Media Dana White gets called out for his absurd claims about Intermittent Fasting

[Poatan Power]

If you think keto and intermittent fasting aren't complete scams then I assure you I know a shit fuck ton more than you about improving one's health.

Intermittent fasting isn't a scam. It's just a means of nutrient restriction so you can maintain or cut calories.

It's basically skipping a meal at the end or beginning of the day. It really isn't that complicated.

I do it in the winter when work gets busy so I stay sharp at work, don't get that post-meal haze and don't snack all day at work and end up going over my calorie goal.

Let's hear why you think keto, intermittent fasting, or whatever other scam you've fallen for works better than calories in vs calories out.

Which is all those scams are forcing the average person to do for once in their life.

Dying to hear your expertise.

Well it's very simple. With keto, you're going to have less glycogen in your body and less water stored with the lack of glycogen, so you'll weigh less. That's fairly simple.

If I only eat 8 hours in a day, I'm very satiated during that 8 hours and am less likely to over eat.

It isn't a matter of "better than calories in calories out." They're just tools to accomplish goals.

It's very easy to get a client in a calorie deficit, but it's even easier if you use IF and they adhere to it. Keto isn't my thing, but if your goal is to weigh less and athletic performance isn't the top priority, I could see it having value. Plus, everyone likes cheese.

In any event, in order for there to be a "scam" there has to be something gaining something. Nobody is gaining anything from me not eating for a period of time other than my body.

 

[Copper Burner]

If you think keto and intermittent fasting aren't complete scams then I assure you I know a shit fuck ton more than you about improving one's health.

I don't think you know what scam means. Keto, or being in ketosis is your body literally burning fat for fuel. Back in the day, being strict on Atkins would melt fat off anyone's body.

On a week to week basis, If a person ate the same amount of calories on a carnivore diet vs a regular diet filled with carbs, sugar etc, the person eating carnivore is going to be leaner.

You sound very close minded. Next you will tell us chiropractic is a scam. You sound like you don't know shit.

 

[nately]

Called out by a YouTuber who lies about using steroids and being a doctor.

 

[markg171]

People make things difficult. It’s always calories in then out.

I have a standing bet with all my friends who fall for these diet scams that I'll eat a frozen pizza every day for month and still lose weight.

If I do they need to pay for all the pizzas. If I don't, well I'm already out $200.

None of them ever take it.

I have the same problem right now.. lol

especially since I can't digest dairy

If you can do whey, It's not too bad.

Use egg white protein if you can't handle whey.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

I have the same problem right now.. lol

especially since I can't digest dairy

If you can do whey, It's not too bad.

Whey FTFW. I always drink 1 protein shake between lunch and dinner. Game changer to cut fat. It's about 25 grams of protein for 125 calories.

Before I had to eat 3 eggs and some bread or coffee with milk. Not only I would feel heavy after that but it was like 400 calories.

 

[Here's Johnny!]

Not just snacking, but probably thinking they're eating healthily when they're not.

The one that gets used constantly is low fat yogurts... with their high sugar content.

It's easy for people to get tricked, sure.

That doesn't make intermittent fasting particularly 'clever', but whatever.

The other one is drinks. You can get obese by drinking badly very easily indeed.

Facts... sweet tea here in texas is like 600 calories a cup of pure sugar

 

[markg171]

Intermittent fasting isn't a scam. It's just a means of nutrient restriction so you can maintain or cut calories.

Hence why it's a scam as what's working is cutting down on your calories. Not when you're eating.

Intermittent fasting does nothing if you then just go and eat more than your maintenance.

Well it's very simple. With keto, you're going to have less glycogen in your body and less water stored with the lack of glycogen, so you'll weigh less. That's fairly simple.

Hence why it's a scam as that's not fat loss.

Having less glycogen and water in your body is why Dana and all these keto bros always look flat. Your body needs these things for a reason.

In any event, in order for there to be a "scam" there has to be something gaining something. Nobody is gaining anything from me not eating for a period of time other than my body.

You mean like Garry Grecka who's making money off Dana doing this as well as spreading it to all his followers so they buy his programs too?

There are plenty of people scamming millions of people into thinking their methods are what "secretly" works because telling people watching how much they eat doesn't make them any money.

 

[Ballsaque]

Intermittent fasting is completely unnecessary. dont listen to the keto loonies and eat your carbs.

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Intermitten fasting has nothing to do with not eating carbs, mate

 

[Colemanstove]

Cause it's telling people that the way to lose fat is to fast for a certain period of time / only eat in a certain period of time which is completely false.

