sucks for Arman and wonder why did he do that. Even if he didn't make weight, he still could have fought. If the performance was a banger, I think Uncle Dana still gives him a second chance. A better chance than blowing up the card.
 
Peli said:
It makes me think that the ufc think it wasn't a legitimate pull out and he just couldn't make weight. Big oof.

I forgot that he had declined but wasn't that short notice? He wanted a full camp to prepare?
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When Dana announced the pull out on social media he said “Arman feels he can’t compete” or something like that, I immediately noticed the wording. Usually Dana says “X fighter is injured and can’t fight”. He def has his doubts.
 
Peli said:
It makes me think that the ufc think it wasn't a legitimate pull out and he just couldn't make weight. Big oof.

I forgot that he had declined but wasn't that short notice? He wanted a full camp to prepare?
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He might be thinking a lot of things. This is Islam back in April. UFC has to put a proverbial gun to his head to get him to accept and he pulls out last second.

"I'm not surprised [he turned it down] because this guy talks about rematch all his life, but... This is maybe the 3rd or 4th time UFC gave him a chance to fight me and he said no... The UFC told me 'We give you opponent after UFC 300' I knew if Arman beat Oliveira he [would] never take this fight."
 
Siver! said:
It means he is suspended and can't fight until 2026.

January-February OR July-August.
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Lol this speculation is great.

Tries to show out in front of Nina, he's scared, he failed a test, he couldn't make weight.
 
It actually kind of benefits Arman in a way. If he gave his neck up to Islam like he did three times against Charles he’d likely be submitted.

Islam is more skilled and about 5 years older at 33, but his reflexes are gradually slowing down. Arman will be 29 at best when he gets his next shot, so he will have improved a lot more in the next year, while Islam would start physically declining.
 
Pain4Pain said:
It actually kind of benefits Arman in a way. If he gave his neck up to Islam like he did three times against Charles he’d likely be submitted.

Islam is more skilled and about 5 years older at 33, but his reflexes are gradually slowing down. Arman will be 29 at best when he gets his next shot, so he will have improved a lot more in the next year, while Islam would start physically declining.
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Or he knows Islam wants to go to 170 and he'll never have to fight him
 
Domitian said:
Lol this speculation is great.

Tries to show out in front of Nina, he's scared, he failed a test, he couldn't make weight.
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I'm all about the dates for this kinda stuff lol

Jon Jones needing a perfect 3 years to move to heavyweight, lol, people buy into it
 
Pain4Pain said:
It actually kind of benefits Arman in a way. If he gave his neck up to Islam like he did three times against Charles he’d likely be submitted.

Islam is more skilled and about 5 years older at 33, but his reflexes are gradually slowing down. Arman will be 29 at best when he gets his next shot, so he will have improved a lot more in the next year, while Islam would start physically declining.
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Maybe.

Dana and the UFC are going to put Arman through the wringer now.

He's going to be offered a non-title fight next. And there's no guarantee that he's going to make it through that one.
 
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