Cormier Was Dominating Jon Jones Before the Headkick

[Azure]

I think TS and I have a different definition of dominating.. Cormier was winning but it was a close fight

 

[SimonNova]

Did you see the punch that landed late in the round that seemed to dislodge Jones' mouthpiece?

That was a very hard shot by Cormier.

Judges score in different ways, for different things. I have always scored fights more towards the agressor who is coming forward and landing the harder shots.

A person landing pitty-pat low leg kicks while in retreat is many times not going to get the benefit from the judges when facing someone who is walking him down and landing bigger strikes.

I dont remember that at all, I remember Jones losing his mouth piece very early. DC won the last 90 seconds clearly but that was not enough to give him the round IMO.

 

[King Cobra]

I think we are all in agreement that if DC was 6'4 and had an 85 inch reach, he would eat Jon and every HW for breakfast with ease.

This is really dumb. This is as hypothetical as me saying that if I had an IQ of 200 that I would rule the world.

People adapt to what they have. If Cormier was 6'4 with a 85 inch reach he probably would be playing in the NBA and not know at all how to throw a punch. If he did fought in MMA he probably lack power because he would not have that center of gravity or he would not have a dep wrestling background because he just came from being a kickboxer or.....

Cut it out with these fucking stupid "what ifs" already.

 

[IBeLurkin]

Cormier was soundly up 2.5 rounds against the apparent "GOAT" before he got nailed by a lucky head kick

Jon Jones is no Cro Cop. That was not his signature move. He swung for the fences and got lucky something landed, Cormier wins that fight 9/10.

Your argument is invalid...



Two judges had it 1-1, one judge had Bones up 2-0

No matter how much your salty ass cries and bitches about it, the officials who were actually there and deciding the fight saw it for what it was.

A competitive fight that Jones had the advantage in before he beat DC the fuck down.

 

[Pseudo Sane]

Yeah, it was a tremendous fight. DC's fierceness of competition brings out the worst in people as they want to rub it in. It's all very ugly.

What's lost on them is he got into MMA to battle the immense depression of his daughter dying. He exceeded everyone's expectations ten fold and did what no other man on the planet could, & did so way past his athletic prime, in his late 30's. Even the fact he is at LHW is a touching story in itself, as he was dominating at HW, won the most prestigious heavyweight tourney in history, but wanted the most challenging feat in MMA (a fight with Jones) and refused to fight his teammate, Cain. People like ignoring the fact McGregor has a two inch reach on DC, Jones has a foot reach on him, and DC is at most a natural MW (the weight he wrestled at).

If he was a younger man he probably could cut to MW.

Rumble II made it very clear that cutting to 185 lbs is not in the cards.

Wish he had started MMA at 22.

 

[XThe GreatestX]

how can he win that fight 9/10 if he has lost twice?

 

[jamiehunter]

You just said cormier beats jones 9/10 times.

But now jones is 2-0 against him, so does that mean he beats him 8/10 times?

No TS meant DC beats a Jon Jones who has had 1 fight in 2.5 years with over a year since his last fight so the first fight doesn't count in his 9/10 scenario.

 

[FedorRoks]

DC was landing better than Jones for sure.

I give DC the firsts rounds. Also, DC cardio looked good, and Jones looked exhausted.

I thought DC was starting to fade in Round 3.

38 is old, particularly for a guy of Cormier's size.

I dont remember that at all, I remember Jones losing his mouth piece very early. DC won the last 90 seconds clearly but that was not enough to give him the round IMO.

If you go to 1:35 of the video on this page I think you will see what I'm talking about:

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/7/...cormier-2-full-fight-video-highlights-ufc-214

I'm pretty sure that took place late in Round 1.

The mouthpiece is flying out of Jones' mouth after DC lands an uppercut.

That's what I saw in Round 1, at the end, and that's why I gave DC the round. I guess you could call it "stealing" the round, but I thought DC was on the front foot for most of the round and landing the harder shots in it.