The only way to lose fat is calories in vs calories out. That's it. You can eat whenever and whatever you want so long as it's less than your body's maintenance calories and you'll lose weight.

It's easy to eat in a calorie deficit while fasting.
Especially for the average person who doesn't want to count calories and also is likely to fuck that up.

 

[markg171]

I don't think you know what scam means. Keto, or being in ketosis is your body literally burning fat for fuel.

Which will do nothing to make you lose fat or improve your health unless you're eating less food.

Keto does nothing for you if you're still eating maintenance or over. Using fat for fuel is irrelevant, you'll have the same or more levels of fat.

Back in the day, being strict on Atkins would melt fat off anyone's body.

Atkins works because they're in fact tracking their calories. Literally what do you think you're doing if you're told you can't have more than 100g of carbs? 1g of carbs = 4 calories.

Congrats, you've potentially eliminated 400 calories. Do that every day for a week and that nearly 1lb of fat.

Atkins is a scam.

On a week to week basis, If a person ate the same amount of calories on a carnivore diet vs a regular diet filled with carbs, sugar etc, the person eating carnivore is going to be leaner.

They would weigh less because they have less glycogen and water stored in their body. Not less fat.

The only way that happens is a calorie deficit.

 

[AstralPanda]

I have a standing bet with all my friends who fall for these diet scams that I'll eat a frozen pizza every day for month and still lose weight.

If I do they need to pay for all the pizzas. If I don't, well I'm already out $200.

None of them ever take it.

Use egg white protein if you can't handle whey.

yeah, I do eggs / raw eggs. But still, the convenience of whey is real.

looking into cricket protein or something like that

 

[markg171]

It's easy to eat in a calorie deficit while fasting.
Especially for the average person who doesn't want to count calories and also is likely to fuck that up.

These are contrary to one another.

Hence why the only way that works is to actually track how much you're eating.

 

[markg171]

yeah, I do eggs / raw eggs. But still, the convenience of whey is real.

looking into cricket protein or something like that

No I mean there's literally egg white protein powders you can just buy instead for your shakes and recipes.

https://canadianprotein.com/products/egg-white-protein-powder

Not sure if you're Canadian but this brand is legit and all their products are fantastically clean.

But yeah, no need to actually guzzle eggs or cricket powder. There's egg powders instead just like whey powders. You can find them everywhere once you know they exist too.

 

[Copper Burner]

If you think keto and intermittent fasting aren't complete scams then I assure you I know a shit fuck ton more than you about improving one's health.

I don't think you know what scam means. Keto, or being in ketosis is your body literally burning fat for fuel. Back in the day, being strict on Atkins would melt fat off anyone's body.

On a week to week basis, If a person ate the same amount of calories on a carnivore diet vs a regular diet filled with carbs, sugar etc, the person eating carnivore is going to be leaner. Plus carnivore has helped many cure previous uncurable conditions.

You sound very close minded. Next you will tell us chiropractic is a scam. You sound like you don't know shit.

Which will do nothing to make you lose fat or improve your health unless you're eating less food.

Keto does nothing for you if you're still eating maintenance or over. Using fat for fuel is irrelevant, you'll have the same or more levels of fat.

Atkins works because they're in fact tracking their calories. Literally what do you think you're doing if you're told you can't have more than 100g of carbs? 1g of carbs = 4 calories.

Congrats, you've potentially eliminated 400 calories. Do that every day for a week and that nearly 1lb of fat.

Atkins is a scam.

They would weigh less because they have less glycogen and water stored in their body. Not less fat.

The only way that happens is a calorie deficit.

Funny, I myself have done Atkins for 3 months, ate steak egg and cheese omelets daily along with 2 or 3lbs of steak/ground beef/ meat soaked in loads of butter. The fat melted off my body. I have personally witnessed others success with it also.

You come off as a fat, angry uneducated slob.

 

[Here's Johnny!]

Which will do nothing to make you lose fat or improve your health unless you're eating less food.

Keto does nothing for you if you're still eating maintenance or over. Using fat for fuel is irrelevant, you'll have the same or more levels of fat.

Atkins works because they're in fact tracking their calories. Literally what do you think you're doing if you're told you can't have more than 100g of carbs? 1g of carbs = 4 calories.

Congrats, you've potentially eliminated 400 calories. Do that every day for a week and that nearly 1lb of fat.

Atkins is a scam.

They would weigh less because they have less glycogen and water stored in their body. Not less fat.

The only way that happens is a calorie deficit.

