Conor/Nate2 - Silva NEVER KOed Anyone After the 2nd Round

[zerofux]

I'm starting to think Nate's biggest advantage over Conor is mental. Conor has been a master of getting in his opponent's head, working them up into a frenzy, and creating a tense, supercharged first round where both fighters are too-hyped, too tight, and pressing too hard. Conor thrives in that setting because he has a solid chin, better timing, more precision, more technical striking, and he's a counterpuncher. In most of his fights, both guys are experiencing adrenaline dumps by the end of the first round and Conor is able to pick his opponent apart.

Conor reminds me of Anderson Silva in this regard and Silva NEVER knocked anyone out after round 2. That's a crazy fact to me, and it makes me feel like this is something we don't pay enough attention to. Silva was like a snake charmer, and if he couldn't lull you into his trap, more often than not, he would just take the last two rounds off.

Conor can't get in Nate's head. Nate can't even get in Nate's head. It's hard for me to envision a path to victory for Conor in this rematch unless he's ready to run like Condit and try to steal 3 rounds, which is like impossible, since he doesn't have Condit's range.

EDIT: Conor has NEVER KOed anyone after the 2nd round either.

 

[dildos]

Wait. During or only after second round?

Anderson knocked out yushin Okami in the second.... Ace and Chael too..

Also since cote couldn't go on, that technically counts too even though he stepped back words wierdly.

 

[dildos]

Read the title you spastic.AFTER the second round.And again Yushin Okami uses capitals.

Well after the second round commences or what? It's ambiguous.

And now it's cute that you are following me thread to thread. Just follow my sherdog acct. that's easier.

 

[CTYankee]

Read the title you spastic.AFTER the second round.And again Yushin Okami uses capitals.

Calm down. He made a mistake.

 

[Pingu]

Well after the second round commences or what? It's ambiguous.

It's really not ambiguos buddy. After don't mean during.

edit: Not that it matters one bit everybody makes mistakes.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

There are no interesting or honest reasons to compare Tappy to Anderson.

 

[felmmando]

Well after the second round commences or what? It's ambiguous.

I didn't read it as ambiguous: if it takes place during the 3rd, 4th or 5th round, it's after the 2nd round. If it takes place during the 2nd round, let alone the 1st, it's not after the 2nd round.

 

[Clear Winner]

Because he's finishes most fights in the 1st or 2nd? Only 1 decision in his career.

Silva's had a few more.

 

[LukeSkyRutten]

I think you're reading too much into it. When someone is outclassed in the striking, a finish will usually come early.

The reality is that it isn't a psychological thing, it's a style thing. If a fight went past round 3 with Anderson it was either a.) They refused to engage [Due to significantly inferior striking] or b.) They had strong stand-up ability, but were content to lose a decision [Instead of getting stopped].

 

[1mmaobserver]

It's really not ambiguos buddy. After don't mean during.

edit: Not that it matters one bit everybody makes mistakes.

chuck norris does not make mistakes, he makes bread

 

[loisestrad]

Conor has been to the third round once in his career.

Your point is no where to be found, and your edit made it worse.

 

[mjfan23]

Conor has been to the third round once in his career.

Your point is no where to be found, and your edit made it worse.

End of thread

 

[dildos]

Calm down. He made a mistake.

nah dw this guy got beef with me because i am brown and he doesnt like that.

 

[Zappa]

The path for Conor to win is quite simple, just leg kick Nate and pick him apart once his movement is limited

 

[zerofux]

I think you're reading too much into it. When someone is outclassed in the striking, a finish will usually come early.

The reality is that it isn't a psychological thing, it's a style thing. If a fight went past round 3 with Anderson it was either a.) They refused to engage [Due to significantly inferior striking] or b.) They had strong stand-up ability, but were content to lose a decision [Instead of getting stopped].

I'm questioning how much we mistake for punching power is actually taking advantage of their opponents tightness, which they induced. This isn't reading too much into it. They've both talked about it in interviews. Conor has continually pointed out how tense these fighters are and how he can exploit that. Silva makes it a point to channel the opposite of that before each of his fights. He looks like he's ready to take a nap when he's about to fight. I don't think either one of them hits much harder than anyone else. They're just masters at setting everything up and landing the perfect shot. That works in the early rounds.

 

[sonhow]

The normal lenght of mma fight is three rounds. I think third round finishes are the rarest anyways.

 

[dildos]

I didn't read it as ambiguous: if it takes place during the 3rd, 4th or 5th round, it's after the 2nd round. If it takes place during the 2nd round, let alone the 1st, it's not after the 2nd round.

It's really not ambiguos buddy. After don't mean during.

edit: Not that it matters one bit everybody makes mistakes.

my bad. @Tedarch82 understands that i do not have good reading skills since i have brown skin. he pulled me up and corrected me straight away.

 

[zerofux]

Conor has been to the third round once in his career.

Your point is no where to be found, and your edit made it worse.

Yeah, because if he doesn't win in the first two rounds he submits to his opponent.

 

[zerofux]

The path for Conor to win is quite simple, just leg kick Nate and pick him apart once his movement is limited

He doesn't have the range to do that. Leg kick range for Conor puts him at the end of Nate's punches.

 

[LukeSkyRutten]

I'm questioning how much we mistake for punching power is actually taking advantage of their opponents tightness, which they induced. This isn't reading too much into it. They've both talked about it in interviews. Conor has continually pointed out how tense these fighters are and how he can exploit that. Silva makes it a point to channel the opposite of that before each of his fights. He looks like he's ready to take a nap when he's about to fight. I don't think either one of them hits much harder than anyone else. They're just masters at setting everything up and landing the perfect shot. That works in the early rounds.

The problem is that most fighters that have a large number of KO finishes, get those finishes in the first few rounds. It's just the nature of a skill discrepancy. Most of the time, if it goes past the third it's because the skill level is similar… Those fighter are tense not because of mind games… They are tense because they are out skilled on the feet.

Dan Henderson is a perfect example. He was perfect in the first round. Did not fall into any form of mind games. He was simply out matched on the feet and stopped. It's the nature of a mismatch in skill.