Dana’s “one foot out the door” policy doesn’t apply to Jones it seems

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Jon’s refusal to fight undeniable contenders citing their youth and size advantage is evidence of his dwindling desire to compete. How many times in the past have we heard Dana calling for fighters to retire because they’re seemingly not fully committed

Expect even more glazing from Dana for Jones now that Conor has gone under too. People said I was being silly when I mentioned that it’s no suprise that Dana has gone all in on Jones seeing that Usada has gone — he’s a risk free asset now
 
I still think it's because a young Jon Jones on his initial contracts somewhere signed away his image rights, which would mean the company only makes money if he's "the retired GOAT" not if he goes down like everyone else.

They aren't making a lot of money of Chuck Liddell merch anymore, he's just another guy in the lineal title line, and he was much more popular than Bones. They're hoping Jon now retires without issue and his "goat" merch is an evergreen seller, sort of like Jordan jerseys are still sold today.

It would explain the constant glazing, allowing him to duck, seemingly lenient historical enforcement against Jon's drug use. Jon is a homegrown star for the UFC, and if they own his image forever and can make money off him long after he's retired with some petty, residual royalties given to Jon to fund whatever it is he's going to do after fighting.
 
You people act like Jon has refused to fight Tom for months and months. His contract was to fight Stipe, and he did. Now there will be negotiations for him to fight Tom, if he doesn't you have a real complaint but that time hasn't past as of yet.

Dana is a promoter and to be honest so is Jon, they did their jobs to promote the Stipe fight, next up is Tom. When Jon destroys him will you all be saying that the HW division is just too weak and Jon proved nothing or will you accept he is the GOAT.
 
How many times in the past have we heard Dana calling for fighters to retire because they’re seemingly not fully committed

You tell me bro, how many times have you heard Dana call for a fighter to retire? I only ever heard of him asking Chuck Lidell to stop fighting because they were close personal friends. I also remember Dana saying people have asked him to tell their friend to stop fighting and Dana tell them he will not do that because he is in the business of making fights not stopping guys from fighting. Can you share any others he has told to quit?
 
You tell me bro, how many times have you heard Dana call for a fighter to retire? I only ever heard of him asking Chuck Lidell to stop fighting because they were close personal friends. I also remember Dana saying people have asked him to tell their friend to stop fighting and Dana tell them he will not do that because he is in the business of making fights not stopping guys from fighting. Can you share any others he has told to quit?

In recent memory Ferguson, Weidman, Holly Holm
 
The more I see the more I think we've all been played.

This has been the plan all along and they have spent the last few months building a storyline. They kept the Stipe fight for a warm up after the injury but started selling the Aspinall fight last Spring. Dana wasn't wrong when he said this could be the biggest HW fight in history.
 
The more I see the more I think we've all been played.

This has been the plan all along and they have spent the last few months building a storyline. They kept the Stipe fight for a warm up after the injury but started selling the Aspinall fight last Spring. Dana wasn't wrong when he said this could be the biggest HW fight in history.
Jones ducks. Mark my words.
 
The "one-foot-out-the-door" policy will always take a back seat to the "lotsa-money-in-the-wallet" policy. He won't shoo away someone who's still a considerable draw. Do you remember him desperately trying to woo Khabib back after he retired? Shit was pathetic, I wanted to scream "dude he's just not that into you!"
 
I still think it's because a young Jon Jones on his initial contracts somewhere signed away his image rights, which would mean the company only makes money if he's "the retired GOAT" not if he goes down like everyone else.

They aren't making a lot of money of Chuck Liddell merch anymore, he's just another guy in the lineal title line, and he was much more popular than Bones. They're hoping Jon now retires without issue and his "goat" merch is an evergreen seller, sort of like Jordan jerseys are still sold today.

It would explain the constant glazing, allowing him to duck, seemingly lenient historical enforcement against Jon's drug use. Jon is a homegrown star for the UFC, and if they own his image forever and can make money off him long after he's retired with some petty, residual royalties given to Jon to fund whatever it is he's going to do after fighting.
That's sad.
Join should be paid for that, unbelievable.
 
You people act like Jon has refused to fight Tom for months and months. His contract was to fight Stipe, and he did. Now there will be negotiations for him to fight Tom, if he doesn't you have a real complaint but that time hasn't past as of yet.

Dana is a promoter and to be honest so is Jon, they did their jobs to promote the Stipe fight, next up is Tom. When Jon destroys him will you all be saying that the HW division is just too weak and Jon proved nothing or will you accept he is the GOAT.
Dana has said repeatedly that anyone thinking of retirement should just retire.

Jon has been teasing retirement and explicitly saying for a while that he only wanted to fight Stipe then retire.

The rest of your protection, you can go cry about in the other 5000 threads about Jones ducking legitimate contenders
 
In recent memory Ferguson, Weidman, Holly Holm
He says it in general basically any time a fighter says they're thinking about it. He's very consistent on it. I believe he said it addressing GSP before too.

Directly quoting him on Miesha Tate:

"In this sport, when you start thinking about retiring, you should retire. Miesha probably should retire if that's what Miesha is thinking right now. It's probably a good idea."

When Anderson brought up possibly retiring:

"You know my philosophy on that: If you ever say the ‘R’ word, you should probably do it, anyway. If you’re considering retirement, you should probably do it.”
 
Jon’s refusal to fight undeniable contenders citing their youth and size advantage is evidence of his dwindling desire to compete. How many times in the past have we heard Dana calling for fighters to retire because they’re seemingly not fully committed

Expect even more glazing from Dana for Jones now that Conor has gone under too. People said I was being silly when I mentioned that it’s no suprise that Dana has gone all in on Jones seeing that Usada has gone — he’s a risk free asset now
Jones has said he will continue fighting. How do you know the next fight won't be with Aspinall?? If the UFC anti's up and the pay is right, that fight could very well happen. Cormier and Rampage have said recently, that NO WAY is Jones afraid of Tom. Those 2 guys are legends, and I respect their opinions. If he fights Pereira next, that would be a great fight too. To me, its just as interesting as the Aspinall fight.
 
From a media perspective it may seem that way but Jon has been this way since he went to HW. He doesn't press on commitment to fights but to me it appears he is making his decisions and just isn't sharing them.
 
Jones has said he will continue fighting. How do you know the next fight won't be with Aspinall?? If the UFC anti's up and the pay is right, that fight could very well happen. Cormier and Rampage have said recently, that NO WAY is Jones afraid of Tom. Those 2 guys are legends, and I respect their opinions. If he fights Pereira next, that would be a great fight too. To me, its just as interesting as the Aspinall fight.
We should listen to Jon since he changed his tune from retiring to fighting again, but we shouldn't listen to Jon when he said he will NEVER fight Tom
 
Some of you don’t understand how business and fight hype work. Let me save you a long lesson. Simply HW has nothing and the only reason you are salivating over HW is Jon MF Jones
 

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