 

[fractal]

Cormier has accepted it. Why are you still stuck in denial?

 

[SimonNova]

I thought DC was starting to fade in Round 3.

38 is old, particularly for a guy of Cormier's size.



If you go to 1:35 of the video on this page I think you will see what I'm talking about:

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/7/...cormier-2-full-fight-video-highlights-ufc-214

I'm pretty sure that took place late in Round 1.

The mouthpiece is flying out of Jones' mouth after DC lands an uppercut.

That's what I saw in Round 1, at the end, and that's why I gave DC the round. I guess you could call it "stealing" the round, but I thought DC was on the front foot for most of the round and landing the harder shots in it.

Vid is blocked

This is the Sherdog's play by play of the fight. The mouthpiece is almost the very first fucking thing that happened, lol.

Veteran official John McCarthy is the referee for tonight's 205-pound main event, with judges Michael Bell, Guilherme Bravo and Chris Lee scoring the bout. Jones opens with an inside leg kick, throws another and has it caught by Cormier, who knocks out the ex-champ's mouthpiece with an uppercut. Jones drags Cormier to the ground for a split-second, can't keep him there. Jones goes to the body with a left hand as Cormier presses forward in the second minute. Cormier counters an oblique kick with a short left hook, tries to clinch and gets shoved away by the larger man. "DC" keeps stepping forward, takes a few more oblique kicks and then a knee to the midsection. Jones is keeping the champion out of striking range with outstretched hands and a variety of kicks. Jones lands a level elbow, a straight right, now another stomping kick to Cormier's lead leg. Cormier finally finds his range with a pair of punches at the fence, forcing Jones to clinch for a few seconds in the final half minute. A tomahawk right hand from Cormier gets Jones' attention just before the end of the round.

 

[fractal]

But he has already lost 2/2 so......

But bro...he won landed a punch at 3:33 of the 2nd round. Didn't you know if hitting some at that exact time makes you the winner of all the fights?

This thread is saying that the team that took more shots on net should win despite the final score.

 

[FedorRoks]

I dont remember that at all, I remember Jones losing his mouth piece very early. DC won the last 90 seconds clearly but that was not enough to give him the round IMO.

No, youre right. It did take place earlier in the round. Not sure why I thought it happened late. My mistake.

Still, Cormier closed the show well in Round 1. As stated here:

https://www.mmamania.com/2017/7/30/...ght-jon-jones-vs-daniel-cormier-2-fight-recap

In the final minute, Cormier ripped some big combinations that seemed to hurt his opponent, bring a close round to an end.

Cormier landing the shot to dislodge Jones' mouthpiece does show he was hitting hard early in the round, however, even though I was wrong on when it took place. My bad on that.

 

[fractal]

I thought DC was starting to fade in Round 3.

38 is old, particularly for a guy of Cormier's size.



If you go to 1:35 of the video on this page I think you will see what I'm talking about:

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/7/...cormier-2-full-fight-video-highlights-ufc-214

I'm pretty sure that took place late in Round 1.

The mouthpiece is flying out of Jones' mouth after DC lands an uppercut.

That's what I saw in Round 1, at the end, and that's why I gave DC the round. I guess you could call it "stealing" the round, but I thought DC was on the front foot for most of the round and landing the harder shots in it.

Jones started the R3 very well. Lot of volume and let DC get back into rhythm. If the fight went 5 rounds, Jones would've won the rest of them.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Take your so called MMA elitist mindset and shove it up your ass idiot. Conor is fighting Mayweather in a BOXING match.

At least Jones is fighting Lesnar in MMA which is a superfight. You do know that this would be a superfight right? You idiot. Jones just came back from a year laid off with two years of not being champion and yet he destroyed the champion so now it is time for him to make some money as well. He has that division on lock because there is no one that can beat him at the moment.

Man, guys like you are funny, can't even have a conversation with out calling someone stupid, telling them to shove their opinion up their ass and constantly insulting someone vs trying to have a conversation. Classy.

