Conor doesn't deserve a Title shot, but what about Aldo and Romero?

[BigNick100]

Alvarez lost his debut in One Fc, poirier was never top5 caliber, aldo was a fluke, conor avoided the rematch like the black plague, max was a new prospect. Yoel has fought current championship caliber fighters multiple times

haha more cringe. I can do the same with those names you called for Yoel.
Weidman lost by TKO to Rockhold prior to his Yoel fight and has gone 1-3 since Yoel, just like you want to dismiss the Alvarez fight.

Poirer isn't top 5 caliber lol, the man beat Max not to long ago and just got a title shot lol.

Aldo was a fluke, haha joke.

Machida was fucking waste up and on a down spin when he fought Yoel. Lost to fucking Brunson by ko after that.

Tim Kennedy lost to Gas after Yoel and has since retired.

 

[Koro_11]

Not saying one way or another if Conor should get a crack at Khabib once more, but they are close to giving Aldo a title shot who is 0-2 in his last two, and 0-1 in the BW division. Also Romero who is 1-3 in his last 4 and getting a title shot off a loss.

Many example too in the past, Frankie getting a crack at Aldo at 145 after never fighting in the division and coming off a loss.

If you're gonna bash Dana White and UFC for trying to book a Conor/Khabib rematch that would be one of the biggest fights the UFC can make (it's business at the end of the day) then you gotta do the same for Yoel and Aldo getting title shots too.

Aldo and Romero looked every bit as good as the top guys they lost to and the decisions could have gone either way.

Conor got smashed.

 

[Toad Rogan]

Regardless of what we think, judges gave that win to Moraes. It was very close too not a complete robbery or something. Regardless Aldo hasn't won a fight at BW yet but he still should get a title shot? give Aldo another BW fight and let him get a win first. Plus there is other guys in that division that deserve the title shot over Aldo regardless if you think he won or not.

You should address the Frankie part too, Frankie was in close fights with Ben Henderson at 155, zero fights at 145 but yet he jumps right into the division to fight Aldo?

Conor getting a title shot wont be worse than those mentioned above.

All these title shots are undeserved (Frankie @ 145, Yoel, Aldo @ 135) but Conor coming off a win @ 170 over a guy on a significant skid when he's 1-1 at LW with his last only win in 2016 and his last fight at the weight class was a prolonged lopsided ass whooping by the champ makes it just as bad. If Conor was any other fighter he wouldn't even be ranked at 155 let alone sniffing a title shot.

The one thing that makes it worse with Conor is that you know the other fighters would defend their belts. If Conor were to pull off the upset and get the LW belt do you think he'd ever defend it? Would Khabib get a trilogy fight? Or would Conor then get a shot at WW and stall the LW division for another year+ before they strip him? Conor's UFC career is built on fights that are either hand picked to give him an advantage or to minimize the risks if he loses. Fighting Cerrone at 170 is both of these - slower older fighter who gladly stands and bangs when he shouldn't + fight at 170 so in the off chance that Conor loses they can diminish it by saying it's not his weight class. I wouldn't even care about any of the preferential treatment on his way to title shots if he actually defended the belts he won. This is why regardless of how good of a fighter he is he'll never be considered a great by most MMA fans.

 

[Toad Rogan]

None of them deserve title shots. However, Aldo and Romero seem to be getting one since the Champion declared them the number one contender.

Khabib however has no intention of fighting Conor again. Really, Khabib shouldn't fight him again. If Khabib wins, so what? He already beat the guy. If Khabib loses (which is unlikely but still a very real possibility), the UFC and Conor's team will keep the trilogy from ever happening so they can always have that last win and move on to greener pastures.

Conor is only interested in rematches when he has lost the first fight. He constantly moves forward, never looking back (however, if memory serves me correctly, he was scheduled for a rematch with aldo but aldo got injured. I could be wrong here). He won two belts but didn't defend either one a single time, instead opting for a bigger stage.

Aldo was never scheduled for a rematch. When RDA got injured for Conor's LW shot they floated Aldo v Conor at 155. This would have been a late replacement fight a few months after Aldo's loss so he was still recovering from the KO. The fight would have been at 155 where Conor didn't have to put his belt on the line. It was typical UFC fuckery to make Aldo look bad and tons of people bring it up every time anyone mentions Aldo never getting a rematch.

 

[mmasask]

Let him fight at 170 for the title

 

[blaseblah]

None of them "deserve" a title shot. Aldo is the most agregious fight to make because he's ranked fairly low, is 0-1 in the division, and there are several contenders ahead of him. On top of that he isn't even a major draw so it's not like a fight with Cejudo would sell particularly well.

Romero makes the most sense because Costa is injured. He's really just a fill in so Adesanya can remain active.

