Conor McGregor's chin...

[NationWideNinja]

No, there is a narrative that is super common on here about that fight.

The narrative is that Mendes pretty much gassed because of the body shots. I never stop hearing Conor fanboys claiming that, that is the main reason he gassed. When we all know the guy was pretty much exhausted by his own doing and lack of preparation.

I call them crappy body kicks because once again there is this idea that Conor can kick lol. I keep trying to tell people that he's a one trick pony and then people start talking like he can kick. Like, the guy is so bad or inexperienced in the art of kicking that he almost broke his own leg by kicking Diaz. Watch that fight again and tell me if those weak-ass front kicks really did much to Chad.

It's a fucking illusion.

Kicks dont need to have perfect technique to gas someone if they keep landing on the gut. Also I see no solid reason to believe that he has weak kicks simply because you are telling me so.

 

[KillingJoke]

He shot for a takedown and was instantaneously in a guillotine. He used the exact same guillotine escape he tried against Mendes and Nate countered it. Nate instantly moved to mount. Conor's hands were in a hilariously bad position when he turned over as Nate was working for the RNC.

I think it's a pretty good example tbh

He was rocked and gassed. How the hell is that a good example ?

 

[YellowBaneno]

Poirier cracked Conor right on the chin. Brandao got multiple combinations off when he was able to penetrate in on McGregor, Holloway was landing good strikes whenever he wasnt running away from his dad.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Poirier cracked Conor right on the chin. Brandao got multiple combinations off when he was able to penetrate in on McGregor, Holloway was landing good strikes whenever he wasnt running away from his dad.

I don't think any of these moments you mention were anywhere near what you claim them to be.

You pitch it like Dustin cracked Conor full-power on the button, never happened.

Brandao didn't land much of anything on Conor from my memory.

22 year old Max Holloway was hardly a hard-hitter either, not even really a hard hitter now.

Also, people misconstrue the meaning of having a bad chin. I'm not for 1 second saying Conor has a bad chin, I'm just questioning it. Overeem has a bad chin right, but he doesn't get dropped with every shot. I'm just saying that perhaps Conor's chin is questionable as every one of his opponents'.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Kicks dont need to have perfect technique to gas someone if they keep landing on the gut. Also I see no solid reason to believe that he has weak kicks simply because you are telling me so.

Because they are thrown with no snap, there is no oomph in them what so ever.

Watch Shogun or Machida kick somone, that is how you kick.

 

[KONE]

He was rocked and gassed. How the hell is that a good example ?

He was so rocked and gassed but suddenly remembered how to attempt his only guillotine escape, but then all of the sudden forgot how to try and peel Nate's arms away from his throat? Lol

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

He was so rocked and gassed but suddenly remembered how to attempt his only guillotine escape, but then all of the sudden forgot how to try and peel Nate's arms away from his throat? Lol

Also so hurt that he tried a double-leg lol.

 

[ICEibuPROfen]

He "Mega Manned" Diaz in the 4th round of their last fight and now has the Undead Zombie Chin and also Triathalon Gas Tank powers

 

[NationWideNinja]

Because they are thrown with no snap, there is no oomph in them what so ever.

Watch Shogun or Machida kick somone, that is how you kick.

Throwing kicks like that against Mendes guarantees a takedown. Also not every kick or punch is meant to end the fight. Machida looks to end his fights with one kick or punch, Shogun is just a savage that doesnt care if you take him down.

Those Conor kicks are like Diaz punches, scoring points and wearing you down. Would you say that generally speaking the Diaz bro's dont know how to punch because their punches lack any real oomph most of the time?

 

[Redhawks100]

He's got a good chin but it hasn't legitimately been tested. He's good defensively though so that definitely
helps him in terms of not being hit flush.

Diaz isn't a power puncher though and still forced him to panic wrestle so Eddie has a real chance here.

 

[KillingJoke]

He was so rocked and gassed but suddenly remembered how to attempt his only guillotine escape, but then all of the sudden forgot how to try and peel Nate's arms away from his throat? Lol

You're not very smart. It's called instincts. Try again.

 

[ejazahmednit]

at feather weight he has a very strong chin, at LW he will have a above average chin and at WW he does not have that impressive of a chin
but as Emjay would say chins dont exist

 

[KONE]

You're not very smart. It's called instincts. Try again.

yeah Conor instinctively did nothing to defend a RNC because he's not good from the bottom, evidenced by almost every fight in his career where he ends up on the bottom. I know.

Don't get so hung up on the Nate fight though. He got pulverized by Mendes in his guard and was utterly incapable of mounting a shred of offense off of his back. Mendes only went for a desperation guillotine because he had gassed out of his mind. He was also almost instantly submitted by Duffy once he ended up on his back and was also kneebar'd by a complete nobody.

Your favorite fighter has flaws, get over it crybaby

 

[KillingJoke]

yeah Conor instinctively did nothing to defend a RNC because he's not good from the bottom, evidenced by almost every fight in his career where he ends up on the bottom. I know.

Don't get so hung up on the Nate fight though. He got pulverized by Mendes in his guard and was utterly incapable of mounting a shred of offense off of his back. Mendes only went for a desperation guillotine because he had gassed out of his mind. He was also almost instantly submitted by Duffy once he ended up on his back and was also kneebar'd by a complete nobody.

Your favorite fighter has flaws, get over it crybaby

I'm not hung up on that fight, you were. You brought up the Nate fight. I said it was a bad example. Then you bring up Mendes fight. And then you bring up the Duffy fight. All I said was that the Nate fight was a bad example. Which it was. Thanks for agreeing.

