Grey_Steel
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Hey guys,
I'm curious to know how many guys out there are fighting and training MMA at 50 years old and over. I'm 51 and have been training in MMA for the past 4 months. I really love it and I think it's the best training I've ever done. I'm not new to training and have been training in martial arts and fighting in one form or another since childhood. Nothing on the level of MMA though. The closest I came to fighting this intensely was my years in Kyokushin karate which I did up until last year....actually my 51st birthday! But even that wasn't on this level.
I actually feel great and I do pretty good even though everyone there is in their 20's with the exception of the odd guy or two that is 30 and 31. But that's been the story of my life and I have never trained with guys my age (they usually can't keep up:icon_chee). Even in Kyokushin the oldest guy I fought was 10 years younger than me. But here is the thing. I feel as if some days I have it and some I don't. Sometimes, as in this week for instance, I have a low fire all week....I just don't have that high intensity. Even when I do have it; it is more during 'training" than fighting. I'm talking fight training as I haven't fought in a competition yet. When I fight I run out of gas too quickly. I know what I want to do and can hear all the instructions from ringside (most times I already know I should be doing what he is saying) but although the brain knows what to do the body is moving to slow to react to the message the brain is sending!! I can still move pretty quick but that is just "a fast technique." For a reaction or a strategy the brain to limb time is a step behind! Most times I know exactly what I want to do but don't for good reason. I have experience enough to know that I would need a follow up to defend against a counter and I already know that I don't have that kind of gas. That leaves me doing single techniques/attacks rather than combos. Also I know that certain things that "I want" to do will leave me susceptible to a clinch which, again, I know I don't have the gas to fight through if I get taken down...thus I hold back.
Lately I have been wondering if it is age or just not enough conditioning. I train hard and always have but find it hard these days to recover enough to go hot on consecutive days. I am taking longer to recover, most times a couple of days. Then again, I have to wonder if that is just a hump I need to overcome and just do it more. I really want to get in at least one (or two) cage matches in amateur competition before it's too late. But seeing how I gas out I have obvious concerns. Mind you, I'm not quiting!! When I say gas out it doesn't mean I quit or tap or stop due to lack of spirit or exhaustion. I have never done that! It just means I am lacking and have no where else to go in the match leaving me to weakly defend myself or hang on. If I'm on m feet I still do some decent damage but I also take more. On the ground I am fighting for my life and totally feeling like my lungs are going to explode! Like I said...I don't quit but man do I feel like it!!
Is there anyone out there that can identify with what I am saying? Anyone my age? How do you deal with it and what can I do to keep up? I guess at this point I can choose to train to just "stay in the game" or for the sake of training but I want more. I still feel good and like I have a lot more left in me and I want to use what I have while I still can. I didn't have this stuff when I was younger and even when it started to become more popular there weren't many places to train...otherwise I would have done this years ago. I really need to get a fight in before I really get too old which may be coming soon! So how about it? Any older guys out there? How are you dealing with fight prep and conditioning? Do you feel any thing like I outlined? Working long hours and all the rest of lifes requirements all weigh in also. I am often stuck doing some of my training at work in between gym workouts.
Sorry for the long post.....I'm frustrated sometimes.
I'm curious to know how many guys out there are fighting and training MMA at 50 years old and over. I'm 51 and have been training in MMA for the past 4 months. I really love it and I think it's the best training I've ever done. I'm not new to training and have been training in martial arts and fighting in one form or another since childhood. Nothing on the level of MMA though. The closest I came to fighting this intensely was my years in Kyokushin karate which I did up until last year....actually my 51st birthday! But even that wasn't on this level.
I actually feel great and I do pretty good even though everyone there is in their 20's with the exception of the odd guy or two that is 30 and 31. But that's been the story of my life and I have never trained with guys my age (they usually can't keep up:icon_chee). Even in Kyokushin the oldest guy I fought was 10 years younger than me. But here is the thing. I feel as if some days I have it and some I don't. Sometimes, as in this week for instance, I have a low fire all week....I just don't have that high intensity. Even when I do have it; it is more during 'training" than fighting. I'm talking fight training as I haven't fought in a competition yet. When I fight I run out of gas too quickly. I know what I want to do and can hear all the instructions from ringside (most times I already know I should be doing what he is saying) but although the brain knows what to do the body is moving to slow to react to the message the brain is sending!! I can still move pretty quick but that is just "a fast technique." For a reaction or a strategy the brain to limb time is a step behind! Most times I know exactly what I want to do but don't for good reason. I have experience enough to know that I would need a follow up to defend against a counter and I already know that I don't have that kind of gas. That leaves me doing single techniques/attacks rather than combos. Also I know that certain things that "I want" to do will leave me susceptible to a clinch which, again, I know I don't have the gas to fight through if I get taken down...thus I hold back.
Lately I have been wondering if it is age or just not enough conditioning. I train hard and always have but find it hard these days to recover enough to go hot on consecutive days. I am taking longer to recover, most times a couple of days. Then again, I have to wonder if that is just a hump I need to overcome and just do it more. I really want to get in at least one (or two) cage matches in amateur competition before it's too late. But seeing how I gas out I have obvious concerns. Mind you, I'm not quiting!! When I say gas out it doesn't mean I quit or tap or stop due to lack of spirit or exhaustion. I have never done that! It just means I am lacking and have no where else to go in the match leaving me to weakly defend myself or hang on. If I'm on m feet I still do some decent damage but I also take more. On the ground I am fighting for my life and totally feeling like my lungs are going to explode! Like I said...I don't quit but man do I feel like it!!
Is there anyone out there that can identify with what I am saying? Anyone my age? How do you deal with it and what can I do to keep up? I guess at this point I can choose to train to just "stay in the game" or for the sake of training but I want more. I still feel good and like I have a lot more left in me and I want to use what I have while I still can. I didn't have this stuff when I was younger and even when it started to become more popular there weren't many places to train...otherwise I would have done this years ago. I really need to get a fight in before I really get too old which may be coming soon! So how about it? Any older guys out there? How are you dealing with fight prep and conditioning? Do you feel any thing like I outlined? Working long hours and all the rest of lifes requirements all weigh in also. I am often stuck doing some of my training at work in between gym workouts.
Sorry for the long post.....I'm frustrated sometimes.