Corona deniers getting what they deserve

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The UK pushed that "herd immunity" angle at the beginning and soon backtracked. Just a little while before their Prime minister contracted covid-19 and ended up in hospital on Oxygen.

Herd immunity is something you nostradumbass are hanging on to to promote your side of the argument.

First off the health authorities don't know if people can contract the covid-19 virus more than once............... which would make herd immunity null and void.

The health authorities don't know if a positive covid-19 antibody test means you are immune from contracting or spreading the virus to others.

Then there is the case of those that thought they had beaten the virus but were still a spreader........ Juventus striker Paulo Dybala is still positive for the coronavirus six weeks after initially contracting it. He has no symptoms and is even training..... yet he is still positive.

Dr. Joseph Vinetz, a Yale Medicine infectious disease specialist is on record as saying the US is nowhere near the point of herd immunity to the novel coronavirus. He said "If we have 330 million people in the States and 1% are infected, that's 3.3 million people and that still means that 99% of the US population remains susceptible."

You can't get it more than once. That did come out. And once you had it, you're immune. I saw yesterday or the day before the South Korea said there were 0 actual cases reinfection. They made a mistake. They were counting people not fully recovered, not people who recovered and then got it again later.
 
You would think they'd be talking about how the CDC just revized the Corona death toll for the US from 60k down to 37k, but instead it seems like they're trying to fear monger. We have never seen something like that before.

You should revisit 9/11
 
The Auschwitz Museum and Memorial condemned a protester who brought a sign featuring the Nazi slogan “Arbeit macht frei” to a rally against Illinois’s stay-at-home orders.

The museum's official Twitter account responded to a photograph from the “Re-open Illinois” protest, which showed a woman wearing an American flag face mask while carrying a sign reading “Arbeit macht frei, JB.”

The initials appear to be directed to Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D), who is Jewish.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...seum-condemns-nazi-slogan-at-re-open-illinois

 
HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD THIS VIRUS IS SO SERIOUS THAT I'M HAPPY THAT ANYONE THAT DOESN"T THINK IT'S SERIOUS GOT IT HAHAHAHA

So are you stupid or lying? If you think the Virus is that serious, surely you wouldn't wish it on some.

Or is it worse to convince a bunch of people to gather, closely together, during a pandemic? And then get the virus yourself, but keep convincing people to gather, closely together.
 
A speed limit, at least in the UK, is a legal limit on the speed at which one can travel without incurring a penalty.

It is not there to ‘promote’ safe driving. It’s there to enforce it.

That's exactly what they are in the US. However the shear amount of speeding tickets issued everyday in our country would imply most people use the speed limit as a suggestion, not the rule of law.
 
There’s only one of us coming as a terrified conspiracy driven retard here cuckles, and it isn’t me <45>

Sweden didn’t overwhelm their system and they adopted social distancing measures. The US hasn’t overwhelmed their healthcare system and they adopted stricter social distancing measures. To therefore assume that the US wouldn’t have if they had adopted equally relaxed measures, or utterly, utterly retarded. It demonstrates a complete logical failure on your part lad.

I’ve given the circumstances under which it should end already, but as has been stated many times, by many different posters, your reading comprehension is basically nil. You implement a lockdown, you gather data and analyse, and you gradually phase out lockdown measures, while continuing to gather data, analyse, and reassess. What you don’t do is listen to a bunch of terrified and illiterate simps complain about the fact they’ll have to stay indoors for a while, while comparing their lives to that of soviet political prisoners <45> weak and small boys for you right there.

You want to compare Sweden to America as grounds for social distancing being ineffective? Ok then, let’s also compare New Zealand with the US. New Zealand implemented strict lockdown procedures and are now, essentially, free of any growth in virus rates. It’s every bit as equally a ridiculous comparison as Sweden and the US.
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Not real bright, are you?

New Zealand is an island with fewer than 5,000,000 people that blocked travel in early February, genius. Probably should have looked that up before making an ass of yourself again. Now all they have to do is keep travel blocked for the next year and half and they'll be all set.

Lol at pretending the people willing to accept the minimal risk are the real cowards, and not you, who's scared to leave your house. <45>
 
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Not real bright, are you?

New Zealand is an island with fewer than 5,000,000 people that blocked travel in early February, genius. Probably should have looked that up before making an ass of yourself again. Now all they have to do is keep travel blocked for the next year and half and they'll be all set.

Lol at pretending the people willing to accept the minimal risk are the real cowards, and not you, who's scared to leave your house. <45>

Ah yeah, the old ‘Sweden is an apt comparison for the US but New Zealand isn’t’ argument <45><45><45>

Laughable. Utterly laughable.

Neither Sweden, the US, or NZ are comparable, you utter, utter retard.

