Crime Dallas Officer Kills Man in Apartment "She Thought Was Hers"

[Strychnine]

Yeah, they get two weeks paid leave and you stop following or their was more information you conveniently leave out and cry outrage over. It happens all the time. I might be rude but the fact is every fucking time I've clarified myself people coming from your side never want an actual discussion. They want their team to get points. I don't even have a side here. Everyone thinks im so pro Trump despite the fact I'm fairly neutral on the guy. Just because I don't throw a shit fit every time something requires thought I'm against someone or some ideology. It's tiresome. Before you say political leanings don't matter, they most certainly do. Just look at the same posters spewing the same shit, over and over.

I see where you're coming from but I assure you I'm not here to score any points. I call balls and strikes. When a cop is given paid leave for something that you or I would be beaten to the death for... That's wrong. When a civilian is killed by a cop we're always told "Well, what did he/she SAY to the cop?"

When a cop is on VIDEO doing something blatantly wrong, we're told "Well, we don't know what the situation was." This TO ME seems like a clear cut case of manslaughter at the MINIMUM. But I'm more than willing to see how this is meted out in the courts. If you can't engage with me without anger, then that's on you because I'm not the one hurling insults at you.

 

[Madmick]

I see where you're coming from but I assure you I'm not here to score any points. I call balls and strikes. When a cop is given paid leave for something that you or I would be beaten to the death for... That's wrong. When a civilian is killed by a cop we're always told "Well, what did he/she SAY to the cop?"

When a cop is on VIDEO doing something blatantly wrong, we're told "Well, we don't know what the situation was." This TO ME seems like a clear cut case of manslaughter at the MINIMUM. But I'm more than willing to see how this is meted out in the courts. If you can't engage with me without anger, then that's on you because I'm not the one hurling insults at you.

This is the hyperbolic mindset consuming this thread that alienates me.

 

[MMABrooklyn]

Wow...
Cops need to be held to a higher standard since they have that power. Its not hard to prosecute them. They shoot someone in their own home for no reason? Jail/Death. Its not hard. As stated before "With great power comes great responsibility." Take responsibility for your actions that lead to an innocent mans death.
You can arrest her on the spot and still change charges as evidence is procured, like ANY OTHER PERSON.
According to you if a cop goes on a mass murder spree, dont arrest then let them walk, and wait on charges.... Insanity.
No someone shoots a person dead in their own home like this, they need to be arrested on the spot, its baffling you cop supporters are against this.

They don't arrest right away because they want to give the cop time to gather herself, get her story together, get he legal defense setup, etc.

 

[Andy Capp]

Because 8/10 of the times that anti-cop protesters act outraged at this premature stage the grand jury inquiry either ends up convicting the cop, or demonstrating the outrage to be founded on lies (i.e. Eric Brown).

Bring me your outrage when you have an actual miscarriage of justice. Nobody even really knows what happened, yet, so what makes you believe so strongly that the right thing won't be done? We begin with the presumption of innocence, we investigate, we hold trials, then we choose whether or not to convict. This thread is consumed by a a desire to convict the cops for police abuse and a miscarriage of justice before it has even been realized.

Yes, witness reports are taken into account at the scene. We have potentially conflicting witness reports.

This messiness is probably part of what contributed to a potential balk mishandling the situation.

I named you as a poster focused on the more rational question of why she wasn't immediately arrested. Sole Survivor is the pig-hunter.

But what about the other point? Do you care to rebut my reasoning in response to your opinion that police do not need to be held to a higher standard when it comes to weapons offences and/or intoxication?

 

[MicroBrew]

I thought she was being charged with manslaughter??

"The Texas Rangers are investigating and say they need more time to determine whether to charged her with a crime."

So SHE mistakenly goes into the guy's apartment and shoots him dead, and the authorities are trying to determine if a crime was committed??? As if the authorities would be "investigating" if a civilian, especially a Black man, mistakenly killed a White cop.

 

[nhbbear]

See if there is some bad blood between them? There are some serious issues at play in order for this stupid shit to happen. What a disgrace.

 

[dontsnitch]

But what about the other point? Do you care to rebut my reasoning in response to your opinion that police do not need to be held to a higher standard when it comes to weapons offences and/or intoxication?