 

[cooks1]

Not saying one way or another if Conor should get a crack at Khabib once more, but they are close to giving Aldo a title shot who is 0-2 in his last two, and 0-1 in the BW division. Also Romero who is 1-3 in his last 4 and getting a title shot off a loss.

Many example too in the past, Frankie getting a crack at Aldo at 145 after never fighting in the division and coming off a loss.

If you're gonna bash Dana White and UFC for trying to book a Conor/Khabib rematch that would be one of the biggest fights the UFC can make (it's business at the end of the day) then you gotta do the same for Yoel and Aldo getting title shots too.

I do. Both of those are also bullshit.

 

[TrueBias]

Not saying one way or another if Conor should get a crack at Khabib once more, but they are close to giving Aldo a title shot who is 0-2 in his last two, and 0-1 in the BW division. Also Romero who is 1-3 in his last 4 and getting a title shot off a loss.

Many example too in the past, Frankie getting a crack at Aldo at 145 after never fighting in the division and coming off a loss.

If you're gonna bash Dana White and UFC for trying to book a Conor/Khabib rematch that would be one of the biggest fights the UFC can make (it's business at the end of the day) then you gotta do the same for Yoel and Aldo getting title shots too.

I hear ya, but at this point, fuck it. There have been too many boring cards or fights that dont measure up to the hype. Im in need of entertainment, frankly.

 

[BigNick100]

Aldo was never scheduled for a rematch. When RDA got injured for Conor's LW shot they floated Aldo v Conor at 155. This would have been a late replacement fight a few months after Aldo's loss so he was still recovering from the KO. The fight would have been at 155 where Conor didn't have to put his belt on the line. It was typical UFC fuckery to make Aldo look bad and tons of people bring it up every time anyone mentions Aldo never getting a rematch.

Aldo could have gotten his Conor rematch though, he turned it down. Not so much that it was 155, but that he needed time to prepare and this isn't a cockfight was his words. Another reason they could have made the fight offer to Aldo at 155 was the fight was offered on two weeks notice, we don't know if Aldo could have made 145. Another reason why Conor fought Nate at 170 is because Nate couldn't make 155, he wanted 165 but Conor said let's just fight at 170.

If Aldo took that fight at 155 and beat Conor, most likely a trilogy fight would have happened. Just like when Diaz beat him and they had a rematch. At the end of the day Aldo had his chance of redemption but he turned it down.

 

[chiefwiggum]

They all should get one. Romero has razor losses to the champ and a close one to costa. Which costa is out.

also should have beat moraes imo so I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a crack.

Conor is always exciting and makes for a fun fight. He lost to khabib after a long layoff so I’d like to see that as well.

 

[WHITE ANDERSON]

you are wrong. the term "deserve" has a meaning in MMA that strays from other sports where people use this to indicate that someone has earned something on the basis of merit or achievement.

this is the wrong way of thinking about it because MMA belts are owned by the promotion itself. the belt is meant to promote the fighters who make the most money for the promotion; the belt is not meant to indicate who is the most meritorious fighter in an ordinary sense of being "the best." so when you understand what deserves mean in the context of MMA, then you realize that conor does deserve a title shot. whomever the promotion chooses to fight for a belt deserves a title shot. welcome to MMA, buddy.

 

[Toad Rogan]

Aldo could have gotten his Conor rematch though, he turned it down. Not so much that it was 155, but that he needed time to prepare and this isn't a cockfight was his words. Another reason they could have made the fight offer to Aldo at 155 was the fight was offered on two weeks notice, we don't know if Aldo could have made 145. Another reason why Conor fought Nate at 170 is because Nate couldn't make 155, he wanted 165 but Conor said let's just fight at 170.

If Aldo took that fight at 155 and beat Conor, most likely a trilogy fight would have happened. Just like when Diaz beat him and they had a rematch. At the end of the day Aldo had his chance of redemption but he turned it down.

So in order to get his belt back he would have to beat Conor on short notice at 155 to earn the right to fight him for the the belt. That's ridiculous. Aldo had like 10 consecutive defenses (WEC+UFC) - the rematch offer at 155 was disrespectful garbage.

Just think about the path back to the belt for these guys:
Aldo (FW record: 7-1 UFC + 7-0 WEC) - In order to get a FW rematch must win short notice fight against FW champ at 155.
Conor (LW record: 1-1) - In order to get a LW rematch must beat hand picked opponent on 2 fight skid at 170.

Do you really not see how absurd this is?

 

[BigNick100]

So in order to get his belt back he would have to beat Conor on short notice at 155 to earn the right to fight him for the the belt. That's ridiculous. Aldo had like 10 consecutive defenses (WEC+UFC) - the rematch offer at 155 was disrespectful garbage.

Just think about the path back to the belt for these guys:
Aldo (FW record: 7-1 UFC + 7-0 WEC) - In order to get a FW rematch must win short notice fight against FW champ at 155.
Conor (LW record: 1-1) - In order to get a LW rematch must beat hand picked opponent on 2 fight skid at 170.