Went for a drive today to a nearby forrest, enjoyed a nice walk with the girlfriend. Came home to finish oiling my decking then picked up some groceries.

“But but but they’re taking out freedoms and we’re basically in a gulag” <45><45>

Honestly, people wonder why western civilisation is declining. Cuck’s like you can’t handle the slightest bit of hardship.
 
HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD THIS VIRUS IS SO SERIOUS THAT I'M HAPPY THAT ANYONE THAT DOESN"T THINK IT'S SERIOUS GOT IT HAHAHAHA

So are you stupid or lying? If you think the Virus is that serious, surely you wouldn't wish it on some.

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Ah yeah, the old ‘Sweden is an apt comparison for the US but New Zealand isn’t’ argument <45><45><45>

Laughable. Utterly laughable.

Neither Sweden, the US, or NZ are comparable, you utter, utter retard.

Went for a drive today to a nearby forrest, enjoyed a nice walk with the girlfriend. Came home to finish oiling my decking then picked up some groceries.

“But but but they’re taking out freedoms and we’re basically in a gulag” <45><45>

Honestly, people wonder why western civilisation is declining. Cuck’s like you can’t handle the slightest bit of hardship.
Ah yeah, the old ‘Sweden is an apt comparison for the US but New Zealand isn’t’ argument <45><45><45>

Laughable. Utterly laughable.

Neither Sweden, the US, or NZ are comparable, you utter, utter retard.

Went for a drive today to a nearby forrest, enjoyed a nice walk with the girlfriend. Came home to finish oiling my decking then picked up some groceries.

“But but but they’re taking out freedoms and we’re basically in a gulag” <45><45>

Honestly, people wonder why western civilisation is declining. Cuck’s like you can’t handle the slightest bit of hardship.
I explained why New Zealand was a straight up retarded comparison and you did not explain why Sweden's lack of complete lockdown could not be adopted in the US. They were given suggestions and didn't allow groups of more than 50 and didn't need to close everything down and force people into unemployment.

Nobody wonders why western civilization is declining. We now have people scared to go out in public and beg politicians to run their lives for them. There's a thread right now about the pandemic during woodstock that was deadlier than this one and nobody demanded the government tell them what they were allowed to do.

Are you aware that some states' governors would not have allowed you to go jerk off in the woods with your imaginary friend or to oil your deck? You might not have had d a job before, but some people did and would like to continue earning a living instead of causing a global depression over a virus with a miniscule fatality rate. Nobody wants anyone to prevent you from staying in your bunker, while you do want to prevent people from earning a living and managing their own precautions and think everyone else has to share your cowardice.
 
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A lot of things are "Serious" and I don't care.
I'm pretty sure I got it in Feb. I'm 27 and hang around no old people. I live in a desert. My friends and I hang out on a daily basis. I'm still working out in group settings. I haven't died, no one around me has and no one around me will.

I get why we're "Staying at home" (I'm not). I still don't care. Sweden barely cared. WHO says they have the best model. They killed it.[/
Sweden is not delaying the inevitable. They are living life, taking their lumps and getting on with it. Locking down drags it out.

their nursing homes got trounced.
 
As expected there are a lot of extreme opinions in this thread.

There's an obvious middle ground here, even if you have to pick through shades of grey to find it, and it's different for everyone.

Those who feel our measures have been too severe should accept that there are regions that have been hit very hard and with free movement this thing will spread anywhere and everywhere. You can accept that while advocating options other than just opening the gates completely. The funeral homes in New York that have been renting trucks from Uhaul to store the mass quantities of bodies should have made that clear.

Those who feel the measures were not only absolutely necessary but also that they were necessary everywhere should accept that there is an enormous cost associated with a lock-down, and anywhere it can be avoided it should be. Areas with very low concentrations might have been able to get by following certain guidelines, with the understanding that if they hit certain numbers they would THEN lock down.

I don't think this was ever much of a "freedom" issue, though. I think most of the people arguing freedom issues probably prioritize that in every single other event. The only meaningful freedom concern is the freedom to work, and there is no real reason the government would mess with that unless they believed it absolutely necessary. It's political and economic suicide. Trump is doing everything in his power to get the United States moving again because this is an election year.

Despite all the rhetoric I don't know how much he could have done to prevent what's happened, but I've watched news reports from both sides of the political spectrum and I can't imagine he could have done much worse. As someone standing outside of American politics it looks like every time he opens his mouth he lies. News reports from all around the world about him say the same things about his behavior internationally, and I can't remember a time in my life where American competence was so openly ridiculed by other nations. I think any other president from the last fifty years would have been exponentially better.
 
With more and more info coming out about this virus that contradicts the SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN crowd. I predict we will see more threads like this
 
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