Conor never should have left 145 pounds

[Nelly]

Conor could have never stayed at 145.

Conor is a guy that likes a challenge and after cleaning out 145 with ease he wanted bigger and better things. He is a true fighter and not a bully. While most fighters moved weight classes because they lost Conor moved because he dominated.
It would go against his nature to not seek a challenge.

I chuckled when I read this. Cleaning out 145 with 0 title defense and Edgar still there.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

I don’t understand what the confusion is. Nobody was talking about Conor’s weight cuts early in his ufc career..

Because as you get older the cut gets harder and harder.

That is no small man. He is 5'9, and easily 170 of shredded muscle.. He might be 180 there, he is big.. Yeah you can weigh 170 with a beer belly.. Conor has no fat to be seen..

 

[Dbreiden83080]

I chuckled when I read this. Cleaning out 145 with 0 title defense and Edgar still there.

Edgar did nothing with Aldo in 2 fights.. Conor haters can living in fantasy land about Frankie. Conor whoops him.. Eddie, Aldo, Cowboy, Chad, everyone was supposed to kick Conor's ass.. He wins 95% of the time..

 

[Nelly]

Edgar did nothing with Aldo in 2 fights.. Conor haters can living in fantasy land about Frankie. Conor whoops him.. Eddie, Aldo, Cowboy, Chad, everyone was supposed to kick Conor's ass.. He wins 95% of the time..

Styles makes fights. Aldo had ungodly TDD. I never said Edgar would beat him but Conor should have fought him. Easy to say Conor would beat this guy and that guy without him actually doing it. Hilarious that you bring up Cowboy who most people said was a tune up. Name one fighter that cleaned a division with 0 title defense. I’m not being a hater here. You coming at me like I said something insulting to Conor.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Styles makes fights. Aldo had ungodly TDD. I never said Edgar would beat him but Conor should have fought him. Easy to say Conor would beat this guy and that guy without him actually doing it. Hilarious that you bring up Cowboy who most people said was a tune up. Name one fighter that cleaned a division with 0 title defense. I’m not being a hater here. You coming at me like I said something insulting to Conor.

That's fair.. I wanted to see the Conor/Edgar fight, but I don't see Edgar having the tools to beat Conor honestly. Conor's TDD is very underrated. He stuffed 4 of Khabib TD's including 3 in round 3 the round he won.. I don't see Edgar at his size surviving the exchanges with Conor.. But I wanted to see it..

 

[Nelly]

Because as you get older the cut gets harder and harder.

That is no small man. He is 5'9, and easily 170 of shredded muscle.. He might be 180 there, he is big.. Yeah you can weigh 170 with a beer belly.. Conor has no fat to be seen..

To clear up the rest of the misunderstanding. I know that. Why did you cut out the ending of my post in your quote? You were talking about Conor right before joining the ufc. That’s why I said that and actually gave you numbers that I took time to look up that he fought 9 times at FW compared to 5 at LW. Conor’s weight cut didn’t become a concern until around the Siver fight when he made 145 instead of 146 to prove a point.

 

[Muay Thai #1]

Its funny how Conor and Gunner Nelson are such good friends and training partners. Gunnar doesnt believe in extreme weightcuts and Connor is the master of the extreme weightcut

 

[Ancient Warrior]

GSP retired early and has a nearly perfect record (2 losses but avenged both). He COULD HAVE made wayyy more $$$ but decided to keep his health and GOAT(-ish) status instead.

Different strokes for different folks.

To each his own, but I don’t think he did that for his status.

 

[GOATtalks]

I think Conor could potentially beat Gaethje. Some of it might depend on how Gaethje chooses to fight that fight. But Gaethje takes a punch very well, is great at pressuring, and has a decent wrestling game he could implement, plus big power of his own. Would be an interesting fight.
Ferguson I believe is better everywhere. I think he’s the better striker, not Conor. Conor also wouldn’t have a reach advantage. Not only is Tony very durable, but his cardio is far better than Conor’s, his pace would probably overwhelm Conor, plus Tony has the better wrestling and subs. I honestly think Tony is better everywhere than Conor is. Not a doubt in my mind how that fight would turn out. Conor gets beaten up, tired, and choked.

I think Conor could potentially beat Gaethje. Some of it might depend on how Gaethje chooses to fight that fight. But Gaethje takes a punch very well, is great at pressuring, and has a decent wrestling game he could implement, plus big power of his own. Would be an interesting fight.
Ferguson I believe is better everywhere. I think he’s the better striker, not Conor. Conor also wouldn’t have a reach advantage. Not only is Tony very durable, but his cardio is far better than Conor’s, his pace would probably overwhelm Conor, plus Tony has the better wrestling and subs. I honestly think Tony is better everywhere than Conor is. Not a doubt in my mind how that fight would turn out. Conor gets beaten up, tired, and choked.

