Dana hinting CCC wanted a way out is a sh*t move and the UFC needs to do better with that ruleset

[DiazSlap]

A messed and grey part in the sport is when a fighter gets poked in the eye and can't continue to fight. There becomes instant questions around weather or not the figher was gaming the system to get out of the fight or using it to try and win the fight. CCC as we now know had a legit eye injury and the fans boo'd him out of assumption he was faking it and then Dana in the post fight presser fueled that narrative. Even the ref was pushing CCC to continue, CCC even told the ref after the round 3 bell he couldn't see which should have been stopped at that second but he played stupid and CCC had to keep bringing it up.

The UFC needs to think of ways to fix this, they clearly can't stop the eye pokes in the sports but they can fix the clarity of what happens afterwards. There is no perfect world but what i think should happen is:

If an eye poke happens and the fight is stopped and it's going to judges they need to look at how the fighter was holding their hands, if they were pawing outwards with it aka Jon Jones style then there is no way that fighter should be allowed a W, if the fight goes to the scorecards and they were to get the W then it should be a no contest since they took away a chance for the other fighter to come back but if the other fighter was winning then they should keep that win. CCC / someone shouldn't be punished for being fouled intential or not. If the eye poke was unavoidable and not from someone pawing out then that could be looked at as it was on the weekend.

No answer needed friend, Joe Rogan will tell you that this is high-level MMA and therefore you should SU and just pay the $89.99 to watch Merab hump another little person for 25 minutes.

 

[Tweak896]

UFC is scared to death about being harsh about fouls because it's going to mean that these fighters could end up rematching. Which normally shouldn't be a big deal, but fighters fight maybe once or twice if we're lucky a year. Essentially wasting a full year on an eye poke or nut kick.

 

[Alpha_T83]

I feel like to perhaps prevent the frequency of eye pokes, if it's a one off accident, then you get a warning, but if you're a repeat offender, then even if it's a different fight, you get deducted a point.

Absolutely. There needs to be an official record of every eye poke and the foul count needs to carry over between fights. The fighters need to feel much more pressure to avoid eye pokes.

Also the athletic commission needs to pass a rule that eye poke point deductions are automatic if the 2nd eye poke (and on) for 2+ eye pokes in consecutive fights, and that these point deductions can be assessed after the judges decision. Meaning the day after the fight, the NSAC could asses point deductions which changes the winner of the fight.

We need post-hoc video review for fouls in MMA.

 

[Psychojoe86]

Fight should have been a tko win for song by retirement.

Cejudo said he could see just before the 5 mins were up, therefore he acknowledged that his eye sight was fine.

After round 3 ended, Cejudo suddenly changed his mind and said he could NOT see.

If Cejudo eyesight was damaged even after the 5 mins were up, then fight should have immediately been called a no contest.

Since Cejudo acknowledged that he could see again before the 5 mins, the foul is over and done with. Cejudo loses the fight by tko retirement

 

[TriangleMonkey]

I can’t watch the post-pressers anymore really


First thing Dana does at these things is straight promote Power-Slap

He gets a Power-Slap bottle or cup immediately put in front of him at a UFC event then when a reporter mentions that gawd-awful promotion his eye’s light up like a child on Christmas


He dgaf about any of these mma fighters, or anyone for that matter

He wants what every greedy employer wants, extremely loyal employees, that never complain about cheap-pay

 

[treelo]

eye poke fix, make the fight a no contest and pay them half

soon see it stop

 

[El Fernas]

Pressure maybe, but i believe Cejudo played himself on that one, similar to Weidman vs Moussasi (iirc) where he thought he got fouled and quit only to lose the fight as they were considered legal, Chris Barnett was losing a fight, got fouled, thinks he will get the DQ win, once he gets told it will go to the scorecards and he will lose then he is all good to continue, Cejudo thought he was winning the fight and wanted the round to finish so he could get the decision win on the scorecards, he shouldnt had continue fighting, they all should do the same until the pressure is on the guy doing the foul, not the victim.