Conor earned that boxing match by taking disadvantageous fights, saving multiple cards and creating an unrivaled fan base thru his actions. Jon, on the other hand, has squandered opportunities, ruined multiple cards, ducked opponents, and not earned the following or financial rewards Conor has earned while being in the UFC 1/4 the time. If you think JBJ vs Brock is a legitimate competetive super fight, especially after Brock vs Cain and Overeem , all whilst knowing USADA is in effect, then the jokes on you. If Jones was Conor, he would not have called out RDA following Aldo, nor taken the Mendes or Diaz fights, and that is the difference and reasons they are where they are.

Stay classy, buddy.

 

[DomiDomi]

I honestly thought it was 2-0 Jones, although they were close rounds.

 

[Polymer]

Did you see the punch that landed late in the round that seemed to dislodge Jones' mouthpiece?

That was a very hard shot by Cormier.

Judges score in different ways, for different things. I have always scored fights more towards the agressor who is coming forward and landing the harder shots.

A person landing pitty-pat low leg kicks while in retreat is many times not going to get the benefit from the judges when facing someone who is walking him down and landing bigger strikes.

Except these judges scored it the other way to what you're saying...

I have a hard time seeing how people scored the first round for DC unless they're very biased....Chasing a guy and missing a lot while getting peppered is not winning the round...I do agree Cormier landed a few good shots..but just a few. He also ate a good number of solid shots as well. There was probably a total of 1 minute of the first round where DC was fighting where he wanted to and he got some shots in..the rest of the time he was fighting at the distance and style Jones wanted....

Second round I can see it going either way..although I'd have given it to DC...he had far more moments where he connected and was getting the fight he wanted....I felt he did more damage and while a good portion of the round was like round 1, I think DC did enough to take it.

I don't care who won...I think they're both great fighters....but I do think it is funny how much bias plays into people when they score a fight....Anyone who thought DC was dominating is delusional...You can say he was better than last time these two faced off but he wasn't anywhere near dominating. In fact, to me it just seemed like the same fight as last time except a bit more action and a bit more pressure from DC...

 

[FedorRoks]

Except these judges scored it the other way to what you're saying...

I have a hard time seeing how people scored the first round for DC unless they're very biased....Chasing a guy and missing a lot while getting peppered is not winning the round...I do agree Cormier landed a few good shots..but just a few. He also ate a good number of solid shots as well. There was probably a total of 1 minute of the first round where DC was fighting where he wanted to and he got some shots in..the rest of the time he was fighting at the distance and style Jones wanted....

Second round I can see it going either way..although I'd have given it to DC...he had far more moments where he connected and was getting the fight he wanted....I felt he did more damage and while a good portion of the round was like round 1, I think DC did enough to take it.

I don't care who won...I think they're both great fighters....but I do think it is funny how much bias plays into people when they score a fight....Anyone who thought DC was dominating is delusional...You can say he was better than last time these two faced off but he wasn't anywhere near dominating. In fact, to me it just seemed like the same fight as last time except a bit more action and a bit more pressure from DC...

I just made a thread on Bisping's thoughts on the bout. He seemed to see things pretty much as I saw them.

I can see Jones winning Round 1, but I thought Cormier won it with a strong finish at the end of the round.

 

[Darknesse]

Your argument is invalid...



Two judges had it 1-1, one judge had Bones up 2-0

No matter how much your salty ass cries and bitches about it, the officials who were actually there and deciding the fight saw it for what it was.

A competitive fight that Jones had the advantage in before he beat DC the fuck down.

People seem to have missed this.

DC wasn't winning anywhere but in your heart. I get that, but DC was the inferior fighter to Bones once again.

 

[Actualized174]

Don't agree TS. I had it round 1 - Jones.

Round 2 was either a draw or Cormier's.

So 1-1 leading into round 3

 

[Black Paladin]

Posting in a troll thread. Sherdog gonna sherdog. Or maybe this dude's stream was 140p definition.

It only takes a few pixels to realize what the fuck is going on.