Media D Johnson: I'm a greater fighter than GSP and Silva

TheBulge said:
Why is it not fair though? It's a fact that such small humans are very small in numbers, that means the amount of them who compete in MMA is laughably small. That means a lower level of competition, pretty easy logic to follow.

DJ's legacy is based on myth, on what if's. "Oh if they were the same size as". All hypothetical nonsense.

Funny thing is when he had the chance to actually prove how good he'd be against the bigger fighters he ducked and ran.
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everything you said about MM and his weight class is also true of HW, but we all still act like HW is the pinnacle.
 
krelianx said:
The little irrelevant man? What have you done in life?

And what do you think would happen in a fight between you and that irrelevant little man?
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He would break every bone in my body. And yet he is still nothing compared to Silva and GSP and no top 20 ATG. All of these things can be true at the same time.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
everything you said about MM and his weight class is also true of HW, but we all still act like HW is the pinnacle.
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They're not even remotely close to being the same.

Your arument is the equivelant of "No you!" from Jr. High.
 
TheBulge said:
They're not even remotely close to being the same.

Your arument is the equivelant of "No you!" from Jr. High.
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so you think there's lots of actual HWs? more than there are tiny manlets? i'd have to say you're wrong. given that like 1% of the world is 6'4 or taller and there's tons of +6'4 guys in HW.
 
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i mean he never got absolutely annihilated like gsp and silva did. his one loss by KO is due to some weird rule confusion and he fucking annihilated the guy (who was two weight classes larger) in a rematch.
 
TheBulge said:
It's a fact that such small humans are very small in numbers, that means the amount of them who compete in MMA is laughably small. That means a lower level of competition, pretty easy logic to follow.
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This is also true for the heavier weight classes...actually there are more FLWs and BWs than LHWs and HWs.
 
I can't look at DJ, particularly his freakishly short legs that look more like nubs, and put him on Mt. Rushmore with a straight face. Optics matter. He was a great little man fighter but there is a difference. The GOAT list shouldn't go below 145.
 
Doctor Grudge said:
This is shocking to some but athletes do not make the money they do by being historians or analyzing their sport, not to mention they have literal biases as they know the competitors and have stakes in it themselves. So their opinions on who the GOAT are should be taken with a grain of salt just like any one elses.

They're just as prone to saying inconsistent things as basement dwellers like "Rodtang is the goat MT fighter" (something MM literally said)
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Underrated post. Spot on
 
bongwater said:
gps got crushed like a bug by a manlet so that automatically dq him, he also couldn't beat prime matt hughes and had to wait till he was past his prime to get his win. Jones is the clear goat!
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That’s a very reductive way of looking at it.

You can spin anything into a negative framing it like that.
 
isnt IBJJF the one that the no gi guys make fun of becuase of how weak it is? I know gordon ryan has said something similar to that. Anyone know?
 
He’s up there, but so many of the guys he fought only had to win a few to get a shot, and a lot of them went on losing streaks after, I don’t remember the exact names but one guy only won 2 in the ufc, another only won 3, I know Tim elliott was 0-3 in the ufc before earning a shot on TUF, cariaso and a few others might have gone on a losing streak soon after? Maybe? i know kyoji only lost to DJ in the ufc which is very good.

He lost a decision to Brad Pickett who was almost as small as him while at bantamweight, he lost 50-45 to cruz despite cruz breaking his hand in the first round, he lost a close decision to cejudo, I’d have to rewatch it, then he lost to a onefc guy Adriano moraes which is a bad look

the division has like 30 something fighters in it even now, while even middleweight has like 65, and lightweight has about 90

this isn’t a thing people talk about just something I do myself, the power isn’t a big thing at flyweight but the speed and cardio is, then at heavyweight the power is huge but the cardio and speed is low, so personally I favour wins in featherweight and lightweight more cause it’s closer to a balance of different physical traits
 
mahavishnunj said:
As a fellow small guy, I have to agree with this. When I'm bigger than you at 5ft 5in, 130lbs, you cannot be on any GOAT lists.
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If you're 5'5', 130lbs, then you're smaller than DJ. DJ only weighed "125lbs" for a few minutes to weigh-in, then rehydrated to roughly 140-142lbs on fight night at flyweight. Now that's he's fighting at bantamweight, it's safe to assume he's 150-152 in the cage. When not in camp, he's likely a few pounds heavier than that.
 
Xanzito said:
I dont think it's fair to compare todays LHW wasteland to when Jones competed. Shogun, DC, Rampage... LHW was in a good place when Jones was tearing It appart.
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As I said.. I don't think Machida is better than Horiguchi or Rampage better than Dodson.

DC is by far Jones best win and I think he might be comparable with Henry Cejudo.
 
Old conversation.
Most males are light weight to middle weight sized when their bodyfat isn't couch potato like. There just isn't as much competition at the highest & lowest extremes of the UFC weight classes.
 
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