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Spare you. You wish.

Nothing to do with "the other party". I already explained why Trump is uniquely heinous and you side-stepped it with, "Well I was selfish but I criticize him now so it's all good." lol @ hubris. Your whataboutism bullshit is unbecoming.

Back to your claim... "Please show me who in the actual fuck wants him to do worse (or even the same) instead of better. One fucking example, please." Are you going to dodge this again?


You said, it's just hate for the other party, to wit,

Re: the bold, that doesn't mean his actions have no effect on me or my nation, does it? And you're smart enough to know that so you're plainly being disingenuous.

Whether it's intentional or not, you give the appearance that you support Trump because he gleefully conflates Palestinians with Hamas and criticism of the government of Israel with antisemitism. I could go on and on if that would accomplish anything. But you don't give a shit about anything that doesn't benefit you personally. I question the good faith of anyone who eschews empathy so forcefully.
I’ve been on this site for 17 years and I vote for trump one time while noting I loathe things about him and I’m suddenly a magat and the enemy. It’s kinda funny. And sad.
 
I was thinking about this the other day; I've been around long enough to remember a time when it seemed bigotry and racism were becoming relics of the past. I'm talking about mainstream, not outliers. And then seemingly out of nowhere we changed course; In reality it was decades of programming and propaganda, starting with repealing the fairness doctrine in 87, finally yielding indisputable results and driving a deep wedge right down the middle of the country.
 
lol. No, it appears that you are the one mad. Not me. And again, I live in a constitutional republic. And still do. Despite how you feel about our president.

I am not the one having trouble. You are. I’m comfortable with my vote, and I’m still giving his administration some time before judging completely. I went in KNOWING I wasn’t going to agree with everything he was going to do or stand for.

As for the “significance” of what’s happening, you’ll have to forgive me for playing a wait and see. Because not much has really changed yet. We’ll see how the tariffs thing plays out…..


Because of 1 dude in El Salvador, who may or may not have gang ties? I don’t even know how that story is going to play out. That is NOT “wiping their ass with the constitution”. You are not rational. THIS is a temper tantrum. lol. El Salvador is calling the dude a terrorist and Pam bondi is saying they’ll “facilitate” his return as required by the courts (but that he’s not staying here even if he is returned).

That was the state of Florida, not trump. Not everything bad is due to trump personally making the call.

First, I’m not “maga”, so I don’t really care if “magas were losing their mind”. But yes, the reality is that you didn’t care that the prior administration was sending 29 flights full of immigrants out of the country per week, or if they had sufficient due process.

And again, you’re not going to bully me into feeling bad. Every administration does things that can be criticized. I believe in the strength of our institutions, and trump hasn’t destroyed that, despite the hysteria. Good day sir.
the administration defies the courts, but it's no big deal.

they're doing heinous shit, but i'm not judging yet.

a guy with no criminal record has been sent to a foreign prison without a trial, but it's not a big deal because maybe he'll be released some day.

you can't tell me i'm a shitty person because i support all of this, because really all of this criticism is just hysteria. you just don't like trump.

am i doing this right?
 
I’ve been on this site for 17 years and I vote for trump one time while noting I loathe things about him and I’m suddenly a magat and the enemy. It’s kinda funny. And sad.
You knew what he was and you voted for him anyway out of self-professed selfishness. Now, you cry about being judged for that. Too bad, so sad.
 
the administration defies the courts, but it's no big deal.

they're doing heinous shit, but i'm not judging yet.

a guy with no criminal record has been sent to a foreign prison without a trial, but it's not a big deal because maybe he'll be released some day.

you can't tell me i'm a shitty person because i support all of this, because really all of this criticism is just hysteria. you just don't like trump.

am i doing this right?
My vote for what i considered 1 out of 2 bad options doesn’t mean I support everything the administration goes on to do. I loathe things about the man. But lol at trying to suggest everyone who voted for trump or against Harris is a shitty person. Must feel good to walk around knowing you hate half the people around you. Maybe more depending on where you live and work.

And I don’t know if it’s a big deal because I don’t know if he has ties to ms-13. We do know his wife filed for a protective order against him, the president of El Salvador considers him a terrorist and the AG says he’s not welcome to stay here.

Heinous shit!
 
My vote for what i considered 1 out of 2 bad options doesn’t mean I support everything the administration goes on to do. I loathe things about the man. But lol at trying to suggest everyone who voted for trump or against Harris is a shitty person. Must feel good to walk around knowing you hate half the people around you. Maybe more depending on where you live and work.

And I don’t know if it’s a big deal because I don’t know if he has ties to ms-13. We do know his wife filed for a protective order against him, the president of El Salvador considers him a terrorist and the AG says he’s not welcome to stay here.

Heinous shit!
lol @ half.

Of eligible voters, Trump got 32% of the vote. And funny how you keep using that word hate as though if you repeat it often enough you can convince yourself, and in so doing use it as an excuse to make a victim of yourself. Get bent.
 
lol @ half.

Of eligible voters, Trump got 32% of the vote. And funny how you keep using that word hate as though if you repeat it often enough you can convince yourself, and in so doing use it as an excuse to make a victim of yourself. Get bent.
So of the non-voters you think they are all anti-trump?

And why are you now speaking for him? He has made it clear that he would literally end relationships with people who voted for trump. You think that’s just indifference?

We’ve been on the same side of many a discussion on here Andy. And I’ve continued to show you respect. But hey, you do you. Be mad. I guess i’m the enemy.
 
