Current Dana White would likely beat CM punk In a fight

What exactly are we watching in that video?
 
MescalineDreams said:
He's been training boxing since he was a little kid. Trained with the Mayweathers. Taught classes. Been around the boxing scene for a long time, before he even got into MMA.

I've seen him shadowbox, spar, etc. He's got some hands. It's said that he used to get the better of both Tito and Chuck when they sparred.

Obviously he's old as fuck now, but he'd still likely take him out.
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Got the better of chuck and tito...do you even hear yourself?
The only time chuck ever mentioned him trying to spar hin he said"he wasnt real keen to try it again" and laughed
He was a failed boxercise instructor and attempted to get into the boxing scene and failed there too
Hes made up that he used to ' box a little ' etc but unlike those who have boxed he cant cite any actualy times or dates or comp efc
 
At the end of that video clip, Dana refers to Holyfield as "Big Daddy", which was actually Riddick Bowe's nickname!
 
whougonnacall said:
B.s
Got the better of chuck and tito...do you even hear yourself?
The only time chuck ever mentioned him trying to spar hin he said"he wasnt real keen to try it again" and laughed
He was a failed boxercise instructor and attempted to get into the boxing scene and failed there too
Hes made up that he used to ' box a little ' etc but unlike those who have boxed he cant cite any actualy times or dates or comp efc
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If you haven't actually seen the bad blood documentary then you probably shouldn't be talking because It's speculative on your part.

I base what I'm saying on my own boxing knowledge, experience along with actually having a frame of reference for Dana's skillset. He definitely had hands.

Whether he used to get the better of Chuck, who knows. That was just the Rumour. Dana definitely did have better technical boxing than him though, without a doubt.

Tito, absolutely. Tito never had hands and still doesn't. Based on what I seen of him shadowboxing, hitting pads, heavy bag, moving around and sparring, he would've absolutely murked Tito..which Is why he never showed up I would imagine.

I'm Indifferent to Dana but this is the reality. People who give opinions on this matter seem to be heavily influenced by their dislike of Dana and unwillingness to believe that he could've had any boxing skill whatsoever rather than logic It seems..but I comment based on what I see.
 
whougonnacall said:
B.s
Got the better of chuck and tito...do you even hear yourself?
The only time chuck ever mentioned him trying to spar hin he said"he wasnt real keen to try it again" and laughed
He was a failed boxercise instructor and attempted to get into the boxing scene and failed there too
Hes made up that he used to ' box a little ' etc but unlike those who have boxed he cant cite any actualy times or dates or comp efc
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Anyone who's been boxing since they were a little kid, boxed with the mayweathers, been around the pro scene, used to eat sleep and breathe boxing for a time, even if they never really pursued / made It / gave up..will have some ability. There's literally no way you wouldn't. It's very clear that at one point of his life he had a profound love towards boxing and still does from what I've seen.

And based on what I seen of him, at 37 years old likely far past what he was at his best..he had some skills. The boxing level in MMA has been ridiculously low for quite some time. Tito's boxing ability was laughably rudimentary. I know guys with 1 month of training In legitimate boxing gyms who would've smoked him In sparring relatively easily. That's just the reality.

Dana would've made It look easy. The only people arguing otherwise are the people with bias who couldn't possibly admit that Dana white was good at anything. Or they just lack the frame of reference, or experience and knowledge to comment on It.
 
MescalineDreams said:
I dunno about chuck, that was just the rumour back In the day. Don't necessarily doubt It though. From a technical standpoint, Dana's boxing was much better than Chuck's. Much much better, but who knows.

Tito for sure though.

It has nothing to do with believing anything. I seen the bad blood documentary a decade ago, still on fight pass I believe. You can see him shadow box, hit pads, hit the heavy bag, move around, throw jabs yourself. He had hands

Don't doubt for a second that he used to decimate Tito in sparring. Tito never had boxing and still doesn't.

Though, for people who haven't seen the bad blood documentary and have no frame of reference for his skillset..I can understand the skepticism I suppose.

But he was aight. Was sparring actual ranked HW pro boxers leading up to the Tito fight back In the day.
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Chuck would have absoluterly raped him standing

I think ur blurring things here with this part
Dana was chucks manager (possibly titos as well for a bit) ,he helped arrange chuck to be brought in as a sparring partner for tito and fucked him up (chuck that is not white obviously) its what actualy started chucks mma career!
(Note titos was started same way as a wredtling partner for tank abbot!l)
 
MescalineDreams said:
If you haven't actually seen the bad blood documentary then you probably shouldn't be talking because It's speculative on your part.

I base what I'm saying on my own boxing knowledge, experience along with actually having a frame of reference for Dana's skillset. He definitely had hands.

Whether he used to get the better of Chuck, who knows. That was just the Rumour. Dana definitely did have better technical boxing than him though, without a doubt.

Tito, absolutely. Tito never had hands and still doesn't. Based on what I seen of him shadowboxing, hitting pads, heavy bag, moving around and sparring, he would've absolutely murked Tito..which Is why he never showed up I would imagine.

I'm Indifferent to Dana but this is the reality. People who give opinions on this matter seem to be heavily influenced by their dislike of Dana and unwillingness to believe that he could've had any boxing skill whatsoever rather than logic It seems..but I comment based on what I see.
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Not a fucking prayer he got the better of chuck ever ...jeez
As for tito his hands are bad yes butbhes still wayy more atheltic and faster than white , white was a boxercose instructor period

Also tito never showed up as dana refused to pay him ....stop using the documentary alone man its danas way of rewritting history into making himself somekind of badass
 
whougonnacall said:
Chuck would have absoluterly raped him standing

I think ur blurring things here with this part
Dana was chucks manager (possibly titos as well for a bit) ,he helped arrange chuck to be brought in as a sparring partner for tito and fucked him up (chuck that is not white obviously) its what actualy started chucks mma career!
(Note titos was started same way as a wredtling partner for tank abbot!l)
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Well, that was the rumour on the UG back In the day. I'm not blurring anything. It was just a rumour that they used to spar and Dana used to get the better of him.

