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Crime Cohen pleads guilty, says he lied

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Savvy move by the special counsel. The Washington post makes a good argument for Trump to deny charges and attempt to stay in office .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ther-trump-faces-consequences-alleged-crimes/


Basic jist- The harsh reality is that any supposed “immunity” a president has from indictment while in office expires when his time is over. For Trump, that could be on January 20, 2021, if the statute of limitations — the deadline by which prosecutors must bring criminal charges — has not yet expired.

Call me a cynic but the above coupled with the fact Democrats, for all their bluster are at least publicly saying that impeachment isn't a foregone conclusion(they seem to be weighing political ramifications, rather than going by the book) Makes me think this will turn into much ado about nothing.

I realize it's been said before (numerous times) , but for there to be noticable change in the US government there must be a strong movement for political reform from the ground up.
 
I realize it's been said before (numerous times) , but for there to be noticable change in the US government there must be a strong movement for political reform from the ground up.
That's not the case for Nixon though.
His complicity in covering up a run of the mill burglary was sufficient, and it didn't matter what the public thought; at some point it looked so bad, the people in power who supported him jumped from a sinking ship.
As the public became aware of the facts, his leverage faded away, despite the fact that he won the election easily.
 
As an aside, included in that feed I found this,
"The Senate just voted to overturn a new Treasury Department regulation that allowed dark money groups to avoid disclosing the identity of donors."

That's the Republican controlled Senate cock-blocking Mnuchin. I say again that they clearly know which way the wind is blowing, as it were.

I hear ya for sure. It's hard shaking a "too big to fail" feel to all of this though. Like would they really allow a Nixon-level situation to shake out the way it did, or better yet be even worse? I dunno. But I do feel that at the same time if he has real, credible dirty information as part of his deal against Trump it would be impossible to turn the other way. This is probably the most intriguing political scandal shaking up in decades, for both all the right and wrong reasons.
I feel like I called it way back before the election that the level of corruption in this White House would be unmatched by any prior but I can't prove it.

So much for the, "taking the word of a criminal and liar" defense.
 
If the system clears me, it can be trusted to do what's right.
If the system finds me liable for my actions, it was rigged against me by haters and losers
 
they could dig up some dirt on obama too if they question like hundreds of people and play them against each other in days long hearings, threatening them with jail time, no problem.
i guess they didn't care back then.
Yup. They called him a community organizer as an insult, then voted in a tax evading, draft dodging reality tv rich dude.

They made fun of his use of a teleprompter and voted in a guy who uses twitter to embarrass himself.
 

Yep. Bears repeating. The statute deals with transactions that are made to influence an election.

The Edwards defense was that "Yes, there were these transactions, but they were not made to influence an election." Citing Edwards as a "precedent" means that your argument is about whether the transactions were made to influence the election. This is not an argument about what kind of transactions are covered (something Dershowitz argued). It is about the purpose of those transactions. The SDNY is accumulating evidence from a variety of sources that the purpose of the transactions was related to the election.
 
As an aside, included in that feed I found this,
"The Senate just voted to overturn a new Treasury Department regulation that allowed dark money groups to avoid disclosing the identity of donors."

That's the Republican controlled Senate cock-blocking Mnuchin. I say again that they clearly know which way the wind is blowing, as it were.


I feel like I called it way back before the election that the level of corruption in this White House would be unmatched by any prior but I can't prove it.

So much for the, "taking the word of a criminal and liar" defense.

Well, we hardly know of the scale of his crimes, so it'd be hard to judge if his administration could be as corrupt as the Reagan admin. Reagan had 8 years, however.
 
Yup. They called him a community organizer as an insult, then voted in a tax evading, draft dodging reality tv rich dude.

They made fun of his use of a teleprompter and voted in a guy who uses twitter to embarrass himself.
Trump can't exactly manage his teleprompter either.
 
He buckled from legal court torture, telling Mullers team what they want to hear so they stop.

“Person turns on person and now has bad things to say about that person” sounds like every high school girl whom friends become their enemies.
 
is Sean hannity going to bring up his attorney is a convicted felon?
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