Conor's takedown defence is statisically, factually worse than Barboza and Micheal Johnson

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  1. Mysterio

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    Conor McGregor
    • TD Avg.: 0.92
    • TD Acc.: 62%
    • TD Def.: 73%
    • Sub. Avg.: 0.0
    Michael Johnson
    • TD Avg.: 0.61
    • TD Acc.: 50%
    • TD Def.: 79%
    • Sub. Avg.: 0.1
    Edson Barboza
    • TD Avg.: 0.49
    • TD Acc.: 50%
    • TD Def.: 80%
    • Sub. Avg.: 0.1

    Don't be deceived by the hype of this fight. Even despite facing significantly larger, stronger wrestlers in their careers, Barboza and MJ (both of whom Khabib ragdolled) have significantly higher TDD stats than McGregor, not to mention superior backgrounds in wrestling and grappling (Johson's college wrestling experience and Barboza'a submission grapppling).

    The only time Conor faced a high level wrestler in his career was at FW where he was taken down 4 times in two rounds and controlled and smashed on the ground for nearly 4 straight minutes in the second round.

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    The only time Conor faced someone even close to Khabib's size, Nate Diaz, who is known as a weak wrestler, he was stopped in the first contest and won a razor close decision in the second landing with Diaz landing a staggering 252 strikes to McGregor's 197, he was also taken down.


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    Edit: Please stop mentioning Alvarez, his offensive wrestling is mediocre at best and he was already rocked/dropped/concussed multiple times by Conor before even attempting a half assed td attempt. He is also not "bigger" than Conor, Conor dwarfed him.
     
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  2. jojoRed

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    Conveniently leaving out the "bigger wrestler who is gonna ragdoll Conor" Alvarez? Conor's TDD is great, I suggest you watch the BJJ Scout breakdown.

    And how did the fight with Mendes finish?

    Do you have selective memory or are you deluded with hate?
     
  3. Silverstar17

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    Inb4 only one knee, staph, cracked skull, basically almost paralyzed etc.
     
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    Great analysis.

    Thanks for doing the research.
     
  5. Portland8242

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    Can this Alvarez example fuck off already?

    Eddie's a terrific defensive wrestler but his offensive wrestling leaves a lot to be desired. He's not even in the same league as khabib.
     
  6. Silverstar17

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    The "He beat a wrestler before so he will beat this wrestler"-logic is just as useless as the "He got taken down he will lose to the next wrestler"-logic.

    What remains though are the clear indicators that show why Khabib is a dangerous match up for Conor and why he definitely has the tools to TD and smash Conor.
     
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  8. Verace

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    but conor has dillon and ido in his camp breh

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    this.

    any thread that tries to calculate mma math is fail.

    rory beats woodley
    lawler beats rory
    woodley beats lawler
     
  10. WinZip

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    Post your betting slip TS

    Oh, you're not betting? Maybe you're not as confident as you pretend.

    I think Khabib will win, but it doesn't seem like anyone is willing to put money on it. Conor fans always post their bet slips.
     
  11. YouKnowWhat?

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    McGregor's TDD relies on his size. At 155, he hasn't fought any good wrestlers
     
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    Again with the selective memory, the same could be applied to Khabib.
     
  13. blaseblah

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    Barboza is proof statistics don't matter, he sucks against wrestlers and pressure.
     
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    But that makes no sense, he got taken down most by Mendes at 145 and not a single time by the 155er in Alvarez.
     
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    Again with the spinning and assuming.

    I never said the opposite.
     
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    he fucked up eddie alvarez mind but that was alvarez own fault because alvarez wanted that what conor has.. that fame and money.

    so alvarez got his mind fucked up by conor and his fans so he done shit in that fight.
     
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    Alvarez...
     
  18. YouKnowWhat?

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    Alvarez only wrestled at high school and you compare him to Mendes?
     
  19. GalegodoVeneno

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    Well it's also gonna depend on HOW he fights, so his takedown defense it's not so simple as jut numbers... For example Conor at Chad Mendes and Denis Siver fights was all offense pushing foward, light on his feet and insisting in foward momentum... No fighter will ever have good Takedown defense fighting like that, because it's too offensive minded way of fighting...
    When he fight Diaz and Alvarez for example, he was being agressive, but actually building his game on the counters and exploiting errors. In that scenary his footwork was defensive, making his oponente out reach or trying out angling the adversary.
    His foot work is not Always the same, neither his approach... He defends takedowns better when he is not all balls to wall, as any fighter would. He was not respecting Siver and Mendes, ground or stand up and that was used agaisnt him, we are yet to see if his gonna be wild or not, i don't think he will.
     
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    LMAO
     
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