The reason keto works is similar to fasting... its VERY hard to eat 3000 calories of vegetables and meat... calorie dense foods are mostly carbs that don't fill you digest easily and leave your stomach empty for more calories.... plus you just removed all sugars which is 90% of most peoples problems.


Which does make it a bit of a scam because they are tricking people into eating less calories without even telling them that they are cutting calories.

Plus your body burns calories digesting fats and proteins and it doesn't have to do anything to absorb that coca cola.

 

[Slapjit]

In my old country, we as a nation was hold arm together in our version of intermittent fast (FIF). Due to supplement shortage in 90s, we was having been decided that instead of focus on building strong back and leg performance and eat many good foods, we cut weight for aesthetic in order to stay productive in this trying time. We commit to our leader that we will only eat 1, maybe 2 meal per day in order to acheive this goal in unity. I lose many much fat and I was feel #VeryGreat...even indulge in #PotatoTaffy in time and time hihihi

Anywhat, any diet was work. Everything was corrupt so is why nothing make sense. You just eat less but always healthy and you commit to life of labor and you was been ok all my #UFCFriend

#GloriousGains #ForcedIntermittentFasting #ArduousMass

 

[markg171]

The reason keto works is similar to fasting... its VERY hard to eat 3000 calories of vegetables and meat... calorie dense foods are mostly carbs that don't fill you digest easily and leave your stomach empty for more calories.... plus you just removed all sugars which is 90% of most peoples problems.


Which does make it a bit of a scam because they are tricking people into eating less calories without even telling them that they are cutting calories.

Plus your body burns calories digesting fats and proteins and it doesn't have to do anything to absorb that coca cola.

Keto "works" because people are told what macros to hit to try and reach ketosis and then actually count them for once in their life in their attempt to reach ketosis.

Whether they actually do reach ketosis is irrelevant to their fat loss as macros have set calories. Hitting set macros of however many fats, proteins, and carbs is literally just calorie counting without telling them that's all they're doing.

Hence why it's a scam.

 

[Here's Johnny!]

Keto "works" because people are told what macros to hit to try and reach ketosis and then actually count them for once in their life in their attempt to reach ketosis.

Whether they actually do reach ketosis is irrelevant to their fat loss as macros have set calories. Hitting set macros of however many fats, proteins, and carbs is literally just calorie counting without telling them that's all they're doing.

Hence why it's a scam.

You seem to have a very big issue with people being unintelligent... I have often had the same problem.... its something that will shock you more year over year.... convincing people to do work under a set of rules they can follow isn't a scam it's the basis for business.


So are the diets of Keto or Intermittent fastings scams? I'd say no... But, are they manipulating people into doing something that is beneficial? Probably yes...

Is it for you or me? No... im assuming you are like me and under 20% body fat with a healthy amount of muscle....


These diets, while extreme, do help uneducated people lose weight...

Hell, I could develop a panda express only diet, that if you followed exactly you would get your macros and lose weight while gaining muscle if you followed my workout routine...


Would it be ideal ? No but if you followed it, it would work.

 

[TheBulge]

When I'm cutting, I do intermittent fasting, only because I can easily go 6 plus hours without eating and I like to save more calories post training

What you eat and how much is by far the most important and way more important than the timing

Also Imo, the following are not healthy, or at least optimal

Vegans
Keto
Carnivore diet

I understand if someone is against eating meat by life choice, but it's not healthier no matter what way they spin it

Likewise, cutting out vegetables is just retarded. There are so many benefits to eating heaps of vegetables and obviously they full you up with less calories

Balance is key and finding out what works for you. But no way would I eliminate carbs, fat or of course protein.

Preferably I prefer lower carbs and a little more fat in my diet, but I do tend to cycle them. Carbs will be a little lower some days while fat is higher and protein stays relatively similar

No offense, what is your purpose. When I was younger I used to give a shit about my diet and all the details. Tried all the diets to see how my body responded, what type of training gave me the best physique etc. It's like a fun adventure when you're a kid but at a certain point it becomes a waste of time and I think you should stop caring that much if you're at a relatively healthy weight. Except for if you're an athlete atleast at some professional level.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

No offense, what is your purpose. When I was younger I used to give a shit about my diet and all the details. Tried all the diets to see how my body responded, what type of training gave me the best physique etc. It's like a fun adventure when you're a kid but at a certain point it becomes a waste of time and I think you should stop caring that much if you're at a relatively healthy weight. Except for if you're an athlete atleast at some professional level.

Because I'm not at an optimal weight
I'm not trying to be shredded, but I want to be relatively lean, fit and healthy

I'll be much healthier weighing under 210 than I do now