Do you really not see how absurd this is?

I agree, it was quite unfair to not give Aldo a immediate rematch and let Conor fight for the LW belt after beating Aldo. I wasn't talking about that though, more so the fact that Aldo still did have a chance at redemption, unfair circumstances or not he did have a chance to rematch him. It was also unfair to Nate but he took the risk and it paid off.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Yea it's a great look for the sport to give a 1-3 fighter in his past 4 a shot at the belt coming off a loss, makes ton of sense huh?

I think it's better for Cannonier to be the replacement. He sure deserves it a lot more than Romero does.

You guys replied to a post as if you didn't read shit... Late replacements have nothing to do with deserve, it's a choice. If there's any fanboy alternative you guys have in mind he's too pussy shit to step in and save the main event like Romero is doing. Yet, you guys are too blind to see that with their dicks shoved so deep in your eye sockets. I mean who can blame them, not everyone got the balls to step in a title fight without a full camp.
Hence why Nate and Bisping are legends.

 

[chinarice]

You guys replied to a post as if you didn't read shit... Late replacements have nothing to do with deserve, it's a choice. If there's any fanboy alternative you guys have in mind he's too pussy shit to step in and save the main event like Romero is doing. Yet, you guys are too blind to see that with their dicks shoved so deep in your eye sockets. I mean who can blame them, not everyone got the balls to step in a title fight without a full camp.
Hence why Nate and Bisping are legends.

Sorry, I like conversing MMA with people who aren't children.

 

[Kneeuinthenutz]

None of them deserve title shots.....See how easy that was?

 

[Cat Biscuits]

Costa is out, and Romero had a close fights where he almost won.

Romero vs Whittaker:
5 media outlets had Whittaker winning
15 media outlets had Romero winning.
http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/9134/Robert-Whittaker-vs-Yoel-Romero

It was also an extremely close fight vs Costa.

Romero vs Costa:
11 media outlets had Costa winning
11 media outlets had Romero winning
http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/10340/Paulo-Costa-vs-Yoel-Romero

Romero has been extremely competitive despite his losses. Since Costa is out, he's the logical choice for the next person in line. I'd rather have Costa fight, but he's out and there is nothing we can do about it.



Aldo looked great at BW, and put on a great performance that he should not have lost.

Aldo vs Moraes:
9 media outlets had Moraes winning
9media outlets had Aldo winning
Judges gave it a split decision with it being close
Fan voting shows Aldo should've got the nod.
http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/10779/Marlon-Moraes-vs-José-Aldo

They aren't going to sell a Moraes rematch with Cejudo since he just lost to him. I can understand why people feel that Aldo doesn't deserve it, but it'd make for a much better match than a rematch with Moraes.



As for Conor...


Conor got destroyed in his fight with Khabib. He got knocked down, and tapped out. He managed to do nothing with an entire round in his favor (standup only)

The best strike Conor landed the whole fight was an illegal knee.

He cheated the entire fight by hooking gloves, holding shorts, and holding on the the cage with hands and feet. I think the count was up to 19 times that he cheated.



Ferguson is on a 12 fight win streak. Gaethje is on a 3 fight win streak. Both fighters beat Cerrone before Conor did.

Since Cerrone has been back at 155lbs, he has wins over current #15 ranked Hernandez, and #9 ranked Iaquinta. Cowboy hasn't done shit at 155lbs since being back. Not impressive at all, and not worthy of a #5 rank. He's highly ranked only to make Conor's win look better.

Conor took the sloppy seconds and chose to fight a guy on a 2 fight KO losing streak.

Conor had the choice of any fighter on the roster since daddy Dana gives him what he wants, but he chose 2 fight KO losing streak Cowboy over actual legit contenders.



So how the fuck do you justify Conor getting a shot over more deserving fighters?

Romero is way more deserving, and so is Aldo.

Conor had his chance to pick a legit contender and pussed out like a bitch. He doesn't deserve a title shot until he beats someone on a winning streak thats worth a damn.

 

[nostradumbass]

Neither of those guys are getting title shots against someone that already dominated them, and the champs of those divisions think they would be the biggest win on their resume of all the people available.

Romero's only getting one because Costa's injured and Adesanya thinks Yoel would be the most impressive win. His losses against Costa and the previous champ are also questionable decisions where he showed he's just as good as both guys.

As far as Aldo goes, I don't really follow that division to know who else deserves the shot, but he hasn't already been dominated by the champ and would be the biggest win on Cejudo's resume.

 

[GrantB13]

They don't either. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation.

 

[GrantB13]

They don't either. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. I support both, but at a certain point even if it is a controversial decision you have to stand by it. Dangerous precedent to give losing fighters title shots because it was close.