Could the h-bomb be the counter for guard pullers?

[hswrestler]

Unlike straight up ground and pound, the h bomb doesn't actually require top control which could be difficult if the guard puller is a dangerous grappler like Charles Oliveira. It allows the standing opponent to quickly land damage and get away. I could see it working for heavy fisted guys like Justin Gaethje or Khamzat

 

[Istryker]

 

[Bullitt68]

No. The key to the H-bomb was that Bisping was already unconscious when Hendo dove onto his face. Conscious people would react differently to someone diving at them with a punch...they'd react. Whether it's an upkick or a triangle, the person on the bottom would have a greater chance of getting something offensive out of that than the person trying the H-bomb.

Besides which, back in the day it was Kazushi Sakuraba who was known for his creative offense against people pulling guard on him, from his cartwheels and jumps/stomps to his baseball slide sidekick. But he never actually knocked anyone out with any of it. It was just a way to create openings for positional advancement or sub attempts.

 

[PaddyO'malley]

Gotta set it up fam like in da endz point in one direction like "yo what's that fam" den crack em from another dude be snorin' quick fam ain't know what hittem u know the #wagwan

 

[AmonTobin]

Pulling guard and being unconscious are…pretty different things. You can’t defend yourself when you’re the latter. Which is why so many psychos love that follow up strike aka postmortem death blow. The best counter for a (conscious) fighter pulling guard, is a swift kick in the ass.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

 

[World eater]

 

[TJ Dillashank]

I thought the interlocking fish smash was the answer to guard pullers

 

[AmonTobin]

No. The key to the H-bomb was that Bisping was already unconscious when Hendo dove onto his face. Conscious people would react differently to someone diving at them with a punch...they'd react. Whether it's an upkick or a triangle, the person on the bottom would have a greater chance of getting something offensive out of that than the person trying the H-bomb.

Besides which, back in the day it was Kazushi Sakuraba who was known for his creative offense against people pulling guard on him, from his cartwheels and jumps/stomps to his baseball slide sidekick. But he never actually knocked anyone out with any of it. It was just a way to create openings for positional advancement or sub attempts.

Sakuraba had some of the most creative attacks on the grounded opponent. It’s amazing how he blended theatrical elements of pro wrestling into such high steaks cage fights. Pride really let fighter get acrobatic with their different rules.

 

[Danespina]

No. The key to the H-bomb was that Bisping was already unconscious when Hendo dove onto his face. Conscious people would react differently.

Hmm, good point actually.

 

[laleggenda27]

Punching an unconscious opponent is not the same as punching a conscious one. It's also a scumbag move, but that's a separate thread entirely.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

 

[Megatronlee]

Unlike straight up ground and pound, the h bomb doesn't actually require top control which could be difficult if the guard puller is a dangerous grappler like Charles Oliveira. It allows the standing opponent to quickly land damage and get away. I could see it working for heavy fisted guys like Justin Gaethje or Khamzat

So tell me what happens if you miss

 

[TheMaster]

Unlike straight up ground and pound, the h bomb doesn't actually require top control which could be difficult if the guard puller is a dangerous grappler like Charles Oliveira. It allows the standing opponent to quickly land damage and get away. I could see it working for heavy fisted guys like Justin Gaethje or Khamzat

Really depends on the ruleset...
For old skool PRIDE rules or if some BJJ dork tries that buttscoot/ho guard dropping stuff outside against a standing opponent, then soccer kicks and stomps are the way to end things quick

 

[CanCrusher77]

This is a truly bizarre post

 

[doggo]

No. The key to the H-bomb was that Bisping was already unconscious when Hendo dove onto his face. Conscious people would react differently to someone diving at them with a punch...they'd react. Whether it's an upkick or a triangle, the person on the bottom would have a greater chance of getting something offensive out of that than the person trying the H-bomb.

Besides which, back in the day it was Kazushi Sakuraba who was known for his creative offense against people pulling guard on him, from his cartwheels and jumps/stomps to his baseball slide sidekick. But he never actually knocked anyone out with any of it. It was just a way to create openings for positional advancement or sub attempts.

Shogun was sick good at punching you in the face if you were lying down.

 

[oldschoolmmafan]