My vote for what i considered 1 out of 2 bad options doesn’t mean I support everything the administration goes on to do. I loathe things about the man. But lol at trying to suggest everyone who voted for trump or against Harris is a shitty person. Must feel good to walk around knowing you hate half the people around you. Maybe more depending on where you live and work.
lol at being butthurt that people don't like you because of your political views, when you're fine with suspending due process to please the orange buffoon.

and yeah, i feel just fine knowing i hate fascists. i hate the "love for the crowd" roman salute people, too.

And I don’t know if it’s a big deal because I don’t know if he has ties to ms-13. We do know his wife filed for a protective order against him, the president of El Salvador considers him a terrorist and the AG says he’s not welcome to stay here.

Heinous shit!
you posted "he may or may not be a terrorist" about him about 15 times in this thread, as if it's some kind of gotcha. you may or may not be a serial child rapist. i guess we should just stick you in guantanamo. i mean, why would anyone care, it's just you, one guy, who may or may not be the zodiac killer.

what we actually know is that he was in the US legally. we know he has no criminal record. and we know the justice department lawyer said in court that he should not have been deported, but that lawyer was then fired for it. we also know the supreme court agrees that he should not have been deported.

but i guess courts don't matter if pam bondi says you're a gang member?

to be honest, i'm done trying to explain why human rights violations and the dismantling of the judicial branch is bad to the guy who may or may not drink his own jizz.
 
lol at being butthurt that people don't like you because of your political views, when you're fine with suspending due process to please the orange buffoon.

and yeah, i feel just fine knowing i hate fascists. i hate the "love for the crowd" roman salute people, too.


you posted "he may or may not be a terrorist" about him about 15 times in this thread, as if it's some kind of gotcha. you may or may not be a serial child rapist. i guess we should just stick you in guantanamo. i mean, why would anyone care, it's just you, one guy, who may or may not be the zodiac killer.

what we actually know is that he was in the US legally. we know he has no criminal record. and we know the justice department lawyer said in court that he should not have been deported, but that lawyer was then fired for it. we also know the supreme court agrees that he should not have been deported.

but i guess courts don't matter if pam bondi says you're a gang member?

to be honest, i'm done trying to explain why human rights violations and the dismantling of the judicial branch is bad to the guy who may or may not drink his own jizz.
Maybe bondi knows more than you know?

I’m not a fascist. I’m not a fan of musk. But you hate because I voted differently than you did. You hate me. You hate a lot of your neighbors. YOU carry that around. I don’t. Good day sir.
 
Again, spare me the angry outbursts Andy. The hubris of people like you who want to just tar anyone who voted for the other party. In a country you don’t even live in and are not a citizen.
and yet he can spot a selfish person like you who voted in a villain for their own gain and he can spot simple right and wrong from a distance that you cannot see up close.

this kind of choice leaves a mark man.
 
I’ve been on this site for 17 years and I vote for trump one time while noting I loathe things about him and I’m suddenly a magat and the enemy. It’s kinda funny. And sad.
yeah man. all you did is vote in a career criminal, rapist, con man, liar, swindler and sower of hatred chaos and division who is also a fascist all for your own personal gain. why is everyone being so hard on you?

the fact that you minimize this makes you appear to be a worse person, not better, and that is lost on you. that's a serious problem.
 
yeah man. all you did is vote in a career criminal, rapist, con man, liar, swindler and sower of hatred chaos and division who is also a fascist all for your own personal gain. why is everyone being so hard on you?

the fact that you minimize this makes you appear to be a worse person, not better, and that is lost on you. that's a serious problem.
I read your posts and I feel like im reading posts from Jesus himself.

Again, you are an angry, bitter, fraud.
 
I read your posts and I feel like im reading posts from Jesus himself.

Again, you are an angry, bitter, fraud.
I'm not the least bit bitter or angry towards you. You just don't want to hear the truth about what you have done. It's classic narcissist behavior. You make choices that are destructive to the whole world and then you are upset because someone points it out and thinks it matters.

One of these is worse than the other.
 
I'm not the least bit bitter or angry towards you. You just don't want to hear the truth about what you have done. It's classic narcissist behavior. You make choices that are destructive to the whole world and then you are upset because someone points it out and thinks it matters.

One of these is worse than the other.
I’m not a registered republican. I didn’t vote in their primary. There were 2 choices for president. YOUR party ran not just 1, but 2 unelectable candidates, with a walking meme as VP. 77 million of your fellow American’s chose to vote AGAINST your candidate and your party. If you want to just pretend it’s because 77 million of your neighbors are amoral bad people, feel free. It would be on brand for you of course. But I’m comfortable in my skin and my choices. And I have confidence in our institutions. The left takes no responsibility for their failure.
 
I’m not a registered republican. I didn’t vote in their primary. There were 2 choices for president. YOUR party ran not just 1, but 2 unelectable candidates, with a walking meme as VP. 77 million of your fellow American’s chose to vote AGAINST your candidate and your party. If you want to just pretend it’s because 77 million of your neighbors are amoral bad people, feel free. It would be on brand for you of course. But I’m comfortable in my skin and my choices. And I have confidence in our institutions. The left takes no responsibility for their failure.
It's bad enough you can think that it was okay to vote for Trump before this election. It's bad enough that you were that morally blind and bankrupt but after he's been elected? after what this last two months has been like. Give me a break man.
 
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