Comic Book Discussion Thread V.16

[Ocean Chief]

$103 from Amazin.
Ocean Chief's link has it for <$60

Is this the book you're talking about? Cause it's cheaper than $60.

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Humanoids/THE-INCAL-HC-NEW-PTG-(MR)/JUL141295

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Is this the book you're talking about? Cause it's cheaper than $60.

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Humanoids/THE-INCAL-HC-NEW-PTG-(MR)/JUL141295

thats the one, and I'm almost positive it was more expensive yesterday

 

[Handsomebwonderfull]

Spoiler

Isn't he still in the chair?

So what is the jokers real name

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

It grows...

Ocean Chief u sick bastard you have the Planetary Omnibus. Planetary is my all time fav I just haven't purchased that yet. I need that asap.

I think I'm gonna take a few pick of my sick Tpb collection now.

Thanks for the motivation


Btw love that u have lots of you collection in omnibus format. Looks awesome on the shelf.

 

[Doughbelly]

Damn. Rocket and Groot #2 is good shit. Definitely pick up R&G 1 and 2 if you haven't.

I'm still on the fence about A-Force.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Damn, the comic book discussion has been dead since Marvel had their soft reboot.

Anyone see the new DC news of their Rebirth.

It'll be spearheaded by Geoff Johns writing the main series and overseeing all other titles. He will be leaving Justice League with issue 50 and doesn't look to be writing any titles. He'll just be working closely with all the writers on their books.

They wanna bring DC back to that older school legacy feel while it being updated and modern. Like what johns did with green lantern and flash. The DC main characters will be heavily featured and what made them special will be in the forefront again. Just like his rebirth characters GL & Flash.

 

[Big Burly]

Finished the second Invincible compendium, so I'm through issue 97. Great read! I think I'm going to catch up with the book via their TPBs.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Is this the book you're talking about? Cause it's cheaper than $60.

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Humanoids/THE-INCAL-HC-NEW-PTG-(MR)/JUL141295

Btw, I got Fear Agent Vol 2 from instocktrades - great quality and customer service. I'll Give them 100% of my physical comic business for now on. Thanks for the recommendation!

 

[highkicknomore]

Stopped by library and surprisingly, they have an awesome selection of TPB including newer releases.

Borrowed:

Star Wars - pretty good so far
Attack On Titan Manga - currently my favorite read
Batman Earth One - meh

They have blu rays too, but they only limit to 10 movies per checkout. lol. Forgot how awesome a library can be.

 

[odog]

Does anyone know how a person would go about getting comic books appraised? I know that every tiny flaw probably knocks off value. I want to sell my first appearance Cable, and Deadpool, with minimal effort, but without being completely ripped off. Any thoughts? I don't know their exact condition as they are in storage but they should be in pretty good shape.

 

[Doughbelly]

Does anyone know how a person would go about getting comic books appraised? I know that every tiny flaw probably knocks off value. I want to sell my first appearance Cable, and Deadpool, with minimal effort, but without being completely ripped off. Any thoughts? I don't know their exact condition as they are in storage but they should be in pretty good shape.

Pretty good shape means nothing. Although New Mutants #98 has been skyrocketing in price, especially with the new Deadpool movie, your comic is definitely not worht the sky high prices you're seeing. Not even close to it. Did you read your comic book? Then I 100% guarantee you that it's not even worth half to a quarter of the price.

I used to work at a comic book shop way back in the day. Half those comics arrived at the store from Diamond in non-mint condition from handling during shipping. We immediately polyvinyl bagged our comics straight out of the UPS box. If you managed to grab one of the 30-50% of comics that had no binding imperfections, you took it home, put a backboard in the bag, never read it and kept it in a temperature controlled environment for the last 20+ years, you would have a mint comic worth 500+ dollars.

If you read it a bunch of times, then you're looking at enough creases in the binding to bring it down to the $200-250 level.

If you didn't buy it in a PVC comic book bag from a comic book shop that left comic books unbagged on the shelf, which was the majority of them back then or it's not sitting in a PVC bag right now, then sorry, forget it.

If I were you, I'd take it to a local comic book shop run by a neckbeard (not the chain store with teenagers) and get him to do the initial appraisal. Then if you're interested in getting max money out of it, send it to one of the online appraisers (take a shit ton of pictures before you do) and let them sell it for a cut.

Remember, even if it's appraised value is say, $200, that's what a dealer can expect to get at sale, so if you're an individual seller, you're typically looking to get 50-65% on offer.

 

[odog]

Pretty good shape means nothing. Although New Mutants #98 has been skyrocketing in price, especially with the new Deadpool movie, your comic is definitely not worht the sky high prices you're seeing. Not even close to it. Did you read your comic book? Then I 100% guarantee you that it's not even worth half to a quarter of the price.

I used to work at a comic book shop way back in the day. Half those comics arrived at the store from Diamond in non-mint condition from handling during shipping. We immediately polyvinyl bagged our comics straight out of the UPS box. If you managed to grab one of the 30-50% of comics that had no binding imperfections, you took it home, put a backboard in the bag, never read it and kept it in a temperature controlled environment for the last 20+ years, you would have a mint comic worth 500+ dollars.