 

[King Joffery]

Brimmage actually did land a heavy shot on Conor early that would have dropped or at least rocked most of that division.
Mendes is one of the hardest hitters at FW and he took those like they were nothing.
Nate did hurt him with a perfectly timed 1-2, still didn't drop him though.
Overall not sure how you can claim he doesn't have a good chin.

 

[KONE]

I'm not hung up on that fight, you were. You brought up the Nate fight. I said it was a bad example. Then you bring up Mendes fight. And then you bring up the Duffy fight. All I said was that the Nate fight was a bad example. Which it was. Thanks for agreeing.

It objectively wasn't a bad example though, nor did I abandon the fact that I brought it up. The original context of the post you responded to was Conor's ground game as a whole, which is why I eventually told you not to get so hung up on it. People get stunned and end up on the ground and still don't get fucking RIPPED through like Conor did. It's such a common occurrence it's hilarious.

If Conor got so disoriented by a 1-2 punch and a couple of follow up shots that he completely forgot how to defend himself from his back then I was wrong about his chin being above average. If that were the case his recover is absolutely atrocious. If anything I'm being nice by saying his chin is fine but his bottom game is subpar. It's funny you mention instincts though. BJJ studs like Nogueira and Mir have gotten hurt and ended up on the bottom against fucking monsters and were able to recover on multiple occasions. Since Conor isn't in the same stratosphere as those two, he ends up on the ground, attempts the only escape he knows which was effortlessly countered and then positions his hands in a nonsensical spot and gets submitted. Because he's not good from the bottom.

 

[KillingJoke]

It objectively wasn't a bad example though, nor did I abandon the fact that I brought it up. The original context of the post you responded to was Conor's ground game as a whole, which is why I eventually told you not to get so hung up on it. People get stunned and end up on the ground and still don't get fucking RIPPED through like Conor did. It's such a common occurrence it's hilarious.

If Conor got so disoriented by a 1-2 punch and a couple of follow up shots that he completely forgot how to defend himself from his back then I was wrong about his chin being above average. If that were the case his recover is absolutely atrocious. If anything I'm being nice by saying his chin is fine but his bottom game is subpar. It's funny you mention instincts though. BJJ studs like Nogueira and Mir have gotten hurt and ended up on the bottom against fucking monsters and were able to recover on multiple occasions. Since Conor isn't in the same stratosphere as those two, he ends up on the ground, attempts the only escape he knows which was effortlessly countered and then positions his hands in a nonsensical spot and gets submitted. Because he's not good from the bottom.

First off, it was a bad example. You bring up 2 of the best guys known for their BJJ, as if that's a fair comparison. His ground game off his back is obviously not a strong suit of his. Is he terrible? No. Once again, he was gassed as well as being rocked. Not hard to comprehend.

 

[KONE]

First off, it was a bad example. You bring up 2 of the best guys known for their BJJ, as if that's a fair comparison. His ground game off his back is obviously not a strong suit of his. Is he terrible? No. Once again, he was gassed as well as being rocked. Not hard to comprehend.

You yourself mentioned instincts. That's not beneficial to your argument. If Conor had good BJJ from his back, instincts would've taken over and deterred Nate from demolishing him on the ground in like less than 30 seconds, but that wasn't the case. Once again, if he was so disoriented from a 1-2 punch that he completely forgot how to do BJJ, then his recovery is embarrassingly bad. Nate is a good black belt but the fact that he was able to almost instantly get mount shows that Conor isn't even in the same universe as him. Nate is solid but he isn't some unstoppable BJJ menace like Conor fans insinuated and used as an excuse for his objectively subpar ground game. Similarily to how Conor fans were utterly obsessed with making Nate seem bigger than he actually is. You guys are mentally ill and outright refuse to admit your favorite fighter has flaws.

But just to reiterate, even IF the Nate fight is a bad example (it isn't), he still got destroyed by Mendes and offered nothing off of his back and was submitted in under a minute against Duffy and that complete nobody when it went to the ground. Because, you know. He's not good from the bottom.

 

[The Witcher]

Poirier cracked him flush on the face the same time conor hit him, and poirier folded. The cleanest punch i can think of besides the obvious diaz first fight, 1 2 on the jaw when Conor basically gave diaz a free hit. The second fight nothing landed that was significant at all.

 

[KillingJoke]

You yourself mentioned instincts. That's not beneficial to your argument. If Conor had good BJJ from his back, instincts would've taken over and deterred Nate from demolishing him on the ground in like less than 30 seconds, but that wasn't the case. Once again, if he was so disoriented from a 1-2 punch that he completely forgot how to do BJJ, then his recovery is embarrassingly bad. Nate is a good black belt but the fact that he was able to almost instantly get mount shows that Conor isn't even in the same universe as him. Nate is solid but he isn't some unstoppable BJJ menace like Conor fans insinuated and used as an excuse for his objectively subpar ground game. Similarily to how Conor fans were utterly obsessed with making Nate seem bigger than he actually is. You guys are mentally ill and outright refuse to admit your favorite fighter has flaws.

But just to reiterate, even IF the Nate fight is a bad example (it isn't), he still got destroyed by Mendes and offered nothing off of his back and was submitted in under a minute against Duffy and that complete nobody when it went to the ground. Because, you know. He's not good from the bottom.

Bring up fights from how long ago to try and prove your point is ridiculous. Secondly, Nate is not just a "good" BJJ black belt. He's better than just good. And yes it happens, being rocked and then submitted is not something you can point to definitively say, he's terrible off his back. You bring up the Mendes fight yet continue to overlook that he did escape the sub attempt. Like I said, his ground game off his back is not his strong suit, but he's not terrible. I know that bugs you, but it'll be alright. I promise.