Rumored Conor and Rousey's PPV payouts revealed in disclosures from the UFC antitrust suit, via Bloody Elbow

And people wonder why athletes from first world countries that are minimally talented don't want to go for a career in mma
 
If I had to guess I would have said numbers that are at least two times more if not three times that what is showed here for this massive cards.

What jumps out from the speculated numbers of buys for said cards is that the extra 300k buys weren't felt by Conor:

UFC 196 - McGregor vs. Diaz - 1,300,000 buys - 5.6 mill Conor ; Diaz 2.8 mill
UFC 202 - Diaz vs. McGregor 2 - 1,600,000 buys - 5.6 mill Conor ; Diax 4.3 mill

Plus Ronda with 1,100,000 buys in the UFC 193 Rousey vs. Holm only got 4.5 mill

UFC really is paying the fighters pennies on the dollar, even the biggest stars get maximum swindled.
 
Thepaintbucket said:
The numbers never added up between Jon Jones and Francis . Jon Jones was asking for 8- 10 million and they were going to pay Francis 8 million also? Lol. I've even seen some crazy ass people saying Francis would get paid 8 million per fight with his new UFC contract
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Francis himself on his interview with Ariel said the $8m was what UFC offered him for the Jones fight, you think he's lying? I don't think that meant he'd get that for every fight going forwards, just because of how big thah fight would be.

He also said if he'd signed a new Champs contact he would've made $4m each for Stipe 2 and Gane instead of the 500 or 600k he got.

That sounds about right.
 
Wilmer Digreux said:
What's a discretionary bonus?

Why would they want to make it look like the fighters were paid less than they actually were?
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Discretionary bonuses are payments made that aren't part of the contracted pay. After Carwin fought Brock he said he got an unexpected check for $1m because the PPV did so well and he wasn't getting a share of the points. That sort of stuff stopped once the Fertittas sold though.

If they let everyone know some people are making more that gives everyone more leverage for negotiations.
 
Soggust said:
Does this mean that when McGregor came back to fight for comparatively peanuts after the Floyd fight it was because he really did love the game?

Also, given these figures, I'd be curious to know how much McGregor really got from the Floyd fight, after the UFC's cut.
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All those Connor figures are for his fights pre-Floyd. After that fight made him a megastar he signed a new contract for the Khabib fight onwards and he had a ton of leverage so I'd expect he was making $10m a fight at least after that but we don't know for sure.
 
cmw43 said:
He might have done from the Floyd fight and selling his whisky company.
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Yeah Proper 12 got fairly big tbh. Quick reading says he and his business partners sold their majority stake in it for 600 mil, and the estimation is that ol' Connie made around 100 mil off that.

I know googling net worth barely means anything but I entertained myself the other night by googling the net worth of prominent Hollywood actors who has been in the game for many years vs Conor's net worth and he dunked on all of them

Then I started looking at NHL players net worth and salaries because that's my other favourite sport and was shocked how little they made. But I guess NHL isn't as big as I thought it was or they are all getting shafted
 
Was Rhonda even a draw?? Or she get the Dana bonus due to her other specialities??
 
Thepaintbucket said:
When Conor was parroting those 20-25 million figures, I was expecting him to make more in the ball park of 10 million. I guess it wasn't happening because his opponents weren't going to accept chump change against him and of course the UFC likes to inflate PPV sales via Danas mouth
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I remember this idiot telling me jones has got multiple 10 million dollars fights before as well

some shit about Rashad getting 8 mill too lol
 
cmw43 said:
Francis himself on his interview with Ariel said the $8m was what UFC offered him for the Jones fight, you think he's lying? I don't think that meant he'd get that for every fight going forwards, just because of how big thah fight would be.

He also said if he'd signed a new Champs contact he would've made $4m each for Stipe 2 and Gane instead of the 500 or 600k he got.

That sounds about right.
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Francis also said he thought the contract was a trick. The thing is he never goes into actual details of what the contract entails so all we have are speculations

Imo those numbers simply do not add up if you look at past lawsuits with UFC contracts. I think it's safe to say Francis isn't a big draw and the UFC isn't in the business of guaranteeing big money. Look how much they guaranteed Conor McGregor who is the biggest pay-per-view draw in UFC history.

If Conor was receiving $3 million guaranteed then there's absolutely no possible way Francis is getting 8 million, let alone both Jones too. So where does that 8 million figure come from? Is it from potential PPV percentage? I think that's very unlikely too.

So what does this mean exactly? It likely means the UFC offered him 8 million for his total contract guarantee which makes a lot more sense and he would be the highest guaranteed paid UFC heavyweight in history outside of Brock Lesnar

One more thing, if they were paying 8 million against jones, what would Francis get in his next fight? Another 8 million? 4 million? 1 million?
 
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tastaylvr said:
Was Rhonda even a draw?? Or she get the Dana bonus due to her other specialities??
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Huge fookin draw mate. She drew in people in my friend circle who never watched MMA to watch her fights. I'm not talking about mainstream MMA fans, I'm talking about people who didn't even watch MMA at all. Only two people ever did that, Conor & Ronda.
 
tastaylvr said:
I remember this idiot telling me jones has got multiple 10 million dollars fights before as well

some shit about Rashad getting 8 mill too lol
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Yeah, and when Jon was looking to make his HW return, Jones was demanding a lot more money if he was going to fight Francis. His demand was 10 million and Hunter Campbell said it was a ridiculous amount. Why would Jon demand exactly around the same amount he was making before.

Jon would be lucky to get even half of that given his past draw power and UFC pay structure
 
So for Conor vs Diaz 1 the PPV generated $61 Million. Conor and Nate took home about $8.5 Million. That leaves about $52 Million to spread out to 20 additional fighters on the undercard, UFC shareholders, UFC executives while also cover the cost of the event along with promotion.

Im not sure how much money you guys think the undercard fighters should be making but there is not enough money left over to make everyone millionaires.

If anything the UFC should cut back how many fighters they put on the card. Conor vs Diaz 1 had 11 fights on the card. Honestly they could have had 4 fights on the whole card and sold the same amount of PPVs.
 
Small Town Andrew said:
This forum cracks me up. People hate how grossly overpaid NBA and MLB athletes are but also complain for Conor and Ronda who made millions
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In the real world multiple things can be true at once. Or wrong.
I would be fine with Conor's wages if the rest of the card he fought on got a 300% raise, not with 90% going into the promotor's pocket.
 
OneOfOne said:
Im not sure how much money you guys think the undercard fighters should be making but there is not enough money left over to make everyone millionaires.
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True there's no middle ground between paying a fighter 12k and making him/her a millionaire.
 
jenst said:
True there's no middle ground between paying a fighter 12k and making him/her a millionaire.
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Ok. How much do you think Teruto Ishihara should have made that night? How many PPVs do you think he sold?
 
OneOfOne said:
So for Conor vs Diaz 1 the PPV generated $61 Million. Conor and Nate took home about $8.5 Million. That leaves about $52 Million to spread out to 20 additional fighters on the undercard, UFC shareholders, UFC executives while also cover the cost of the event along with promotion.

Im not sure how much money you guys think the undercard fighters should be making but there is not enough money left over to make everyone millionaires.

If anything the UFC should cut back how many fighters they put on the card. Conor vs Diaz 1 had 11 fights on the card. Honestly they could have had 4 fights on the whole card and sold the same amount of PPVs.
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They have to pay taxes, production cost, advertising, stadium, etc. In the past they had to pay TV providers a huge chunk of it too. Now it's a lot different, maybe, cause it's exclusively through ESPN. They probably make a lot more money now
 
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