This is the first time I’m disappointed with your comment. I usually love to hear your opinion.
But Tony a better striker than Conor? Really? Common man you know it’s not true. I’m not saying that Conor would definitely win in MMA, but he is on another level technically than Tony striking wise. Conor would humiliate Tony in a pure stand up fight. Tony got outboxed by MJ, he has been rocked by almost everyone he ever faced. He has huge flaws in his technique. IMO Gaethje is a better striker than Tony. And Gaethje is worse than Eddie and Dustin. And both of them are levels below Conor. If a had to give a mark for striking in MMA Conor is a 10, while Tony is 7 or 8 at best.

 

[BFoe]

This is the first time I’m disappointed with your comment. I usually love to hear your opinion.
But Tony a better striker than Conor? Really? Common man you know it’s not true. I’m not saying that Conor would definitely win in MMA, but he is on another level technically than Tony striking wise. Conor would humiliate Tony in a pure stand up fight. Tony got outboxed by MJ, he has been rocked by almost everyone he ever faced. He has huge flaws in his technique. IMO Gaethje is a better striker than Tony. And Gaethje is worse than Eddie and Dustin. And both of them are levels below Conor. If a had to give a mark for striking in MMA Conor is a 10, while Tony is 7 or 8 at best.

Shit man, I’m sorry to have disappointed you—I just call em like I see em.
Firstly, I don’t think Gaethje is a better striker than Tony at all. Gaethje is sneaky sometimes and has big power, so he can catch guys. But overall? I see it as Tony>Conor>Gaethje when it comes to striking. And yeah, Tony has some flaws in his striking game, but Conor (who is a very good striker, don’t get me wrong) also has flaws. One example is the way Conor overextends and lets his rear foot leave the ground when throwing a left cross.
Conor also does his best work against smaller guys. He likes to back them to the cage, and force them on to his left hand. If they circle to his right, he’ll throw the head kick to force them back on to the left hand. He’s not going to be able to bully or pressure Tony, and Tony’s pace would have Conor wilting. And we won’t even talk about grappling, where we know Tony eats Conor’s lunch.

 

[I am your real dad]

I chuckled when I read this. Cleaning out 145 with 0 title defense and Edgar still there.

He already beat everyone on his way up and kod the guy who dominated Edgar twice in 13 seconds.

 

[StylesMakeFights101]

For Integrity’s sake.

I know that going up to 170 and 155 made him rich as fuck.

the two Diaz fights and the Alvarez fight got him the Mayweather fight and all that made him a rich, rich man.

but if he stayed at 145 he had a shot of being the GOAT in all of MMA. Jose Aldo rematch I think he would have won. Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway rematches I say he wins. Mendes rematch he wins. Anyone other scraps at 145 pounds I say he is favored. He would have been the 145 pound Anderson Silva, and maybe still gotten the Mayweather fight. With the judges and the ref on his side, i bet he could have gotten 4-5 title defences.

with his height, size advantage, KO power. I think staying and defending at 145 pounds would have been best for his long term legacy.

Conor is too.big for 145

 

[snotflakes]

For Integrity’s sake.

I know that going up to 170 and 155 made him rich as fuck.

the two Diaz fights and the Alvarez fight got him the Mayweather fight and all that made him a rich, rich man.

but if he stayed at 145 he had a shot of being the GOAT in all of MMA. Jose Aldo rematch I think he would have won. Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway rematches I say he wins. Mendes rematch he wins. Anyone other scraps at 145 pounds I say he is favored. He would have been the 145 pound Anderson Silva, and maybe still gotten the Mayweather fight. With the judges and the ref on his side, i bet he could have gotten 4-5 title defences.

with his height, size advantage, KO power. I think staying and defending at 145 pounds would have been best for his long term legacy.

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You wished he stayed at 145 so he could have a litany of rematches? Are you perhaps mentally ill?

 

[Nelly]

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He already beat everyone on his way up and kod the guy who dominated Edgar twice in 13 seconds.

How ironic. Thanks for using MMAmath to prove me wrong. It shows me that I'm dealing with someone who can't think below surface level. Beating Poirier, Siver, Mendes, Aldo = clearing out division. Okay buddy.

