Cruz has GSP level Grappling/Timing and is the best Striker ever in MMA

[AceCooch]

As the biggest TJ fan in here...
Aldo?
Holloway?
Conor?
Moraes?
Dantas?

Ok yeah Holloway is up there

Aldo is mainly leg kicks, so I look at that a little differently

Conor is primarily a power striker, I don't think his technique is as good as TJ's

 

[muaymilk]

people have higher punching accuracy than floyd, but hes still the goat because he will never be caught, unlike the other fighters you mentioned

GSP lands more takedowns because he needs to

Anderson Silva is the best striker of all time in any combat sport.

Mayweather is known for his impenetrable defense more than anything.

However a lot of people think Floyd is actually 48-1. Early in his career he fought a guy and the stats were heavily in the guys favor, the lederman card and both announcers knew he had lost, and Floyd got the decision anyway. People think it was his introduction to fixed boxing. I'll have to remember which fight it was.

 

[ortizgnp]

Come on man this forum is plastered with Cruz love these days. He doesn't get many GOAT mentions, but for the "little guys" who do get a mention, he's top of the pile most def.

I guess I'm stuck in the past.

:>

 

[Taric]

I feel Cruz is the kind of fighter we will appreciate the most when he's gone.

Cruz has been gone most of his career.

 

[Greedy Dana]

No. Just no. TJ swung at air most of the night while Cruz lit him up.

That's funny because Cruz was the one shooting for takedowns, the same takedowns that many believe won him the fight.

 

[Thanatos2]

people have higher punching accuracy than floyd, but hes still the goat because he will never be caught, unlike the other fighters you mentioned

GSP lands more takedowns because he needs to

Flloyd Mayweather doesn't even crack the top 10 in GOAT boxer discussions except when dealing with casual boxing fans. Guys like Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard/Robinson and Willie Pep all place higher in most reputable top 10 GOAT lists, on quality of opposition alone.

I only named off a few stats to keep my post from being a wall of text. In almost every metric both Anderson Silva and GSP are superior to Cruz. They have higher percentages, more wins, more finishes, longer title reigns, and by extension records. Dominic Cruz would have to defend his belt 4 more times in order to equal GSP's title reign, for instance.

 

[Fahrenheit1221]

I feel Cruz is the kind of fighter we will appreciate the most when he's gone.

So true. He's one of the most underappreciated champs in MMA history.

 

[Thanatos2]

Anderson Silva is the best striker of all time in any combat sport.

Mayweather is known for his impenetrable defense more than anything.

However a lot of people think Floyd is actually 48-1. Early in his career he fought a guy and the stats were heavily in the guys favor, the lederman card and both announcers knew he had lost, and Floyd got the decision anyway. People think it was his introduction to fixed boxing. I'll have to remember which fight it was.

Jose Luis Castillo

 

[DIABOLUS]

Not a huge fan of the guy but dammit if he doesn't manage to find a way to win consistently, injuries notwithstanding. A 22-1 record is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[gevoudane]

Right now I do not see anyone in MMA with better striking then Wonderboy. Cruz definitely has elite world class striking but I feel Thompson is at the top of the list.

 

[HateTheGame]

Right now I do not see anyone in MMA with better striking then Wonderboy. Cruz definitely has elite world class striking but I feel Thompson is at the top of the list.

i agree with this. Both are revolutionizing the striking game atm

 

[Exemplar]

Right now I do not see anyone in MMA with better striking then Wonderboy. Cruz definitely has elite world class striking but I feel Thompson is at the top of the list.

Jeebus on a T-Rex... where does this come from? You think Cruz could take his unorthodox, puzzlefest to pro kickboxing or boxing and succeed at highest levels? Not a chance. Just because he's created a highly effective, chaotic style that MMA fighters cannot solve does not equate to elite world class. It means he's created a magnificient anamoly - one that will likely be solved unless he retires with the strap.

 

[Scheme]

He was dropped 3 times by Faber in their second fight.

 

[MechMA]

Cruz isn't even top 5 GOAT discussion get the fuck outta here

 

[Nelly]

He was dropped 3 times by Faber in their second fight.

People say this all the time but the first 2 of those he was partially off balance and the last one he was hit clean. Fightmetrics doesn't even list any of them as knockdowns so using the word "drop" is a little exaggerating.

 

[Nelly]

Ok yeah Holloway is up there

Aldo is mainly leg kicks, so I look at that a little differently

Conor is primarily a power striker, I don't think his technique is as good as TJ's

You have pretty high standards because Aldo and Conor have elite striking. They aren't one trick ponies like you are making them out to be.

 

[ElCasca]

Ok yeah Holloway is up there

Aldo is mainly leg kicks, so I look at that a little differently

Conor is primarily a power striker, I don't think his technique is as good as TJ's

They are better strikers than TJ

 

[Rubberchin]

Not sure how anyone can say he's a great striker. Great, unorthodox movement, yes. But a great striker? No.

 

[VitorReem]

That's funny because Cruz was the one shooting for takedowns, the same takedowns that many believe won him the fight.

What are you talking about dude tj barely had 30% striking accuracy in the fight. Winging punches into thin air isn't winning

 

[BigNuggetIce]

No. Just no. TJ swung at air most of the night while Cruz lit him up.

Bullshit Cruz lit him up. I get so sick of sherdog acting like that was some sort of Cruz master class. That fight was as close as a fight can be & neither fighter lit the other up.