I'm not exactly sure what your position is on this, but I never saw logic in entrusting a man with the safety of society, where he will naturally find himself in life-threatening situations where he needs to make split-second decisions, and then severely punish him if he makes a mistake. In the event his actions are not egregious, I advocate for leniency. Now, shoot someone in the back, or some obvious wrong like theft, then you should receive a much harsher sentence than your average man, that's basically Biblical.

 

[deadshot138]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/amber-guyger-named-dallas-officer-103229328.html

She’s been identified

 

[Quequeg]

Still not behind bars.

 

[Quequeg]

As she shouldn't be. As bad as this may seem, imagine if she missed the opening week of Football Sunday? That there would be the true crime so it's only right they let her roam free as they continue to investigate if there was a crime and what that crime may be.

Yep, the dead guy means nothing, she had a badge after all!

 

[Chris Kyle is a liar]

Shes gonna walk. Prosecutor will fumble the case, or we'll find out she was drunk (and everyone knows drunk women cant be held responsible for themselves)

One way or the other she'll be working a town over next year.

If she was on duty she would, but she was off duty so shes fucked.

 

[Leagon]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/amber-guyger-named-dallas-officer-103229328.html

She’s been identified

That's the same woman people on social media had pegged and they've found pictures of her with the victim. I guess it's possible that it isn't the same woman in the pictures, but this obvious murder is starting to look more obviously like murder.

 

[Andy Capp]

I'm not exactly sure what your position is on this, but I never saw logic in entrusting a man with the safety of society, where he will naturally find himself in life-threatening situations where he needs to make split-second decisions, and then severely punish him if he makes a mistake. In the event his actions are not egregious, I advocate for leniency. Now, shoot someone in the back, or some obvious wrong like theft, then you should receive a much harsher sentence than your average man, that's basically Biblical.

Then why don't you just read what I said? I thought it was pretty clear. To wit:

And yes, they do need to be held to a higher standard. They are issued a gun by the state. They absolutely have the additional responsibility to eschew intoxicants while armed. The punishment for any firearms offence should be magnified.

I would add that should be true whether drunk or sober.

 

[dontsnitch]

Then why don't you just read what I said? I thought it was pretty clear. To wit:

I would add that should be true whether drunk or sober.

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Then why don't you just read what I said? I thought it was pretty clear. To wit:

I would add that should be true whether drunk or sober.

Can you explain your reasoning? How do you go from issued a gun by the state to gun offences should be magnified?
It's funny cause I've come to the opposite conclusion.

 

[Gervais]

Any truth in that they dated before?

 

[Pessimystic]

Story reads like something out of The Onion.

 

[all caps]

Havent posted a steve video in a while. Hes live talking about this case right now.

 

[Strychnine]

This is the hyperbolic mindset consuming this thread that alienates me.

Yeah, because cops NEVER do any harm to a civilian after they arrest them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

 

[Andy Capp]

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Can you explain your reasoning? How do you go from issued a gun by the state to gun offences should be magnified?
It's funny cause I've come to the opposite conclusion.

You don't have to agree, but I think it says a lot about you that you don't get where I'm coming from. You must have never worn a uniform of any kind. Here goes.

For the sake of ease of pronouns, let's say you're the police officer in question. The State represents the people, and on their behalf you have been issued a weapon that is capable of killing with the understanding that it is only to be used in defence of the people or yourself or furtherance of those goals, e.g. practice.

You have the additional implicit responsibility to not compromise your ability to judge how to use that weapon since that might endanger yourself or those you are charged with defending. I have a hard time believing you really need this explained to you. Whether you're compromised due to taking cold medication, alcohol, or you pulled a muscle in your thumb and can't hold a gun, you have the responsibility to ensure that doesn't endanger you or anyone else.

 

[dontsnitch]

You don't have to agree, but I think it says a lot about you that you don't get where I'm coming from. You must have never worn a uniform of any kind. Here goes.

For the sake of ease of pronouns, let's say you're the police officer in question. The State represents the people, and on their behalf you have been issued a weapon that is capable of killing with the understanding that it is only to be used in defence of the people or yourself or furtherance of those goals, e.g. practice.

You have the additional implicit responsibility to not compromise your ability to judge how to use that weapon since that might endanger yourself or those you are charged with defending. I have a hard time believing you really need this explained to you. Whether you're compromised due to taking cold medication, alcohol, or you pulled a muscle in your thumb and can't hold a gun, you have the responsibility to ensure that doesn't endanger you or anyone else.

You sound offended that I deigned to ask for your perspective, get some manners friend.