 

[GOATtalks]

Shit man, I’m sorry to have disappointed you—I just call em like I see em.
Firstly, I don’t think Gaethje is a better striker than Tony at all. Gaethje is sneaky sometimes and has big power, so he can catch guys. But overall? I see it as Tony>Conor>Gaethje when it comes to striking. And yeah, Tony has some flaws in his striking game, but Conor (who is a very good striker, don’t get me wrong) also has flaws. One example is the way Conor overextends and lets his rear foot leave the ground when throwing a left cross.
Conor also does his best work against smaller guys. He likes to back them to the cage, and force them on to his left hand. If they circle to his right, he’ll throw the head kick to force them back on to the left hand. He’s not going to be able to bully or pressure Tony, and Tony’s pace would have Conor wilting. And we won’t even talk about grappling, where we know Tony eats Conor’s lunch.

Are we still comparing the striking of someone who KOed Aldo in 13 seconds to a guy who got dropped and almost finished by Lando Vannata? And almost every other fighter he ever faced dropped him as well.
I wouldn’t call Poirier, Eddie and Cowboy smaller guys. Cowboy outstriked Tony in the first round, Conor needed 40 seconds to humiliate him. Only guy who Conor didn’t put away with ease was Nate. And Conor was still landing bombs on him and dropping him all the time. And Tony’s boxing and chin doesn’t come close to Nate’s. Michael Johnson outboxed Tony with ease and Nate did the same to him.

 

[I am your real dad]

How ironic. Thanks for using MMAmath to prove me wrong. It shows me that I'm dealing with someone who can't think below surface level. Beating Poirier, Siver, Mendes, Aldo = clearing out division. Okay buddy.

Thanks for informing me that Conor didn't clear out the division because he didn't fight one guy named Frankie Edgar. You are a genius.
Here I thought Conor beat Aldo, Mendez, Siver, Dustin, Brandao, Holloway, and Brimmage in just a couple years and became champ. Thanks for letting me know that didn't happen scooter.

Keep living in fantasy land Alice.

 

[Nelly]

Thanks for informing me that Conor didn't clear out the division because he didn't fight one guy named Frankie Edgar. You are a genius.
Here I thought Conor beat Aldo, Mendez, Siver, Dustin, Brandao, Holloway, and Brimmage in just a couple years and became champ. Thanks for letting me know that didn't happen scooter.

Keep living in fantasy land Alice.

I liked how you repeated what I said by saying "thanks for" twice. It stung me hard. And don't take what I said out of context. Him beating Edgar still wouldn't mean he cleared out the division with one defense. Brandao, Holloway, Brimmage weren't even top 15 when they fought. Siver was 10. A few ranked wins = cleared out division in your logic. And I'm in fantasy land. That's hilarious.

 

[Nelly]

Are we still comparing the striking of someone who KOed Aldo in 13 seconds to a guy who got dropped and almost finished by Lando Vannata? And almost every other fighter he ever faced dropped him as well.
I wouldn’t call Poirier, Eddie and Cowboy smaller guys. Cowboy outstriked Tony in the first round, Conor needed 40 seconds to humiliate him. Only guy who Conor didn’t put away with ease was Nate. And Conor was still landing bombs on him and dropping him all the time. And Tony’s boxing and chin doesn’t come close to Nate’s. Michael Johnson outboxed Tony with ease and Nate did the same to him.

So much of what you said is just plain wrong if you look at the stats. And you used so much MMAmath logic that I don't know where to start. I'm not going to argue with you whose striking is better because it's subjective. I'll just point out the flaws in some of your statements. "Cowboy outstriked Tony in the first round." You got the numbers to back that up? Because I do and you're wrong. The Cerrone Tony beat had a 4 fight win streak vs Conor had 2 fight losing streak by finish. "And almost every other fighter he ever faced dropped him as well." Let me see. When did Cerrone, Lee, RDA, Barboza, Thomson, Tibau, Castillo, Kikuno, and Rio do it?

 

[I am your real dad]

I liked how you repeated what I said by saying "thanks for" twice. It stung me hard. And don't take what I said out of context. Him beating Edgar still wouldn't mean he cleared out the division with one defense. Brandao, Holloway, Brimmage weren't even top 15 when they fought. Siver was 10. A few ranked wins = cleared out division in your logic. And I'm in fantasy land. That's hilarious.

"Brandao, Holloway, Brimmage weren't even top 15 when they fought."
Neither was Conor.

And Holloway went on to become champ himself, a guy Conor handled with ease while injured.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

 

[Nelly]

"Brandao, Holloway, Brimmage weren't even top 15 when they fought."
Neither was Conor.

And Holloway went on to become champ himself, a guy Conor handled with ease while injured.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

What facts? The Holloway Conor beat barely squeaked by Leonard fucking Garcia. You think Conor beating that version of Holloway actually means something? Michael Johnson beat Tony too. Sure means a lot today by your logic. I like how you keep coming back with more of your one sentence opinions. I'm wasting my time writing paragraphs here.