Cormier would have fought Aspinall

SuperNerd said:
Lol.

If you type it enough, you might get 10s of people to agree with you.



You fit in well here brother.

Imagine trying to convince a normal person that biggest duck in combat sports, only fought the guy twice.
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People routinely say shit like GDR/Cyborg or Tito/Chuck are the biggest champion ducks in history when it's just hypotheticals that they might've been bad matchups so were being avoided (well Tito/Chuck was later proven true).

With Jon/DC 3 we already KNOW it's a bad matchup for DC and was likely going to result in another loss if he attempted it. When you throw in

- his bullshit nonexistent hand injury to avoid the UFC's proposed Jones December date that magically heals if it's instead Lewis in November or Brock in January
- how he said he'll fight the winner of Jones/Gus 2 and then never did when it was Jones
- pettily vacating the belt the night prior to avoid officially going down in history as being stripped for not fighting Jones

Yes it's the most blatant duck in UFC champion history. By a lot.
 
Alpha_T83 said:
He didn't want Jon Jones to get the title, and I don't blame him. Jones should have received a lifetime ban.
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He also wasn't offering to defend it instead against Gus who he'd arguably also lost to.

But that's probably just a coincidence eh
 
markg171 said:
He also wasn't offering to defend it instead against Gus who he'd arguably also lost to.

But that's probably just a coincidence eh
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I think what happened was he'd decided he wasn't going back down to 205, but the UFC decided to do Gus vs Jones, and DC said fuck that Jones ain't getting the title back.

Again, the pulsing science has been debunked by WADA. It's bullshit. Jones was just doing Turinabol the whole time. The UFC and USADA swindled the NSAC. Jones should have received a lifetime ban.

DC was right to try and keep the title from Jones.
 
Alpha_T83 said:
He didn't want Jon Jones to get the title, and I don't blame him. Jones should have received a lifetime ban.
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I know a lot of people split hairs about where "guilt" lies between a substance being in your system to needing to be found to have intentionally taken a substance, but to me, one of the most incriminating but least brought up points is the defrauding the USADA paperwork.

Imagine saying "I did it on accident," and then when the governing body asks, "What happened to all that paperwork we had you read and sign so that you knew how to avoid these types accidents?" and responding "Oh, I never read or signed it, I had my signature faked by someone else so I didn't have to read it" and acting like that's absolvable testimony in any way.
 
markg171 said:
Sir he tried to fight Brock Lesnar over Jones and Stipe.
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Yeah because it would have made him a ton of money for Brock to come back and challenge him for the belt. Not cause Brock was the easier fight and he was scared of Jon and Stipe. He fought Stipe 3 times and Jon twice for crying out loud..

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DC at HW didn't take chances. I know there was talk of him vs Ngannou at one time, he didn't want that smoke. He took a short notice fight against Lewis and did Stipe trilogy when he was at the end of his career. I rank beating Gane and beating old Stipe better than beating Stipe and Lewis and losing to Stipe 2x.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
Explain how. He KO'ed Stipe in July. He called out Brock Lesnar in the post fight and had a show, sure, but then just 3 months later was announced to be fighting Derrick Lewis. Derrick was the #2 guy in the division behind the already beaten and still recovering Stipe, and who had just beaten the #5 Volkov in a title eliminator.

We all know Derrick was a weak contender, but people acting like he wasn't a deserved contender is just a move to spite Cormier. It's clearly horseshit and I can't think of any other reason people continue to peddle it.

Then just 6 months after beating Lewis, was booked for the Stipe rematch. In that small amount of time between the Lewis fight and the Stipe rematch announcement, there wasn't a peep out of Stipe, and DC had surgery on his back.

It's a huge, fan-invented, nothing burger
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Except that DC himself acknowledged and stated in an interview that he took the Lewis fight because his back hurt and he figured he wouldn’t have to wrestle, as opposed to giving Stipe his rematch next. Then, he went and got back surgery. Stipe was left with his dick in his hand for over a year, and rightfully so was pissed about it. DC played the prize fighting game well. A Brock superfight or comparitively easy defense with Lewis are better options than Stipe. I’m fine with it, but let’s not pretend DC didn’t intentionally put Stipe in holding pattern after poking his eye balls out. The whole thing was dirty.

