Elections Clinton vs. Trump Polls thread, v2

Who wins Florida on election day?


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He's "open to" it in the same way he's "open to" the idea that Hilary is an assassin. Just enough to backtrack when he's called on it.

I'm sorry my observation of trolling and desire to rid it from discussions makes me a douche to you.
Haters gonna hate.

 
You should read the threads you're in.



He's "open to" it in the same way he's "open to" the idea that Hilary is an assassin. Just enough to backtrack when he's called on it.

I'm sorry my observation of trolling and desire to rid it from discussions makes me a douche to you.
It doesn't, and I apologize for calling you a douche. I've seen rip around here for a while and I still don't think he's a flat earther. He did leave it pretty open ended tho and the critcism you gave em was fair. Anywho, I was wrong. my bad
 
Haters gonna hate.



If anyone has doubts on who's actually here to discuss issues and who's just here to troll, look at this post and who liked it.

Weird TCK. I didn't see you in this thread until then....huh.

It doesn't, and I apologize for calling you a douche. I've seen rip around here for a while and I still don't think he's a flat earther. He did leave it pretty open ended tho and the critcism you gave em was fair. Anywho, I was wrong. my bad

No problem, I've been around sherdog for a while, there's a lot of informed people here who truly wanna discuss and debate, on every side, and to see it so often stifled by attention-starved trolls is annoying.

When it's gotten to the point that 4 outta 5 threads remotely concerning the topics they prey on(religion, race, conspiracy theory) devolve into offtopic bickering,, I can't just ignore it. Better to point it out until noone takes them seriously.
 
If anyone has doubts on who's actually here to discuss issues and who's just here to troll, look at this post and who liked it.

Weird TCK. I didn't see you in this thread until then....huh.

The reason I liked his post was because you seemed to be trying to throw shade his way for shade throwing sake. Rip responded appropriately imo.
 
You question the methodology of the polling systems but then you present the most subjective and unscientific "evidence" to your claim. Bravo

Asses in seats are a pretty tangible marker of popularity, I'd say.
 
Trump side-stepped every one of those corporate-bought politician goons who have been playing the game for years, thinking they were next, simply because they did and said all the right things, or simply because birthright (Jeb, lol).

Trump, whatever you may think of him, is his own, un-bought kind of goon. No way an outsider gets into office when we are this balls-deep into the corporate-run government era.

Putting aside the empty platitudes, Trump is his own worst enemy. Don't try to deny that while Hilary was was reacting to Bernie, Trump was telling everyone to F off. He is a thin skin baby who has pushed everyone away. He does not need to be bought, he is all that is wrong with system personified.
 
She supported it, she supported TPP, she voted for 6 trade deals and supported 2 others that she didn't vote for.


Hilary supports trade deals, I support trade deals. Trump makes as much money as he can from trade deals and immigration policies he says he opposes. I see zero evidence he ever did anything to minimize the impact of policies he opposes. Not saying you deny this at all, but in any event, fuck trump.
 
Asses in seats are a pretty tangible marker of popularity, I'd say.
I'd say that's exactly what Ron Paul supporters tried to convince us mattered more than polls 4 years ago.
 
Hilary supports trade deals, I support trade deals. Trump makes as much money as he can from trade deals and immigration policies he says he opposes. I see zero evidence he ever did anything to minimize the impact of policies he opposes. Not saying you deny this at all, but in any event, fuck trump.

But Hillary says she doesn't support TPP and admits NAFTA was a mistake (but she supported it).
And I don't deny that he didn't do anything to minimize it, but neither did Clinton, and as a business man he has a responsibility to his investors.

The frustrating aspect about every argument this election cycle, and why I love chiming in on the panicking Clinton support threads, is the double standards that are applied over and over again. And not just by sherdoggers, DC and the media are rotten with hypocrisy, too. (not accusing you of this, btw).

Clinton can raise money from SuperPacs and people believe her when she says she opposes Citizens United.
Clinton supports nearly every trade deal she gets a whiff of, including TPP, but people choose to believe her when she says she opposes TPP.
Trump claims to want to make "America Great Again" and address our trade agreements, but his clothing line is manufactured overseas (95% of America's clothing industry is made overseas) and its somehow another nail in the coffin.