 

[Meathead Jock]

No answer needed friend, Joe Rogan will tell you that this is high-level MMA and therefore you should SU and just pay the $89.99 to watch Merab hump another little person for 25 minutes.

I love bashing Joe with the rest of you but I still can't get behind the though Merab is a boring fighter. Belal? Sure. But Merab is very exciting even though he doesn't finish fights.

 

[Meathead Jock]

Fight should have been a tko win for song by retirement.

Cejudo said he could see just before the 5 mins were up, therefore he acknowledged that his eye sight was fine.

After round 3 ended, Cejudo suddenly changed his mind and said he could NOT see.

If Cejudo eyesight was damaged even after the 5 mins were up, then fight should have immediately been called a no contest.

Since Cejudo acknowledged that he could see again before the 5 mins, the foul is over and done with. Cejudo loses the fight by tko retirement

Or it was blurry and in a high pressure moment he assumed would get better and it didn't. His eye was visibly messed up. Cejudo handled it wrong in the moment but he shouldn't have been given the option should be a no contest.

 

[Azure]

Regardless of what Dana said.. Which is his opinion.

Cejudo was trying to play games

 

[Psychojoe86]

Or it was blurry and in a high pressure moment he assumed would get better and it didn't. His eye was visibly messed up. Cejudo handled it wrong in the moment but he shouldn't have been given the option should be a no contest.

IMO Cejudo knew what he was doing. He had 4 minutes and 54 seconds to plan how he was going to move. His goal was to make it to the end of the round, scream out that he couldn’t see very publicly, and urge the ref to take a point or dq Song.

He gambled and failed.

 

[shunyata]

I got a shitload of hate for saying this when it went down, but I don't think it was a foul.

Song's fingers were upward pointing and his hand was held still in the air at the moment of impact.

Cejudo threw an overhand punch and dropped his head hard, crashing his face into Song's hand.

Song did nothing wrong, Cejudo headbutted Song's fingers.

This was not a Jone Jones / Bruce Lee finger jab to the eye.

 

[Fact Checker]

Herzog is a corrupt paid UFC puppet.


For all the fucktards claiming Cejudo was faking the multiple eyepokes:

 

[flektarn]

Song is kind of a POS that fouls heavily in every fight he's in. Standard team alpha male shit to be honest.
CCC played this bad, though.

 

[Meathead Jock]

I got a shitload of hate for saying this when it went down, but I don't think it was a foul.

Song's fingers were upward pointing and his hand was held still in the air at the moment of impact.

Cejudo threw an overhand punch and dropped his head hard, crashing his face into Song's hand.

Song did nothing wrong, Cejudo headbutted Song's fingers.

This was not a Jone Jones / Bruce Lee finger jab to the eye.

Song coming back out with his fingers extended was ridiculous

 

[Hog-train]

The UFC needs to think of ways to fix this, they clearly can't stop the eye pokes in the sports but they can fix the clarity of what happens afterwards. There is no perfect world but what i think should happen is:

But they can stop it. Just change the gloves.

 

[Howard Moon]

He gambled and failed.

Story of his life.

"I'll do a fake retirement. Dana will beg me to come back, and pay me millions."

Little Henry has never been as smart as he thinks he is.

 

[Howard Moon]

But they can stop it. Just change the gloves.

Just enforce the goddamned rules. Take points for fouls. It isn't the ref's fault if a fight ends in a DQ or NC or a tie, it is the cheater's fault.

 

[Hog-train]

Just enforce the goddamned rules. Take points for fouls. It isn't the ref's fault if a fight ends in a DQ or NC or a tie, it is the cheater's fault.

One Championship gets far less eye pokes because of their gloves.

 

[Howard Moon]

One Championship gets far less eye pokes because of their gloves.

Not disputing that, but there are many, many UFC fighters who have never eye-poked anyone.

Most of the fouls come from repeat offenders.
Start taking points and watch how fast those fists close and the cage grabs stop.