Locked Cyberpunk 2077 **Delayed**(Release: December 10th, 2020)

[Hitman81]

Man I taste the amount of salt in the video game forum recently.

 

[Dizzy]

Man I taste the amount of salt in the video game forum recently.

 

[blaseblah]

Lol at whining about graphics. The reception this game gets will have nothing to do with graphics or frame rate.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Lol at whining about graphics. The reception this game gets will have nothing to do with graphics or frame rate.

Actually, for mainstream consumers, graphics is the #1 factor of getting their attention, period.

Its sad, but true.

That's why all the new trailers of the consoles are showing off flashy cinematic trailers as their selling points for exclusives.

Mainstream audiences mostly don't care about all the character menus of JRPGs, the expected hours of how long it will take to beat the main campaign, or all the details that we hardcore gamers dive into when determining if we'll buy a game.

 

[blaseblah]

Actually, for mainstream consumers, graphics is the #1 factor of getting their attention, period.

Its sad, but true.

That's why all the new trailers of the consoles are showing off flashy cinematic trailers as their selling points for exclusives.

Mainstream audiences mostly don't care about all the character menus of JRPGs, the expected hours of how long it will take to beat the main campaign, or all the details that we hardcore gamers dive into when determining if we'll buy a game.

I don't know of any games that were sold by solely graphics. Witcher 3 had worse graphics than it's gameplay trailer and still was hugely successful.

It only has a negative effect if the graphics are bad. If it is on par with other games the quality of the game is more important

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

I don't know of any games that were sold by solely graphics. Witcher 3 had worse graphics than it's gameplay trailer and still was hugely successful.

It only has a negative effect if the graphics are bad. If it is on par with other games the quality of the game is more important

Off the top of my head I can think of two games where the graphics were the primary selling point, namely the original Unreal and Crysis. Unreal was marketed as a “Quake 2 killer” in graphics. As for Crysis, I’d expect that it’s reputation precedes it.

 

[blaseblah]

Off the top of my head I can think of two games where the graphics were the primary selling point, namely the original Unreal and Crysis. Unreal was marketed as a “Quake 2 killer” in graphics. As for Crysis, I’d expect that it’s reputation precedes it.

Crysis was specifically known for its graphics. It's not like it became a successful franchise.

 

[HereticBD]

Actually, for mainstream consumers, graphics is the #1 factor of getting their attention, period.

Its sad, but true.

Yes, but within reason. A large graphical upgrade that requires new hardware to run it, will get attention. The nickle and dime shit PC gamers go on and on about, isn't much of a needle mover. If the game runs fine enough on a basic HD set up, few are gonna look to optimize it to it's full potential.

 

[Madmick]

Downgraded graphics? Like less tracing on their rays?

It could be a thousand things. In the past it's probably been simplest for them to remove anti-aliasing effects, but I'm not sure they would have put any AA in at 4K in the first place.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I don't know of any games that were sold by solely graphics. Witcher 3 had worse graphics than it's gameplay trailer and still was hugely successful.

It wasn't a HUGE seller at first. It wasn't even in the Top 10 bought games of 2015, I believe. But as the expansions came out and the price lowered over the years it eventually sold 28+ million worldwide through word-of-mouth.

And the Netflix series dropping at the end of last year helped.

It only has a negative effect if the graphics are bad. If it is on par with other games the quality of the game is more important

'Bad' is a very relative term.

 

[Hitman81]

I bought a 4k TV for a reason, forgive me if I want my games to look as good as possible.

 

[blaseblah]

It wasn't a HUGE seller at first. It wasn't even in the Top 10 bought games of 2015, I believe. But as the expansions came out and the price lowered over the years it eventually sold 28+ million worldwide through word-of-mouth.

And the Netflix series dropping at the end of last year helped.



'Bad' is a very relative term.

The game got all kinds of awards and was considered great long before the Netflix series came out

 

[GearSolidMetal]

The game got all kinds of awards and was considered great long before the Netflix series came out

Yeah, but my point is that Witcher3 has consistently sold well over 5 years, as opposed to the vast majority of games selling well in the first week and they're in the bargin bin within a few months and quickly forgotten.

 

[Dizzy]

I bought a 4k TV for a reason, forgive me if I want my games to look as good as possible.

Unless you’re about 5 feet away you won’t notice a huge difference.

 

[90 50]

So it’s about to finally be here?

I think something bad might just accidentally happen to my 970 all of a sudden(the fuggin thing just wont die!!)

 

[Hitman81]

Unless you’re about 5 feet away you won’t notice a huge difference.

Fact: better is better.

 

[Dizzy]

Fact: better is better.

True but most people aren’t set up to notice it.

 

[method115]

They aren't little details once you have them, though. If gaming is important to you, and you've had the best, then going back to subpar is really hard.

Like how you've been dealing with an HDD for 5+ years while the rest of us know SSD speed. So when you guys get your XBox or PS5 and say "Wow, the loading times tho!" we'll be like "....really?"

I go back and forth between PC and console all the time. The difference is so little I don't care anymore. When I say it is little I realize there is a difference I just don't care enough maybe others would. In fact I just did this with Dragon Age Inquisition. Loaded up my PC and PS4 Pro and while the PC was clearly better I just didn't care much.

I've said it before but I'll say it again this is the first time I really don't care about graphics anymore. Things look great to me already across the board. Loading times and higher frames are the things I'm looking for and higher frames isn't even that big of an issue with me 30FPS hasn't ever really bothered me like it does PC players.

 

[The Diplomat]

I go back and forth between PC and console all the time. The difference is so little I don't care anymore. When I say it is little I realize there is a difference I just don't care enough maybe others would. In fact I just did this with Dragon Age Inquisition. Loaded up my PC and PS4 Pro and while the PC was clearly better I just didn't care much.

I've said it before but I'll say it again this is the first time I really don't care about graphics anymore. Things look great to me already across the board. Loading times and higher frames are the things I'm looking for and higher frames isn't even that big of an issue with me 30FPS hasn't ever really bothered me like it does PC players.

It's not even a matter of graphics, just the frame rate and loading times. Those are important IMO. 60fps is very noticeable compared to 30fps, and 5 seconds loading is much better than 30+ seconds. *shrug*

 

[method115]

It's not even a matter of graphics, just the frame rate and loading times. Those are important IMO. 60fps is very noticeable compared to 30fps, and 5 seconds loading is much better than 30+ seconds. *shrug*

I agree with you on loading times holy shit are they bad on PS4. FPS I do prefer 60 (obviously) but I'm fine with 30 as well.