We all love Lewis, but HW was then, and still is shit. We would all joke about how funny it is that a limited fighter like Lewis is so highly ranked. Again, kudos to DC for playing the game, but his lone defense against Lewis is not and never will be impressive.
 
Pequeño Corey said:
Except that DC himself acknowledged and stated in an interview that he took the Lewis fight because his back hurt and he figured he wouldn’t have to wrestle, as opposed to giving Stipe his rematch next. Then, he went and got back surgery. Stipe was left with his dick in his hand for over a year, and rightfully so was pissed about it. DC played the prize fighting game well. A Brock superfight or comparitively easy defense with Lewis are better options than Stipe. I’m fine with it, but let’s not pretend DC didn’t intentionally put Stipe in holding pattern after poking his eye balls out. The whole thing was dirty.
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Are you sure there wasn't some misunderstanding here, because he said he hurt his back that morning. So it sounds more like he's saying the reason he didn't withdraw is because Lewis was such a weak wrestler. And it also feels irrelevant, because Lewis vs Volkov was only booked one month after Cormier won the title and it was a title eliminator. Stipe had just been KO'ed, what kind of window do you think he was supposed to come back for? If Cormier's back hurt and was going to get surgery anyway, then Stipe would have to wait anyway. Again, Stipe wasn't saying a word about his rematch.

Pequeño Corey said:
We all love Lewis, but HW was then, and still is shit. We would all joke about how funny it is that a limited fighter like Lewis is so highly ranked. Again, kudos to DC for playing the game, but his lone defense against Lewis is not and never will be impressive.
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I don't think it's impressive either, but it wasn't bullshit that it happened.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
Are you sure there wasn't some misunderstanding here, because he said he hurt his back that morning. So it sounds more like he's saying the reason he didn't withdraw is because Lewis was such a weak wrestler. And it also feels irrelevant, because Lewis vs Volkov was only booked one month after Cormier won the title and it was a title eliminator. Stipe had just been KO'ed, what kind of window do you think he was supposed to come back for? If Cormier's back hurt and was going to get surgery anyway, then Stipe would have to wait anyway. Again, Stipe wasn't saying a word about his rematch.


I don't think it's impressive either, but it wasn't bullshit that it happened.
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Yea Stipe had plenty to say:

www.mmafighting.com

Daniel Cormier on Stipe Miocic: ‘I can’t duck the guy I just beat within one round three months ago’

Daniel Cormier is defending his title at UFC 230 against Derrick Lewis — not Stipe Miocic — and safe to say, Miocic is not happy about that.
www.mmafighting.com www.mmafighting.com

www.espn.com

Miocic wants Cormier rematch, rips Lesnar

Stipe Miocic has demanded an immediate rematch against Daniel Cormier and criticized Brock Lesnar for his postfight cage appearance earlier this month, calling the WWE star's antics "disrespectful."
www.espn.com www.espn.com

He was only suspended until September, but not because of the dubious KO; it was actually his eye that DC gouged out.

DC could have absolutely rematched Stipe in a timely fashion, as early as
November when he fought Lewis.

You can believe DC’s story about injuring himself with a sneeze or whatever, but I don’t see how you can deny that he avoided an immediate rematch with Stipe. He wanted to notch a defense or grab a money fight first- plain and simple. The evidence is all there. It went Brock, then Lewis, then back surgery, then he finally got around to Stipe.
 
CatchtheseHands said:
Yeah because it would have made him a ton of money for Brock to come back and challenge him for the belt. Not cause Brock was the easier fight and he was scared of Jon and Stipe. He fought Stipe 3 times and Jon twice for crying out loud..

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If you squinted a bit closer you would see that there’s a very big difference in DC’s risk tolerance when fighting FOR a belt vs DEFENDING a belt
 
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