Conor fighting LWs = Jones fighting HWs

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Hype dies quickly when you fight guys your own size. Doesn't help that most of the guys Jones fought aren't even LHWs, but MWs. Sonnen, Vitor, Machida...

The HW GOAT next to Arlovski:
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The "LHW" GOAT next to Arlovski:
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cormier was dominating at heavyweight and jones dominated him so that's that. could give some more arguments to why what you said is stupid but don't see the need.
 
Jones doesn't look like an auschwitz prisoner during his weight cut, so even if he's a large LHW, Conor is worse IMO.
 
Roljo said:
cormier was dominating at heavyweight and jones dominated him so that's that
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When did Cormier dominate guys like Cain, JDS, Werdum, Overeem, Stipe, Browne? Oh right, he didn't. He ran to a lower weight class instead.
 
Roljo said:
cormier was dominating at heavyweight and jones dominated him so that's that. could give some more arguments to why what you said is stupid but don't see the need.
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Look at the hell that Cormier has been through in his last three fights against the top guys at 205. None of the giant HWs that he fought could do a thing to him.

People need to come to grips with the fact that HW is a shit division outside of the top 4-5 guys and that the top 4 at 205 would all be legit contenders if they moved. (Cormier already was one.)
 
Repsac said:
Hype dies quickly when you fight guys your own size. Doesn't help that most of the guys Jones fought aren't even LHWs, but MWs. Sonnen, Vitor, Machida...

The HW GOAT next to Arlovski:
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The "LHW" GOAT next to Arlovski:
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You going to the klan meeting Wednesday night?
 
Phisher said:
Look at the hell that Cormier has been through in his last three fights against the top guys at 205. None of the giant HWs that he fought could do a thing to him.

People need to come to grips with the fact that HW is a shit division outside of the top 4-5 guys and that the top 4 at 205 would all be legit contenders if they moved. (Cormier already was one.)
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Then why doesn't Jones move? He lost his belt anyway. He already beat Cormier. There's much more prestige at HW. But yet he stays at LHW. Why? Because he's afraid of the big boys. Only explanation. His fear speaks louder than your speculation.
 
Repsac said:
When did Cormier dominate guys like Cain, JDS, Werdum, Overeem, Stipe, Browne? Oh right, he didn't. He ran to a lower weight class instead.
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he went to the lower class because his training partner was champ at HW at the time and he didn't want to fight his teammate. (he dominated mir who has had success against top guys)
 
Jones should be fighting Heavyweights as it's more like his natural weight class, but he makes the cut to LHW
 
Repsac said:
Then why doesn't Jones move? He lost his belt anyway. He already beat Cormier. There's much more prestige at HW. But yet he stays at LHW. Why? Because he's afraid of the big boys. Only explanation.
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only explanation because you are to narrow minded, since he lost the belt, he want to get it back, then rumble fight who is more terryfing with his kos that most of hw, maybe gustaffson rematch because he didn't dominate the first fight and the he has time to get to hw
 
I agree, kind of.

You cannot really compare LW and HW divisions though.

McGregor walks around the 170 mark. So a fair 15lb cut gets him to him optimum weight of LW, he then goes the extra mile and cuts an additional 10lbs which takes him down to 145 for FW, which in total is a 25lb cut - that's pretty sizable for a man that small.

Jones walking around is probably around 225-235 I would say. So if he was to cut 15lbs also, he'd be at 210, and still ineligible to fight at LHW, but honestly do you ever see any HW fight at 210lbs? Also the benefit of fighting at HW is weight cutting is almost needless and to be honest, not actually beneficial. Jones even at 225 would be running the risk of fighting 255lb and 265lb monsters. You cannot honestly say that it's the same as Conor, who cannot fight opponents anywhere near that weight deficit.

Apples and oranges.

Conor should fight at LW, hence why he did in past organisations and why he had a title there. Don't understand why everyone keeps running from that.
 
False.

Conor cuts a shitload of weight to make fw....He is perhaps the biggest fw come fight night specially against manlets like mendes.

Jon Jones cuts from around 225lbs, which is normal for LHWs...Jon Jones doesnt have a weight advantage unlike mcgregor. Jon does have dimensional advantage which mcgregor also has.

So Conor has a bigger advantage than Jon Jones has in lhw...

Jon Jones has the skill to move up, unlike conor.
 
Roljo said:
only explanation because you are to narrow minded, since he lost the belt, he want to get it back, then rumble fight who is more terryfing with his kos that most of hw, maybe gustaffson rematch because he didn't dominate the first fight and the he has time to get to hw
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haha yea, I'm sure Jones is dying to rematch Gus or a fighter Cormier easily smashed. A lot better than risking getting brutally KO'd by even middling heavyweights.
 
Phisher said:
Look at the hell that Cormier has been through in his last three fights against the top guys at 205. None of the giant HWs that he fought could do a thing to him.

People need to come to grips with the fact that HW is a shit division outside of the top 4-5 guys and that the top 4 at 205 would all be legit contenders if they moved. (Cormier already was one.)
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As far as athleticism goes, lhw is a much better division than HW in general, however, there is a reason why guy's choose to cut down instead of fighting at HW, which would be much more comfortable. The scary part about HW is fighting guys that literally can put you out with one punch. Also, just the sheer physicality of some of the guys, even if a guy like Velasquez doesn't look like a strong guy to the average sherdogger, I guarantee you that he is really strong, the way he handled Rothwell for example, that's a big guy to throw around.

If Jones would have been so confident he could have beat Cain, JDS or Werdum, he would have gone up already.
 
Repsac said:
Then why doesn't Jones move? He lost his belt anyway. He already beat Cormier. There's much more prestige at HW. But yet he stays at LHW. Why? Because he's afraid of the big boys. Only explanation. His fear speaks louder than your speculation.
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Are you really this dense? Its a rematch for HIS belt.

Hes going to fight Cormier and Rumble.

Then move up and fight the Heavyweight Champ whoever it is.
 
Also, I see loads of MMAMath to make Jones look like a coward all the time. Stuff like, "Anthony Johnson beat Arlovski".

Well yes, it is possible for big LHW's to compete with HW's, doesn't mean it's right or the optimum/advisable route to take lol. Johnson beat Arlovski, but would he beat Velasquez? You'd probably guess not right, so does that mean he should stay at LHW?

It's just not so simple really.
 
And dont ever compare Conor to Jones again the skill and talent gap is light years apart. Jones and Conor arent in the same universe as fighters.
 
The Natural Born Runner said:
Also, I see loads of MMAMath to make Jones look like a coward all the time. Stuff like, "Anthony Johnson beat Arlovski".

Well yes, it is possible for big LHW's to compete with HW's, doesn't mean it's right or the optimum/advisable route to take lol. Johnson beat Arlovski, but would he beat Velasquez? You'd probably guess not right, so does that mean he should stay at LHW?

It's just not so simple really.
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but but but Cormier ragged doll Johnson and beat the shit out of him.

These guys are clueless.
 
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