And those are just a few examples. This same b.s. goes on in stories about Russia, the police vs. BLM, foreign policy, etc, etc.

If people started looking at this a less of a witch hunt and more as a problem with how our country operates, there wouldn't be a Trump or a Clinton to fight about. We'd have real candidates talking about real issues. This charade, whether it results in Trump or Clinton getting elected, is going to lead to greater tension over the next 4 years because of the dishonest and condescending discourse coming from DC and the MSM into our living rooms not only feeds into it, it allows real problems to fester.
 
But Hillary says she doesn't support TPP and admits NAFTA was a mistake (but she supported it).
And I don't deny that he didn't do anything to minimize it, but neither did Clinton, and as a business man he has a responsibility to his investors.

The frustrating aspect about every argument this election cycle, and why I love chiming in on the panicking Clinton support threads, is the double standards that are applied over and over again. And not just by sherdoggers, DC and the media are rotten with hypocrisy, too. (not accusing you of this, btw).

Clinton can raise money from SuperPacs and people believe her when she says she opposes Citizens United.
Clinton supports nearly every trade deal she gets a whiff of, including TPP, but people choose to believe her when she says she opposes TPP.
Trump claims to want to make "America Great Again" and address our trade agreements, but his clothing line is manufactured overseas (95% of America's clothing industry is made overseas) and its somehow another nail in the coffin.

And those are just a few examples. This same b.s. goes on in stories about Russia, the police vs. BLM, foreign policy, etc, etc.

If people started looking at this a less of a witch hunt and more as a problem with how our country operates, there wouldn't be a Trump or a Clinton to fight about. We'd have real candidates talking about real issues. This charade, whether it results in Trump or Clinton getting elected, is going to lead to greater tension over the next 4 years because of the dishonest and condescending discourse coming from DC and the MSM into our living rooms not only feeds into it, it allows real problems to fester.

You are just once again floating your absurd conspiracy theories.
 
I'd say that's exactly what Ron Paul supporters tried to convince us mattered more than polls 4 years ago.

Ron Paul is no Trump though; like Bernie, his supporters will likely be too stoned to actually show up to vote. Not necessarily so for Trump supporters.

I think the "monster vote" will be a real thing this election.

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/08/08/the-monster-vote/

The “Monster Vote”

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"The Conservative Treehouse posted several articles that caught my attention about “The Monster Vote”. This the roughly 100 million people in the US eligible to vote who don’t vote. His claim is that these traditional non-voters are voting for Trump.

And his evidence from primary turnout matched his predictions very well, so much that it inspired me to do my own analysis and try to come up with what I think the “Monster Vote” could be."
 
The reason I liked his post was because you seemed to be trying to throw shade his way for shade throwing sake. Rip responded appropriately imo.

Oh so you didn't read the thread either. Calling out trolls isn't throwing shade, but you know that as well as I do.

It's ok, folks with eyes know why that like was your first appearance in the thread.
 
Now you're just being silly.

Again: too much war room homey

I'm cool with us disagreeing on some stuff, even if you aren't. You can still come over my place and clink drinks with me anytime.

The issue is that you don't know the terrain. If one person says 2+2=4, and the other says that 2+2=potato, and you come in and say, "can't we all agree that 2+2=yam?" you still come off as a nut.
 
Yeah, it's funny how quickly someone else bent you over about Hillary. Here is the guy who gave over $7 million to Hillary's campaign prior to the primaries (while hedging with $200k donated to Kasich):

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Net worth? $24.9bn. Most famous for? Black Wednesday i.e. "Breaking the Bank of England."

I know that Soros is a boogeyman in the nutter community, but most people recognize him as a genius and a great humanitarian.
 
The issue is that you don't know the terrain. If one person says 2+2=4, and the other says that 2+2=potato, and you come in and say, "can't we all agree that 2+2=yam?" you still come off as a nut.

Come off that high horse!

Horses aren't safe to ride when they're high.
 
I know that Soros is a boogeyman in the nutter community, but most people recognize him as a genius and a great humanitarian.

He has some questionable decisions. If it's true he is trying to flood Europe with Muslims then that deserves criticism.

Still though I admire him for his financial genius.
 
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