If you read it a bunch of times, then you're looking at enough creases in the binding to bring it down to the $200-250 level.

If you didn't buy it in a PVC comic book bag from a comic book shop that left comic books unbagged on the shelf, which was the majority of them back then or it's not sitting in a PVC bag right now, then sorry, forget it.

If I were you, I'd take it to a local comic book shop run by a neckbeard (not the chain store with teenagers) and get him to do the initial appraisal. Then if you're interested in getting max money out of it, send it to one of the online appraisers (take a shit ton of pictures before you do) and let them sell it for a cut.

Remember, even if it's appraised value is say, $200, that's what a dealer can expect to get at sale, so if you're an individual seller, you're typically looking to get 50-65% on offer.

Thanks.

And there is a decent chance that they are in great shape, but I won't know until I look. I believed at the time that Liefeld comics might be worth a lot eventually (especially Cable's first appeareance) so I tried to buy ones that looked as good as possible and kept good care. I'm sure it has a backboard, and I'm hoping the bags they are in did their job, but I probably wasn't buying the most expensive ones. I'm sure I did read them at least once, but I tried to be careful. I guess I'll find out how they look in the next few days.

 

[Doughbelly]

Thanks.

And there is a decent chance that they are in great shape, but I won't know until I look. I believed at the time that Liefeld comics might be worth a lot eventually (especially Cable's first appeareance) so I tried to buy ones that looked as good as possible and kept good care. I'm sure it has a backboard, and I'm hoping the bags they are in did their job, but I probably wasn't buying the most expensive ones. I'm sure I did read them at least once, but I tried to be careful. I guess I'll find out how they look in the next few days.

Post pictures here if you'd like. Especially the binding. The binding is where a comic retains or loses most of its value. I'm pretty rusty, but I can give you a pretty good ballpark of where it might rate to someone who appraises professionally.

Old 60s/70s stuff can be pretty beat up and worth a lot of money, but those early/mid 90s comics right before the comic book bubble burst are nearly worthless unless they're in damn near perfect condition.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, just telling you not to get your hopes up.

 

[odog]

Post pictures here if you'd like. Especially the binding. The binding is where a comic retains or loses most of its value. I'm pretty rusty, but I can give you a pretty good ballpark of where it might rate to someone who appraises professionally.

Old 60s/70s stuff can be pretty beat up and worth a lot of money, but those early/mid 90s comics right before the comic book bubble burst are nearly worthless unless they're in damn near perfect condition.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, just telling you not to get your hopes up.

Thanks. Will do.

Speaking of 60's- 70's stuff, that reminded me that I have a few older things that might be of value, like FF #12. First fight between Thing and Hulk. I'll probably dig that up and see what condition it's in.

My one regret is not buying TMNT 1 in its first print. I remember having a chance at getting it for $40 a year after it came out, but $40 was a lot of money to me back then. Anyways it will be fun to go back through my comics and find out what treasures I hold. Recently saw Miracleman is worth money. Definitely have a copy or two of that.

 

[highkicknomore]

What are your thoughts on Cgc? I want to submit vengeance of bane but they said it takes like 6-8 weeks to get it back.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

There is nothing worse than going to a comic book store when a new issue arrive, or a new #1 of your favorite characters hits the selves and the books are in terrible shape due to shipping.

I cannot tell you how many times I was basically forced to buy a book that was shipped in a rough manner.

Good post earlier Dough

 

[Doughbelly]

Thanks. Will do.

Speaking of 60's- 70's stuff, that reminded me that I have a few older things that might be of value, like FF #12. First fight between Thing and Hulk. I'll probably dig that up and see what condition it's in.

Yeah, it's funny. You could almost have used those era comics as kitty litter box liner and they're still worth big moolah, but a little visible white fuzz on the binding crease on your 90s era stuff and its barely worth the paper it's written on.

There is nothing worse than going to a comic book store when a new issue arrive, or a new #1 of your favorite characters hits the selves and the books are in terrible shape due to shipping.

I cannot tell you how many times I was basically forced to buy a book that was shipped in a rough manner.

Yeah, that's because they arrive at the comic book shop on Wednesday morning in big boxes with very little protection. Diamond basically just stacks them bare in the box in the amounts of your order and the alternating stacks (up/down orientation) are right next to another stack. What ends up happening is that the edges of the comics rub against each other in the box as they're shifted around which can rub the print off of the edge, so right away, roughly half arrive with minor stressing around the staples and slight visible rubbing on the crease.

At this point, if you're a collector oriented comic shop like ours, you bag them straight away. But here is the problem - we had to bag hundreds of comics, UPS arrived at like 9-9:30AM, you've got to go through and make sure everything arrived so you end up touching every comic pretty much at least once, if for no reason other reason than to count. And no one knows ahead of time which comics are going to be worth something 20 years later. If you're doing hundreds of comics, some of them are bound to get some stress lines while you're bagging the comics, even when you're uber careful. The hardcore comic guys usually came in at lunch to grab their pull lists and some of them would ask for backboards for the comics, so I'd go through the comics and grab the best ones and shove backboards in them all before lunch. And then I'd let them go through the stacks we had on the shelf to see if they wanted another copy, just so they knew we were letting them get the best copies that we had gotten in. BTW, some of these dudes would pick up 10-15 issues a week. We had a couple guys who lived out in the sticks - these were the days before internet ordering was a thing - who came in once every two weeks or once a month who'd basically be picking up a half comic storage box a month.