It's sparring. They aren't trying to kill each other. In that sense, Dana actually did have better technical boxing than chuck by a pretty decent margin honestly.. so I can could actually see him getting the better of him during sparring. During an actual fight though Is another matter.

Whether that actually happened though, who knows. Again, just a rumour.
 
MescalineDreams said:
Anyone who's been boxing since they were a little kid, boxed with the mayweathers, been around the pro scene, used to eat sleep and breathe boxing for a time, even if they never really pursued / made It / gave up..will have some ability. There's literally no way you wouldn't. It's very clear that at one point of his life he had a profound love towards boxing and still does from what I've seen.

And based on what I seen of him, at 37 years old likely far past what he was at his best..he had some skills. The boxing level in MMA has been ridiculously low for quite some time. Tito's boxing ability was laughably rudimentary. I know guys with 1 month of training In legitimate boxing gyms who would've smoked him In sparring relatively easily. That's just the reality.

Dana would've made It look easy. The only people arguing otherwise are the people with bias who couldn't possibly admit that Dana white was good at anything. Or they just lack the frame of reference, or experience and knowledge to comment on It.
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Dude he never was a pro fighter nor was he in an actual pro fight or ever close to one and as bad as titos striking looks vs other pros he still training in it for years as a full time athlete.
The fact white has some association with wanting to be a boxing promoter and likes boxibg etc doesnt alter any of that man
 
whougonnacall said:
Not a fucking prayer he got the better of chuck ever ...jeez
As for tito his hands are bad yes butbhes still wayy more atheltic and faster than white , white was a boxercose instructor period

Also tito never showed up as dana refused to pay him ....stop using the documentary alone man its danas way of rewritting history into making himself somekind of badass
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I know boxing. It's really that simple. I know what I'm watching. I've been boxing a long time myself.

Dana was 10x the boxer that Tito was, even at 37. There's really no questioning this unless you don't know what you're talking about.

How athletic Tito was Is irrelevant. It's boxing. Tito is an MMA fighter, not a boxer.
 
MescalineDreams said:
Well, that was the rumour on the UG back In the day. I'm not blurring anything. It was just a rumour that they used to spar and Dana used to get the better of him.

It's sparring. They aren't trying to kill each other. In that sense, Dana actually did have better technical boxing than chuck by a pretty decent margin honestly.. so I can could actually see him getting the better of him during sparring. During an actual fight though Is another matter.

Whether that actually happened though, who knows. Again, just a rumour.
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Nope only time they ever talkdd about it was chuck being asked and he literaly laughed that dana tried once and wasnt keem to repeat it

Jeez ur basing his 'better boxing ' on some edited footage of his own documentary! Chuck was a pro fighter and won kickboxing titles....dana was a boxercise instructor and never fought!
 
whougonnacall said:
Dude he never was a pro fighter nor was he in an actual pro fight or ever close to one and as bad as titos striking looks vs other pros he still training in it for years as a full time athlete.
The fact white has some association with wanting to be a boxing promoter and likes boxibg etc doesnt alter any of that man
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It doesn't fucking matter how much Tito trained in MMA as an athlete. Were talking about boxing kid. Boxing. understand? This is not fucking MMA.

and In boxing, Tito is and was a joke.

Again, you're basing a lot of this on "oh he was just a boxercise instructor without fights" and all this other irrational nonsense.

None of what you're saying Is based on him actually training, shadowboxing, sparring, hitting pads, moving around, which will tell you all that you need to know. What Dana or anyone else says Is irrelevant.

So, i'm led to believe that you're just not qualified to assess his boxing ability based on that documentary, you haven't seen it, or you're just so blinded by the dislike / bias towards Dana that you spew irrational logic.

There's no disputing what I'm saying
 
whougonnacall said:
Nope only time they ever talkdd about it was chuck being asked and he literaly laughed that dana tried once and wasnt keem to repeat it

Jeez ur basing his 'better boxing ' on some edited footage of his own documentary! Chuck was a pro fighter and won kickboxing titles....dana was a boxercise instructor and never fought!
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I've been boxing for over a decade. I can discern very clearly where someone stands as a boxer from what I seen during that documentary. Simple things like moving around, the jab, how you slip punches, hit pads, hit the heavy bag, even the little sparring that we seen.

Anyone with any sort of boxing IQ can watch even short glimpses of someone's skillset and easily determine who's superior.

Tito wasn't even close dude. Doesn't matter how much of an athlete he was, how much MMA he'd trained or how many fights he's had. He wasn't a boxer, he had no boxing ability whatsoever and he would've got smoked.

Boxing and MMA are two different things

and again, I clarified that It was a rumour. Just from my perspective, I feel Dana had the superior technical ability, so I wouldn't necessarily doubt that was the case. But it was probably bullshit, who knows.
 
Phil is awful, but he's a competitor willing to step out there and used to the scene.

Guys like Dana or Rogan would probably choke even if they have more technique.

There are hobbyists in boxing gyms that are experienced and look great.
They would never fight at a professional level, out of their comfort zone.
 
You know how many punches dana had to throw to get those triceps like this....

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in reality red face Dana is the final boss after Rickson...
 
Dana had no balls to fight. Let's assume even if he was technically better than tito, he was much smaller, and no one has any idea if he can take a punch.
 
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