Law Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act

[oldshadow]

Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act.​

This bill is being introduced and there is a good chance it may pass. Trump supporters it so if it gets to him he will sign it.

I like it and support it. The details in some things will still be something to keep track of. Like states that have magazine limits. You will have to get a permit even in states that constitution concealed carry if you travel. A very large number of states already have reciprocity carry but this would affect the anti 2nd states.

Rep. Richard Hudson Leads Colleagues in Introducing Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act​

"WASHINGTON, D.C. – After being sworn into the 119th Congress, U.S. Representative Richard Hudson (R-NC) led over 120 of his colleagues in introducing H.R. 38, the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. This bipartisan legislation would provide nationwide reciprocity for concealed carry license holders and for residents of Constitutional Carry states"

Rep. Richard Hudson Leads Colleagues in Introducing Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act

WASHINGTON, D.C. – After being sworn into the 119th Congress, U.S. Representative Richard Hudson (R-NC) led over 120 of his colleagues in introducing H.R.

hudson.house.gov

Bill tracker.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/38

 

[nhbbear]

I definitely support this except for the magazine capacity issues

 

[oldshadow]

I definitely support this except for the magazine capacity issues

Yea that's going to be interesting to see how that works out from state to state.

You can have less capacity mags and change out but even if you have them with you it could be a problem and used to fuck with people.

I haven't read the full text of the bill so I'm not sure if anything is in there to cover that.

 

[Long Dark Blues]

 

[Whippy McGee]

I wonder... as a Californian if that means I can own guns without fear of California seizure or punishment?

 

[Witchhunt]

I wonder... as a Californian if that means I can own guns without fear of California seizure or punishment?

You should move...

 

[Protectandserve]

Hope it passes. My pops has his CCW and is an instructor but being out of state he can’t carry here in California.

 

[avenue94]

Odd logic since I doubt the GOP is going to let abortion rights carry over state to state.

 

[oldshadow]

Odd logic since I doubt the GOP is going to let abortion rights carry over state to state.

Abortion is not a constitutional right, say like the 2nd amendment. So that weakness this argument.

However driving is not a right also. So if states start issuing abortion licenses maybe the democrats can use this argument.

 

[avenue94]

However driving is not a right also. So if states start issuing abortion licenses maybe the democrats can use this argument.

Nor is the right to CCW. You're comparing apples and oranges in assuming CCW=2nd Amendment. But sure tell me about originalism

 

[oldshadow]

Nor is the right to CCW. You're comparing apples and oranges in assuming CCW=2nd Amendment. But sure tell me about originalism

"right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


So it kind of is but we can debate that.

Abortion nor driving is a right but like I said if states start issuing abortion licenses like driver license then the democrats can put a reciprocity bill on them.

 

[WhitestKidU’Know]

"right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


So it kind of is but we can debate that.

Abortion nor driving is a right but like I said if states start issuing abortion licenses like driver license then the democrats can put a reciprocity bill on them.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

Why leave out the first part of the amendment?

 

[avenue94]

"right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


So it kind of is but we can debate that.

Abortion nor driving is a right but like I said if states start issuing abortion licenses like driver license then the democrats can put a reciprocity bill on them.

Again, you keep conflating CCW and the right to keep and bear arms. They are not the same. It's laughable logic given how many states banned concealed weapons during America's early days.

 

[oldshadow]

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

Why leave out the first part of the amendment?

I took the part that applied to the conversation.

You know "well regulated" means well trained. I agree that the state and federal government have failed at this. Training with non live firearms should should be in schools. Then continue training should be offered for adults. Then ever adult should required to be part of the organized militia for 2 years. Without that even now we are all part of the un organized militia.

 

[oldshadow]

Again, you keep conflating CCW and the right to keep and bear arms. They are not the same. It's laughable logic given how many states banned concealed weapons during America's early days.

Nothing in the 2nd amendment says to bear arms they must be in plain sight.

 

[DEVILsSON]

I wonder... as a Californian if that means I can own guns without fear of California seizure or punishment?

That is an interesting case. It would be nice if the whole gun roster law is found unconstitutional.

 

[avenue94]

Nothing in the 2nd amendment says to bear arms they must be in plain sight.

So you're reading into the 2nd Amendment a right that isn't there. Such originalism lol. Scalia and his hack logic would be impressed at this grasping.

 

[WhitestKidU’Know]

I took the part that applied to the conversation.

You know "well regulated" means well trained. I agree that the state and federal government have failed at this. Training with non live firearms should should be in schools. Then continue training should be offered for adults. Then ever adult should required to be part of the organized militia for 2 years. Without that even now we are all part of the un organized militia.

"Regulated" means controlled or governed by rules, laws, or principles.” It has nothing to do with training.

The part about militia I think you and I have some agreement on. A militia is something that the local population form. The debate there being is at the state level enough? Or should there be some form of county militia as well?

I disagree entirely that kids should be taught how to use a firearm in school I can’t even imagine how many deaths that would lead to. I agree that people in general need to be better educated about guns but teaching it in public school isn’t the answer.

As a member of the militia (you said we are all part of this militia) I think it would be a terrible idea to allow the mentally ill memebers unfettered access to guns. That’s where I think the “Regulation” part of the second amendment comes from.

 

[oldshadow]

So you're reading into the 2nd Amendment a right that isn't there. Such originalism lol. Scalia and his hack logic would be impressed at this grasping.

Where does it say you can bear arms only if they can be seen in the 2nd amendment.

The courts have allowed restrictions the same as other rights. The courts essentially the Supreme Court could in fact see it the way I stated anytime, who knows.

 

[oldshadow]

"Regulated" means controlled or governed by rules, laws, or principles.” It has nothing to do with training.

The part about militia I think you and I have some agreement on. A militia is something that the local population form. The debate there being is at the state level enough? Or should there be some form of county militia as well?

I disagree entirely that kids should be taught how to use a firearm in school I can’t even imagine how many deaths that would lead to. I agree that people in general need to be better educated about guns but teaching it in public school isn’t the answer.

As a member of the militia (you said we are all part of this militia) I think it would be a terrible idea to allow the mentally ill memebers unfettered access to guns. That’s where I think the “Regulation” part of the second amendment comes from.

No it didn't.

In 1776, "well-regulated" meant that a militia was well-armed, well-disciplined, and well-organized. It did not mean that the government was regulating the militia, but rather that the militia was prepared to fight.

"The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it."

Meaning of the phrase "well-regulated"

Also kids should be taught gun safety. Starting with don't touch without an adult at a young age. Then when older mote on safety and proper handling along with what happens in real life if you misuse one.

How many play video shooting games now that offers plenty of traing and a sterilized view of what happens. Shooting video games are very, very popular and starting at a young age.