Anyway, I'd say that handling them as well as we did, only 30-50% of any stack we put out on the shelves were what could be considered 9.5+ near mint/mint quality grade comics. And I don't know of anybody who could have done it better than us, except maybe some hypothetical alpha neckbeard who wears antiquing gloves while bagging comics.

And if your comic book shop put them on the shelves unbagged, then you weren't really going to a serious comic book shop. Nothing anyone ever bought from a shop like that is worth much money.

Every once in a while, we'd get in a special signed comic or something and those would arrive from the distributor already packaged. That's pretty much the only way to guarantee mint or gem mint quality comics - certified in the package at production, shipped protected. Otherwise, mint/gem mint is about as rare as unicorn farts. Shit doesn't exist.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Yeah, it's funny. You could almost have used those era comics as kitty litter box liner and they're still worth big moolah, but a little visible white fuzz on the binding crease on your 90s era stuff and its barely worth the paper it's written on.



Yeah, that's because they arrive at the comic book shop on Wednesday morning in big boxes with very little protection. Diamond basically just stacks them bare in the box in the amounts of your order and the alternating stacks (up/down orientation) are right next to another stack. What ends up happening is that the edges of the comics rub against each other in the box as they're shifted around which can rub the print off of the edge, so right away, roughly half arrive with minor stressing around the staples and slight visible rubbing on the crease.

At this point, if you're a collector oriented comic shop like ours, you bag them straight away. But here is the problem - we had to bag hundreds of comics, UPS arrived at like 9-9:30AM, you've got to go through and make sure everything arrived so you end up touching every comic pretty much at least once, if for no reason other reason than to count. And no one knows ahead of time which comics are going to be worth something 20 years later. If you're doing hundreds of comics, some of them are bound to get some stress lines while you're bagging the comics, even when you're uber careful. The hardcore comic guys usually came in at lunch to grab their pull lists and some of them would ask for backboards for the comics, so I'd go through the comics and grab the best ones and shove backboards in them all before lunch. And then I'd let them go through the stacks we had on the shelf to see if they wanted another copy, just so they knew we were letting them get the best copies that we had gotten in. BTW, some of these dudes would pick up 10-15 issues a week. We had a couple guys who lived out in the sticks - these were the days before internet ordering was a thing - who came in once every two weeks or once a month who'd basically be picking up a half comic storage box a month.

Anyway, I'd say that handling them as well as we did, only 30-50% of any stack we put out on the shelves were what could be considered 9.5+ near mint/mint quality grade comics. And I don't know of anybody who could have done it better than us, except maybe some hypothetical alpha neckbeard who wears antiquing gloves while bagging comics.

And if your comic book shop put them on the shelves unbagged, then you weren't really going to a serious comic book shop. Nothing anyone ever bought from a shop like that is worth much money.

Every once in a while, we'd get in a special signed comic or something and those would arrive from the distributor already packaged. That's pretty much the only way to guarantee mint or gem mint quality comics - certified in the package at production, shipped protected. Otherwise, mint/gem mint is about as rare as unicorn farts. Shit doesn't exist.

Wait, you guys put backs and boards on all your shelf comics???


Most comic book stores don't do that. The shop I go too is one of the best in NJ, they do a ton of business with collectibles as well. Their books are never in backs and boards on the shelf. Only the back issues.

They have so many on their shelves it'd be impossible to board all them.


Also I have dead pools 1st appearance as well, new mutants 98. Not in great condition but when certain characters are trending you can get more for an issue than you normally would get.

 

[odog]

@Doughbelly

Just out of curiosity, I decided to grab one small box tonight of my old comics and see what was in there. Second thing I see

No bag, no back. Ugh, sigh. I didn't even know I owned a first printing which it seems to be. Probably should have protected it better. Couple of obvious flaws. One on the binding in that picture and then these....

Anyways, I'm not asking for you to waste time on an analysis based on these photos. I was just excited to find the comic, then saddened it wasn't protected, and I just wanted to test out the camera on my shitty phone to see how much detail it could pick up. Turns out not a lot, oddly enough.

 

[Doughbelly]

Wait, you guys put backs and boards on all your shelf comics???

Most comic book stores don't do that. The shop I go too is one of the best in NJ, they do a ton of business with collectibles as well. Their books are never in backs and boards on the shelf. Only the back issues.

They have so many on their shelves it'd be impossible to board all them.

No, only backboards on the guys with pull lists who requested it. Those backboards cost money. They have to pay for that shit. Most people don't care enough to want backboards.

Here is another thing when you mass bag comics - you have to press all the air out before you tape each individual comic. If you don't, little bits of air ends up trapped so when you grab a stack of 20 comics in the middle, you end up bending and creasing them all in the middle.